Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Dear Melly, Jellos are laden with many chemicals, dyes, artificial everything, but probably not mat cow disease in this country. As far as I know, it has been eradicated at great expense. Gelatin is very good for the hair, nails, etc. But not Jello, Rhoda I hope realize that jellos come from bone marrows and tendons of BEEF which can be laced with mad cow disease. Poor kids who are fed jellos as par of their lunch box. I see Moms in supermarkets loading their carts with so much of this stuff. Do they not know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Hello Rhoda, There is another additive in it I would want to avoid - aluminium salts as a free flow agent. If you could get it feom a reputable organic grass pasture-fed source, it would be better than from the usual antibiotic & hormone laden feed-lots. Maracuja Rhoda Mead <hummingbird541oleander soup Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:15:16 AM mad cow disease? Dear Melly, Jellos are laden with many chemicals, dyes, artificial everything, but probably not mat cow disease in this country. As far as I know, it has been eradicated at great expense. Gelatin is very good for the hair, nails, etc. But not Jello, RhodaI hope realize that jellos come from bone marrows and tendons of BEEF which can be laced with mad cow disease. Poor kids who are fed jellos as par of their lunch box. I see Moms in supermarkets loading their carts with so much of this stuff. Do they not know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Dear Rhoda, If you read about mad cow at rense.com you will know that it is still around. People who die of it are given death certificates stating they died of alzheimers...It is The Establishment that says it is gone to protect the beef industry. Remember the film of those cows being beaten and " craned " recently? Those are wasting disease obviously. And the bulk of those kind went to school cafeterias!!! Mad cow manifests years after it is acquired. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Anyone worried about Mad cow disease should be taking DMSO as a precaution everyday... unfortunantly for the rest of their lives. It stops prions from replicating and the plaques from forming. oleander soup , melly banagale <tita_mel wrote: > > Dear Rhoda, > > If you read about mad cow at rense.com you will know that it is still around. People who die of it are given death certificates stating they died of alzheimers...It is The Establishment that says it is gone to protect the beef industry. Remember the film of those cows being beaten and " craned " recently? Those are wasting disease obviously. And the bulk of those kind went to school cafeterias!!! Mad cow manifests years after it is acquired. > > Melly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I wonder if colloidal silver might not do the same thing? If DMSO is effective, would it not work after you began showing the signs of mad cow? How often should one have to take it? And even if still around, are not the odds of getting it a bit longer than winning the lottery? Maybe a much better and healthier plan would be to avoid commercial hamburger and other processed beef. oleander soup , " maverick911011 " <maverick911011 wrote: > > Anyone worried about Mad cow disease should be taking DMSO as a > precaution everyday... unfortunantly for the rest of their lives. It > stops prions from replicating and the plaques from forming. > > oleander soup , melly banagale <tita_mel@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Rhoda, > > > > If you read about mad cow at rense.com you will know that it is > still around. People who die of it are given death certificates > stating they died of alzheimers...It is The Establishment that says it > is gone to protect the beef industry. Remember the film of those cows > being beaten and " craned " recently? Those are wasting disease > obviously. And the bulk of those kind went to school cafeterias!!! > Mad cow manifests years after it is acquired. > > > > Melly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Indeed, mad cow is still very rare. Only about a 140 cases have been documented worldwide... mostly in England. The three people who contracted it thus far in the USA, were originally from the UK and only moved here recently. CJD, the more " common " human form of prion, is still a 1 in a million shot, with most people contracting it after the age of sixty. The odds of someone getting sCJD or (spontaneous)CJD below 30 years of age, is around 3 in a billion, incredibly low. From what I have read about mad cow and cjd, that the isoform of PrPc is known to be resistent to most chemicals and other methods of disruption. The major problem is that the body doesn't recognize the prions as defective and the chaperones that are supposed to dispose of them don't. So they continue to multiply(by a yet unknown method), by converting other normal PrPC proteins to the PrPSc Isoform. Eventually they overwhelm the cell and it dies releasing more prions to continue the destruction. There are only a few therapies that even do anything, one is DMSO which is probably the least toxic, it only inactivates the prions, it doesn't destroy them. Pentosan polysulphate which is typically used for bladder infections, protects the cells from death, but only slows the process, doesn't stop it. And a few other compounds have been shown to slow the process, but not stop it. Interestingly a dye called Congo Red, is used to stain and esscentially deactivate prions, however it is toxic and would likely kill whoever used it. There is a derivative(s) of the compound that called WS740 that was recently developed, it actually cures cells of the scrapie prion, and removes infectivity without the side effects of normal Congo Red. This development was reported late last year, so I doubt many people know about it, but it offers a possible chance of a permanent solution. http://jvi.asm.org/cgi/content/full/81/19/10729 Give the medical industries long history of mess ups I doubt we will see this anytime soon. In regards to Collodial silver I haven't heard anything in regards to it effecting prions, it might, but then again how would we know. The silver molecules would have to bond directly with the prions for it to have any effect. oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > I wonder if colloidal silver might not do the same thing? If DMSO is > effective, would it not work after you began showing the signs of mad > cow? How often should one have to take it? And even if still around, > are not the odds of getting it a bit longer than winning the lottery? > > Maybe a much better and healthier plan would be to avoid commercial > hamburger and other processed beef. > > > > > oleander soup , " maverick911011 " > <maverick911011@> wrote: > > > > Anyone worried about Mad cow disease should be taking DMSO as a > > precaution everyday... unfortunantly for the rest of their lives. It > > stops prions from replicating and the plaques from forming. > > > > oleander soup , melly banagale <tita_mel@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rhoda, > > > > > > If you read about mad cow at rense.com you will know that it is > > still around. People who die of it are given death certificates > > stating they died of alzheimers...It is The Establishment that says it > > is gone to protect the beef industry. Remember the film of those cows > > being beaten and " craned " recently? Those are wasting disease > > obviously. And the bulk of those kind went to school cafeterias!!! > > Mad cow manifests years after it is acquired. > > > > > > Melly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Just an aside, kosher slaughtered meat must undergo rigorous inspection of the animal before slaughter. The carcass can be rejected for 72 different anomalies’ and if an animal is known to have something that it will die from within one year the carcass is automatically rejected. If there are oddly shaped or size problems with the organs the carcass is rejected. As well, the one swift cut to the carotid artery and esophagus is a human way for the animal passes out quickly and painlessly. The blood is poured completely out to the ground and then the carcass is slated to draw out the rest of the blood. The salting prevents anything from feeding of the traces of blood remaining. This is not so with pole axed and electrocuted commercial meat. The blood coagulates in the veins and bacteria fungi and parasites can feed off the left over blood as food. The purple standards of meat have been reduced to cutting out areas of tumors, air saculitits, the instructions are to cut out affected portions and pass the mat onto consumers. Yes, there is an alternative. However, Peta has attacked the largest plant with immigration issues so the main suppliers are down. You can sometimes find it in grocery stores under the name Meal Mart in the frozen section. The chicken is Empire Kosher. There is a U with a circle around if it is kosher. It is called a hecture. See this article on meat standards: http://www.purewatergazette.net/diseasedmeat.htm oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Monday, August 18, 2008 5:11 AM oleander soup [sPAM] Re: mad cow disease? I wonder if colloidal silver might not do the same thing? If DMSO is effective, would it not work after you began showing the signs of mad cow? How often should one have to take it? And even if still around, are not the odds of getting it a bit longer than winning the lottery? Maybe a much better and healthier plan would be to avoid commercial hamburger and other processed beef. oleander soup , " maverick911011 " <maverick911011 wrote: > > Anyone worried about Mad cow disease should be taking DMSO as a > precaution everyday... unfortunantly for the rest of their lives. It > stops prions from replicating and the plaques from forming. > > oleander soup , melly banagale <tita_mel@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Rhoda, > > > > If you read about mad cow at rense.com you will know that it is > still around. People who die of it are given death certificates > stating they died of alzheimers...It is The Establishment that says it > is gone to protect the beef industry. Remember the film of those cows > being beaten and " craned " recently? Those are wasting disease > obviously. And the bulk of those kind went to school cafeterias!!! > Mad cow manifests years after it is acquired. > > > > Melly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Will DMSO work after the symptoms have already manifested? I'm not sure, if I ever got Mad Cow, or CJD, I would definently use it in large quantities. From what I have read and heard, you don't really need much DMSO to dissolve the fibrils, something like a few drops per quart of distilled water. If you have the symptoms however, large doses would probably be better. I would probably use Potassium Thiocyanate as well, even though it is toxic, I would take the risk, lol! oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > I wonder if colloidal silver might not do the same thing? If DMSO is > effective, would it not work after you began showing the signs of mad > cow? How often should one have to take it? And even if still around, > are not the odds of getting it a bit longer than winning the lottery? > > Maybe a much better and healthier plan would be to avoid commercial > hamburger and other processed beef. > > > > > oleander soup , " maverick911011 " > <maverick911011@> wrote: > > > > Anyone worried about Mad cow disease should be taking DMSO as a > > precaution everyday... unfortunantly for the rest of their lives. It > > stops prions from replicating and the plaques from forming. > > > > oleander soup , melly banagale <tita_mel@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rhoda, > > > > > > If you read about mad cow at rense.com you will know that it is > > still around. People who die of it are given death certificates > > stating they died of alzheimers...It is The Establishment that says it > > is gone to protect the beef industry. Remember the film of those cows > > being beaten and " craned " recently? Those are wasting disease > > obviously. And the bulk of those kind went to school cafeterias!!! > > Mad cow manifests years after it is acquired. > > > > > > Melly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Also kosher cheese is made with vegetable enzymes rather than animal. Maracuja--- On Mon, 8/18/08, yahsway <Yahsway wrote: yahsway <YahswayRE: Re: mad cow disease?oleander soup Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 3:20 AM Just an aside, kosher slaughtered meat must undergo rigorous inspection of the animal before slaughter. The carcass can be rejected for 72 different anomalies¢ and if an animal is known to have something that it will die from within one year the carcass is automatically rejected. If there are oddly shaped or size problems with the organs the carcass is rejected. As well, the one swift cut to the carotid artery and esophagus is a human way for the animal passes out quickly and painlessly. The blood is poured completely out to the ground and then the carcass is slated to draw out the rest of the blood. The salting prevents anything from feeding of the traces of blood remaining. This is not so with pole axed and electrocuted commercial meat. The blood coagulates in the veins and bacteria fungi and parasites can feed off the left over blood as food.. The purple standards of meat have been reduced to cutting out areas of tumors, air saculitits, the instructions are to cut out affected portions and pass the mat onto consumers. Yes, there is an alternative. However, Peta has attacked the largest plant with immigration issues so the main suppliers are down. You can sometimes find it in grocery stores under the name Meal Mart in the frozen section. The chicken is Empire Kosher. There is a U with a circle around if it is kosher. It is called a hecture. See this article on meat standards: http://www.purewate rgazette. net/diseasedmeat .htm oleander soup [ oleander soup ] On Behalf Of TonyMonday, August 18, 2008 5:11 AMoleander soup[sPAM]oleander soup Re: mad cow disease? I wonder if colloidal silver might not do the same thing? If DMSO iseffective, would it not work after you began showing the signs of madcow? How often should one have to take it? And even if still around,are not the odds of getting it a bit longer than winning the lottery? Maybe a much better and healthier plan would be to avoid commercialhamburger and other processed beef.Tonyoleander soup, "maverick911011"<maverick911011@ ...> wrote:>> Anyone worried about Mad cow disease should be taking DMSO as a > precaution everyday... unfortunantly for the rest of their lives. It > stops prions from replicating and the plaques from forming.> > oleander soup, melly banagale <tita_mel@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Rhoda,> > > > If you read about mad cow at rense.com you will know that it is > still around. People who die of it are given death certificates > stating they died of alzheimers.. .It is The Establishment that says it > is gone to protect the beef industry. Remember the film of those cows > being beaten and "craned" recently? Those are wasting disease > obviously. And the bulk of those kind went to school cafeterias!! ! > Mad cow manifests years after it is acquired.> > > > Melly> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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