Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?

August 23, 2008

We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing.

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Rhoda Mead

oleander soup

Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM

wonderful suggestions

A friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. RhodaI'm having

August 25, 2008

Hi Phil. I must have missed a post because I don't know what LDN is? Something anyone can buy, or only through a doctor?

Samala,

Renee

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We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very Aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing.

August 25, 2008

Good afternoon what is LDN. My wife has aggresive melanoma and I am looking at all options THanksJohn Ashby,--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Phillip Zachary <phil wrote:Phillip Zachary <phil Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soup Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 10:02 AM

We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing.

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Rhoda Mead

oleander soup

Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM

wonderful suggestions

A friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. RhodaI'm having

August 25, 2008

I think he is referring to LDN - Low Dose Naltrexone

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of john ashbyMonday, August 25, 2008 9:50 AMoleander soup Subject: Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?

Good afternoon what is LDN. My wife has aggresive melanoma and I am looking at all options THanks

John Ashby,--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote:

Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soup Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 10:02 AM

We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing.

-

Rhoda Mead

oleander soup

Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM

wonderful suggestions

A friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. RhodaI'm having

August 25, 2008

LDN is "low dose naltrexone". Naltrexone is an opiate blocking drug used to treat addiction. For that purpose it is given in amounts around 50 mgs. For cancer and autoimmune disorders it can be given in doses of 4.5 mgs or less. This done once a night creates a temporary opiate blockade for a few hours. This is followed by a rebound increase in endorphins and endorphin receptor sites on cells, including cancer cells. The increase in endorphins has a boosting effect on the immune system. One of the endorphins (metenkephalin) can attach to cancer cells and lock many of them in an early stage of the cell cycle. This keeps some of them from going into mitosis, which is when cells divide. The cancer inhibiting effect of LDN is

experienced, to some degree by about 60% of those taking the drug. A smaller percentage, perhaps 30%, experience gradual die-off of cancer cells, some to remission.Mikejohn ashby <jashby_joshenoleander soup Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:50:04 AMRe: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?Good afternoon what is LDN. My wife has aggresive melanoma and I am looking at all options THanksJohn Ashby,--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote:Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupSaturday, August 23, 2008, 10:02 AM We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing.- Rhoda Mead oleander soup Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM wonderful suggestionsA friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. RhodaI'm having

August 25, 2008

Thanks, I appreciate the infoJohn Ashby, --- On Mon, 8/25/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote:Mike Golden <goldenmike86Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soup Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:18 PM

LDN is "low dose naltrexone". Naltrexone is an opiate blocking drug used to treat addiction. For that purpose it is given in amounts around 50 mgs. For cancer and autoimmune disorders it can be given in doses of 4.5 mgs or less. This done once a night creates a temporary opiate blockade for a few hours. This is followed by a rebound increase in endorphins and endorphin receptor sites on cells, including cancer cells. The increase in endorphins has a boosting effect on the immune system. One of the endorphins (metenkephalin) can attach to cancer cells and lock many of them in an early stage of the cell cycle. This keeps some of them from going into mitosis, which is when cells divide. The cancer inhibiting effect of LDN is

experienced, to some degree by about 60% of those taking the drug. A smaller percentage, perhaps 30%, experience gradual die-off of cancer cells, some to remission.Mikejohn ashby <jashby_joshen@ >oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008 11:50:04 AMRe: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?Good afternoon what is LDN. My wife has aggresive melanoma

and I am looking at all options THanksJohn Ashby,--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote:Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupSaturday, August 23, 2008, 10:02 AM We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing.- Rhoda Mead oleander soup Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM wonderful suggestionsA friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. RhodaI'm having

August 25, 2008

Mike:

I think that the LDN is good and It gave me a better sleeping patern when I first started it seven months ago. I still take it every night (4.5 mgs) but have not seen any decrease or slowing of my tumors growth.Duke

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, john ashby <jashby_joshen wrote:

john ashby <jashby_joshenRe: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soup Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:20 PM

Thanks, I appreciate the info

John Ashby,

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008, 2:18 PM

LDN is "low dose naltrexone". Naltrexone is an opiate blocking drug used to treat addiction. For that purpose it is given in amounts around 50 mgs. For cancer and autoimmune disorders it can be given in doses of 4.5 mgs or less. This done once a night creates a temporary opiate blockade for a few hours. This is followed by a rebound increase in endorphins and endorphin receptor sites on cells, including cancer cells. The increase in endorphins has a boosting effect on the immune system. One of the endorphins (metenkephalin) can attach to cancer cells and lock many of them in an early stage of the cell cycle. This keeps some of them from going into mitosis, which is when cells divide. The cancer inhibiting effect of LDN is experienced, to some degree by about 60% of those taking the drug. A smaller percentage, perhaps 30%, experience gradual die-off of cancer cells, some to

remission.Mike

john ashby <jashby_joshen@ >oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008 11:50:04 AMRe: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?

Good afternoon what is LDN. My wife has aggresive melanoma and I am looking at all options THanks

John Ashby,--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote:

Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupSaturday, August 23, 2008, 10:02 AM

We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing.

-

Rhoda Mead

oleander soup

Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM

wonderful suggestions

A friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to

answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. RhodaI'm having

August 25, 2008

I suspect that half the people that use it don't detect much improvement. Which is why I would never recommend it as a stand alone therapy.MikeMikeDuke Stone <dukesdealsoleander soup Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:19:20 PMRe: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?

Mike:

I think that the LDN is good and It gave me a better sleeping patern when I first started it seven months ago. I still take it every night (4.5 mgs) but have not seen any decrease or slowing of my tumors growth.Duke

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, john ashby <jashby_joshen@ > wrote:

john ashby <jashby_joshen@ >Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008, 1:20 PM

Thanks, I appreciate the info

John Ashby,

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ > wrote:

Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >Re: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008, 2:18 PM

LDN is "low dose naltrexone". Naltrexone is an opiate blocking drug used to treat addiction. For that purpose it is given in amounts around 50 mgs. For cancer and autoimmune disorders it can be given in doses of 4.5 mgs or less. This done once a night creates a temporary opiate blockade for a few hours. This is followed by a rebound increase in endorphins and endorphin receptor sites on cells, including cancer cells. The increase in endorphins has a boosting effect on the immune system. One of the endorphins (metenkephalin) can attach to cancer cells and lock many of them in an early stage of the cell cycle. This keeps some of them from going into mitosis, which is when cells divide. The cancer inhibiting effect of LDN is experienced, to some degree by about 60% of those taking the drug. A smaller percentage, perhaps 30%, experience gradual die-off of cancer cells, some to

remission.Mike

john ashby <jashby_joshen@ >oleander soupMonday, August 25, 2008 11:50:04 AMRe: Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?

Good afternoon what is LDN. My wife has aggresive melanoma and I am looking at all options THanks

John Ashby,--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> wrote:

Phillip Zachary <phil (AT) philzachary (DOT) com> Rhoda: have you seen this re LDN?oleander soupSaturday, August 23, 2008, 10:02 AM

We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very aggressive. His tumor was very large on his face. After only 8 weeks on LDN and only two weeks with the high dose of 4.5 mg his tumor has shrunk down to nothing. He was a stage 4 and in only 8 weeks it is gone. We were shocked to see it shrink so fast. I believe LDN was working even when he was on the lower doses of 1.5 mg for the first three weeks. LDN is amazing.

-

Rhoda Mead

oleander soup

Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:01 AM

wonderful suggestions

A friend is making some MMS for me this week. I started FIR saunas first, but they are slow, so I started zeolite to remove heavy metals. If anyone gets info on impurities in the powder, please let me know; the price difference is startling!! Mexican clinics are a rip-off, as far as I'm concerned, When I called Oasis of Hope, I was told they could put me in remission within three weeks. When I got there, they said, Oops, not your type of cancer. So I asked around; turns out they say the same to everyone. Pleasant atmosphere, great food, poor results, many additional heavy expenses! Then they implanted an ozone receiver in my abdomen, and suggested that I order an ozone generator from Canada. Costly to have the implant. I got the generator, and contacted the makers who said not to use the implant unless it was designed for ozone specifically, as it could disintegrate within the body. Needless to say. Oasis refused to

answer questions about their implant. I went with rectal ozone for a year. I could see my venous blood slowly becoming red, rather than purple. Alas, the oxygen didn't enter the cancer cells or tumor, and I didn't go into remission. Sold the ozone generator to someone on this list, in fact. The surgery to have that dangerous implant removed probably liberated cancer cells as well. So I have a very poor opinion of Mexican clinics. I no longer have faith nor $$, but there are some interesting clinics in Germany that can do hyperthermia deeper into the body than ever. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find results, for those who are better-heeled and as desperate as me. I do have the names of the German clinics for anyone who wants to do the research. RhodaI'm having

August 26, 2008

Renee,

This is a curious thing. It appeared as though the post came from me

but it didn't. There's at least one other example of the same thing.

I Googled LDN and learned a lot about it, but it wasn't my

post......Sorry.

Phil

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oleander soup , " Gaiacita " <gaiacita wrote:

>

> Hi Phil. I must have missed a post because I don't know what LDN is?

> Something anyone can buy, or only through a doctor?

>

> Samala,

> Renee

>

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>

> We started my dad on LDN alone without any surgery or chemo because he

> is 93 years old. His cancer is Merkel Cell Carcinoma which is very

August 26, 2008

John,

As I explained to Renee, I didn't send the post re LDN. I suggest you Google LDN and study the issue from there. Sorry!

Phil

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