Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I hope for your friends sake she is now following a very healthy diet and lifestyle and taking measures to rebuild her immune system. Otherwise, she has had the way paved for the return of cancer with an immune system that is even more impaired than when she got cancer before. Surgery removes the symptoms of cancer and buys time - though it often also helps spread the cancer. Chemo poisons the entire body indiscriminately in the attempt to destroy the cancer without killing the patient. More often than not, patients die from the effects of their chemo before they do their cancer. The country is littered with graveyards of those who died a premature death because they thought mainstream medicine had cured their cancers when all it really did was give them a false sense of security and an early death. That would likely not be the case nearly as often if people took oleander before, during and after chemo. Even then, I normally do not like chemo at all. Harsh words, but true. oleander soup , Nonie <nmsammy wrote: > > > Hi Rhoda, > > Sorry you are going thru this. > > When my friend had ovarian cancer, she had lots of stomach problems..she could barely eat, acid reflux, nausea, gall bladder attack that landed her in er. This was before she knew she had a very large tumor pushing her organs all out of place. She had the tumor removed and they did a hysterectomy. She felt 100 times better after the tumor was removed. > > She changed her diet and did opt to do chemo. She is doing well now. She had the op last Jan. > > Best to you. > Nonie > I didn't think to ask today, whether the ovarian cancer in my abdomen is the cause of my 'digestive' symptoms, but will ask tomorrow.This far, it hasn't spread to my liver, brain, lungs, etc. Right now, I feel like I'm at the end of my rope. All suggestions, except for me to pray, will be greatly appreciated and carefully considered. Rhoda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Well, Tony, Spreading the cancer is why my friend did the chemo. The tumor burst when the idiot removed it and that really scared my friend. After more than 30 years of friendship and at least 25 of that both of us on a holistic path, I was shocked. I thought she would follow the orangic food, supplements and have nothing more to do with the allopaths. But, her partner died of bone cancer after going to Hulda Clark's "clinic" in Mexico and I think my friend really didn't know what to do. I really believe, though, as fast as the cancer was growing, she would have died without removing it. And she is still eating well, and going to start bike riding soon in the beautiful Pacific Northwest. I was very worried about her for awhile and actually, I had to stop talking to her for a couple of months, as I could not keep supporting her choices, even though, she has every right to make them. I agree with you and told her about the Oleander, but, she has her own business and is not making much money right now and that is influencing a lot of her decisions. She also wants a dr to tell her what to take or do...not an md, per say..a good chiro or naturepath, but, not me.Nonie> > I hope for your friends sake she is now following a very healthy diet> and lifestyle and taking measures to rebuild her immune system. > Otherwise, she has had the way paved for the return of cancer with an> immune system that is even more impaired than when she got cancer before.> > Surgery removes the symptoms of cancer and buys time - though it often> also helps spread the cancer. Chemo poisons the entire body> indiscriminately in the attempt to destroy the cancer without killing> the patient. More often than not, patients die from the effects of> their chemo before they do their cancer.> > The country is littered with graveyards of those who died a premature> death because they thought mainstream medicine had cured their cancers> when all it really did was give them a false sense of security and an> early death.> > That would likely not be the case nearly as often if people took> oleander before, during and after chemo. Even then, I normally do not> like chemo at all.> > Harsh words, but true.> > Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Too many of those Mexican clinics are all about money and very little about healing. I am afraid that I have to include both the Clark and Gerson clinics in that description. The quality of care, food and knowledge is horrendous and the prices are outrageous. When you can make your own oleander for pennies or buy it for as little as $45 for a one month supply (or even a 5 month supply when you are just taking it for prevention or maintenance), cost should be no object. And for people who are desperately poor but do not trust a home remedy or even a herbal supplement, I have been known to pull a few strings to get them the patented medicine version. When it comes to cancer, sometimes it comes down to a matter of what you cannot afford - and that is needlessly letting cancer win the battle. Sometimes surgery may be needed when you have a very aggressive cancer and/or a tumor that is causing life threatening conditions. But once you have the surgery, I believe nature is usually a far better option to get rid of any remaining cancer, build the immune system and keep cancer at bay. oleander soup , Nonie <nmsammy wrote: > > > Well, Tony, > > Spreading the cancer is why my friend did the chemo. The tumor burst when the idiot removed it and that really scared my friend. After more than 30 years of friendship and at least 25 of that both of us on a holistic path, I was shocked. I thought she would follow the orangic food, supplements and have nothing more to do with the allopaths. But, her partner died of bone cancer after going to Hulda Clark's " clinic " in Mexico and I think my friend really didn't know what to do. > > I really believe, though, as fast as the cancer was growing, she would have died without removing it. > > And she is still eating well, and going to start bike riding soon in the beautiful Pacific Northwest. I was very worried about her for awhile and actually, I had to stop talking to her for a couple of months, as I could not keep supporting her choices, even though, she has every right to make them. > I agree with you and told her about the Oleander, but, she has her own business and is not making much money right now and that is influencing a lot of her decisions. > > She also wants a dr to tell her what to take or do...not an md, per say..a good chiro or naturepath, but, not me.Nonie> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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