Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Hi Maritza, The link is: http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com oleander soup , Maritza Vlasaty <mvlasaty wrote: > > Marc, > I would like to order Sutherlandia OPC. Would you provide the link to the website? > > Thanks, > Maritza > > > > > Marc marcswan > oleander soup > Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:04:53 AM > Re: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills > > > Maritza, > If you are already taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel, then you can take > a further 2 capsules of Sutherlandia OPC per day. > > Marc Swanepoel > > - > Maritza Vlasaty > oleander soup > Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:42 PM > Re: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills > > Marc, > I have stage IV and currently taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel. Considering adding OCP. What would be the recommended doses of OCP, taking into consideration the 1.5ml of Anvirzel? > > Thanks, > Maritza > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > Marc marcswan (AT) global (DOT) co.za> > oleander soup > Saturday, August 9, 2008 8:04:13 AM > Re: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills > > > Nomita, > > The answers to your Sutherlandia OPC capsule queries are as follows: > (1) The liver cleanse is relatively mild and the Epsom salts should not cause a problem. If you are worried, you can try to find a herbal laxative in place of the Epsom salts. > (2) Your mother can keep on taking the enzyme supplements. I would just suggest that you separate the S/OPC and Vit C by at least 2 hours. Vit C sometimes interferes with the action of some herbs and minerals. > (3) Cancer is mostly a symptom of an underlying condition in the body caused by lifestyle (diet, stress, trauma, etc). Treatment of ANY kind will only be effective if it goes hand in hand with a change in the underlying bodily " terrain. " Therefore a change in diet and lifestyle is a major pre-requisite for success. Your own firm internal belief that you are in charge of your health is a very important starting point. Always remember that there is not a single type of cancer for which there is not some evidence of spontaneous remission. This is another way of saying that there is not a single type of cancer where the internal belief of the patient did not result in some miraculous recovery. However, I don't think you will see major changes in a week or 10 days that will show up on your tests. > (4) The major possible symptoms after starting to use the S/OPC are diarrhea, slight rash, slight nausea, and pain at the tumor site. Some people get slight heart palpitations. Others use the S/OPC for weeks without a problem and then suddenly start to get diarrhea. In that case, just cut back slightly on the dosage until your body can handle it. > (5) The exact dosage depends on the stage of the cancer. If, as you say, the cancer had already metastasized to the liver and other organs, then I would say it is at least at stage III, and 4 capsules per day for a period of at last 3 month should be the suggested dosage. > (6) The capsules are identical in content to the liquid and the lower price is due to the lower weight and thus lower airmail costs. From the feedback I am getting, the liquid and capsules are equally effective. (If you order 5 at a time, you get the 6th bottle of capsules for free). A 3 months' supply of capsules will thus cost you $225 (inclusive of registered airmail delivery). > > Regards, > Marc Swanepoel > > ----- Original Message ----- > Nomita > oleander soup@ . com > Friday, August 08, 2008 5:16 PM > Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills > > Hi All, > > I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since Sep > 07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to the > right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of > detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then > (Carboplatin+ Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was > significant regression with only one node near the kidney showing up > with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to June > 08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110. That's > why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and found > Oleander listed on Cancertutor. com > > She's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she does > believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right > breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So, now > she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low > Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3 > June 08.) > > She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia OPC. I > have some questions for the group: > > 1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis in > July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to do > the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point? > > 2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and > Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue these? > > 3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how soon > does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test next > week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08. > > 4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after > starting Oleander? > > 5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came with > the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my mother's > case " severe " ? > > 6. Are the pills as potent as the soup? > > Thank you, > Nomita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 ,Thanks I just finished placing my orderMaritza May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:00:20 PM Re: att Marc Swanepoel Hi Maritza, The link is: http://www.sutherla ndiaopc.com oleander soup, Maritza Vlasaty <mvlasaty@.. .> wrote: > > Marc, > I would like to order Sutherlandia OPC. Would you provide the link to the website? > > Thanks, > Maritza > > > > > Marc marcswan > oleander soup > Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:04:53 AM > Re: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills > > > Maritza, > If you are already taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel, then you can take > a further 2 capsules of Sutherlandia OPC per day. > > Marc Swanepoel > > - > Maritza Vlasaty > oleander soup > Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:42 PM > Re: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills > > Marc, > I have stage IV and currently taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel. Considering adding OCP. What would be the recommended doses of OCP, taking into consideration the 1.5ml of Anvirzel? > > Thanks, > Maritza > > > > > Marc marcswan (AT) global (DOT) co.za> > oleander soup > Saturday, August 9, 2008 8:04:13 AM > Re: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills > > > Nomita, > > The answers to your Sutherlandia OPC capsule queries are as follows: > (1) The liver cleanse is relatively mild and the Epsom salts should not cause a problem. If you are worried, you can try to find a herbal laxative in place of the Epsom salts. > (2) Your mother can keep on taking the enzyme supplements. I would just suggest that you separate the S/OPC and Vit C by at least 2 hours. Vit C sometimes interferes with the action of some herbs and minerals. > (3) Cancer is mostly a symptom of an underlying condition in the body caused by lifestyle (diet, stress, trauma, etc). Treatment of ANY kind will only be effective if it goes hand in hand with a change in the underlying bodily "terrain." Therefore a change in diet and lifestyle is a major pre-requisite for success. Your own firm internal belief that you are in charge of your health is a very important starting point. Always remember that there is not a single type of cancer for which there is not some evidence of spontaneous remission. This is another way of saying that there is not a single type of cancer where the internal belief of the patient did not result in some miraculous recovery. However, I don't think you will see major changes in a week or 10 days that will show up on your tests. > (4) The major possible symptoms after starting to use the S/OPC are diarrhea, slight rash, slight nausea, and pain at the tumor site. Some people get slight heart palpitations. Others use the S/OPC for weeks without a problem and then suddenly start to get diarrhea. In that case, just cut back slightly on the dosage until your body can handle it. > (5) The exact dosage depends on the stage of the cancer. If, as you say, the cancer had already metastasized to the liver and other organs, then I would say it is at least at stage III, and 4 capsules per day for a period of at last 3 month should be the suggested dosage. > (6) The capsules are identical in content to the liquid and the lower price is due to the lower weight and thus lower airmail costs. From the feedback I am getting, the liquid and capsules are equally effective. (If you order 5 at a time, you get the 6th bottle of capsules for free). A 3 months' supply of capsules will thus cost you $225 (inclusive of registered airmail delivery). > > Regards, > Marc Swanepoel > > - > Nomita > oleander soup > Friday, August 08, 2008 5:16 PM > Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills > > Hi All, > > I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since Sep > 07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to the > right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of > detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then > (Carboplatin+ Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was > significant regression with only one node near the kidney showing up > with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to June > 08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110. That's > why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and found > Oleander listed on Cancertutor. com > > She's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she does > believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right > breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So, now > she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low > Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3 > June 08.) > > She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia OPC. I > have some questions for the group: > > 1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis in > July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to do > the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point? > > 2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and > Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue these? > > 3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how soon > does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test next > week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08. > > 4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after > starting Oleander? > > 5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came with > the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my mother's > case "severe"? > > 6. Are the pills as potent as the soup? > > Thank you, > Nomita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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