Questions on starting Oleander pills

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since Sep

07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to the

right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of

detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then

(Carboplatin+Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was

significant regression with only one node near the kidney showing up

with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to June

08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110. That's

why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and found

Oleander listed on Cancertutor.com

 

She's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she does

believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right

breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So, now

she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low

Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3

June 08.)

 

She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia OPC. I

have some questions for the group:

 

1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis in

July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to do

the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point?

 

2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and

Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue these?

 

3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how soon

does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test next

week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08.

 

4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after

starting Oleander?

 

5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came with

the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my mother's

case " severe " ?

 

6. Are the pills as potent as the soup?

 

Thank you,

Nomita

[Guest guest]

Nomita, welcome to our group.I am just going to reply to a few questions as I am not versed in the more complicated issues with regard to cancer. I am glad your mom has started taking oleander. However, I believe, she should start at a minimum dose and work up gradually to the required dosage. Marc or Tony should see this post shortly and reply in detail. Although, many do not experience any sympoms while taking Sutherlandia OPC, here are a list of the side effects that I have copied from the site.. "Possible side effects from this herbal mix when used as a dietary

supplement may be slight nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, pruritus, pain

at a tumour site, tachycardia and arrhythmias. Because of its

blood-thinning properties, people on medical blood-thinning

preparations should consult their doctors before using the OPC. People

on heart-active drugs, such as digoxin (Lanoxin®) or anti-arrhythmics

should also speak to their doctors before using the mixture. No other

drug interactions have been reported. Pregnant women should preferably

not use the mixture due to its anti-angiogenesis effect. Other short

term detoxification symptoms like a slight rash, runny nose, pimples,

slightly painful joints, etc, may be experienced. The Sutherlandia in

the mixture may cause a slight dryness in the mouth."Also, keep in mind that upon taking Oleander, your mom may experience something called The Herxheimer Reaction, which means that she might feel worse before she starts feeling better. Below is the link to an article written by Tony on this subject.The Herxheimer Reaction - Feeling worse before feeling betterActually, we recommend that everyone take the Sutherlandia OPC supplement first and foremost, as one can be assured as to its safety and as to the correct dosage. These supplements are made in lab conditions under the strictest supervision. We give the recipe to the soup as an alternative. When making the soup, one must follow the recipe to the letter and make sure that the plant being used has not been sprayed with commercial pesticides.Let me also recommend that you follow Tony's anti cancer protocol.A Natural Anti-Cancer ProtocolThis protocol will give her a full arsenal with which to deal with her cancer.I am glad that your mom has opted not to undergo any more chemo, as the only thing chemo is good for is destroying cells, organs, and seriously compromising the immune system. There my be some improvement and a bit of a remission, but the cancer always returns. In very, very few instances it does not and I believe the percentage is 3%. I will say that anyone that I personally know that has survived cancer after using chemo turned to alternative measures and still follow a healthy lifestyle to this very day.Oleander is over 90% effective against different cancers, and together with the anti cancer protocol, it attacks the cancer from from its very source, a compromised immune system. Chemo and mainstream medicine attacks the cancer from the outside, by trying to destroy the actual cancer. Cancer is the result of something wrong in the body and that is why attacking the actual cancer itself from the outside does not work. The cause must be addressed.And I'm sure Marc and Tony will be along to reply to the rest of your questions and give you their input.We are so glad that you have joined our group.Hugs,oleander soup , "Nomita" <on1276 wrote:>> Hi All,> > I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since Sep > 07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to the > right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of > detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then > (Carboplatin+Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was > significant regression with only one node near the kidney showing up > with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to June > 08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110. That's > why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and found > Oleander listed on Cancertutor.com> > She's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she does > believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right > breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So, now > she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low > Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3 > June 08.)> > She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia OPC. I > have some questions for the group:> > 1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis in > July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to do > the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point?> > 2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and > Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue these?> > 3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how soon > does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test next > week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08.> > 4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after > starting Oleander?> > 5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came with > the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my mother's > case "severe"?> > 6. Are the pills as potent as the soup?> > Thank you,> Nomita>

[Guest guest]

Nomita,

 

The answers to your Sutherlandia OPC capsule queries are as follows:

(1) The liver cleanse is relatively mild and the Epsom salts should not cause a problem. If you are worried, you can try to find a herbal laxative in place of the Epsom salts.

(2) Your mother can keep on taking the enzyme supplements. I would just suggest that you separate the S/OPC and Vit C by at least 2 hours. Vit C sometimes interferes with the action of some herbs and minerals.

(3) Cancer is mostly a symptom of an underlying condition in the body caused by lifestyle (diet, stress, trauma, etc). Treatment of ANY kind will only be effective if it goes hand in hand with a change in the underlying bodily "terrain." Therefore a change in diet and lifestyle is a major pre-requisite for success. Your own firm internal belief that you are in charge of your health is a very important starting point. Always remember that there is not a single type of cancer for which there is not some evidence of spontaneous remission. This is another way of saying that there is not a single type of cancer where the internal belief of the patient did not result in some miraculous recovery. However, I don't think you will see major changes in a week or 10 days that will show up on your tests.

(4) The major possible symptoms after starting to use the S/OPC are diarrhea, slight rash, slight nausea, and pain at the tumor site. Some people get slight heart palpitations. Others use the S/OPC for weeks without a problem and then suddenly start to get diarrhea. In that case, just cut back slightly on the dosage until your body can handle it.

(5) The exact dosage depends on the stage of the cancer. If, as you say, the cancer had already metastasized to the liver and other organs, then I would say it is at least at stage III, and 4 capsules per day for a period of at last 3 month should be the suggested dosage.

(6) The capsules are identical in content to the liquid and the lower price is due to the lower weight and thus lower airmail costs. From the feedback I am getting, the liquid and capsules are equally effective. (If you order 5 at a time, you get the 6th bottle of capsules for free). A 3 months' supply of capsules will thus cost you $225 (inclusive of registered airmail delivery).

 

Regards,

Marc Swanepoel

 

 

-

Nomita

oleander soup

Friday, August 08, 2008 5:16 PM

Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

Hi All,I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since Sep 07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to the right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then (Carboplatin+Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was significant regression with only one node near the kidney showing up with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to June 08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110. That's why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and found Oleander listed on Cancertutor.comShe's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she does believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So, now she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3 June 08.)She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia OPC. I have some questions for the group:1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis in July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to do the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point?2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue these?3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how soon does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test next week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08.4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after starting Oleander?5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came with the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my mother's case "severe"?6. Are the pills as potent as the soup?Thank you,Nomita

[Guest guest]

Marc,I have stage IV and currently taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel. Considering adding OCP. What would be the recommended doses of OCP, taking into consideration the 1.5ml of Anvirzel?Thanks,MaritzaMarc <marcswanoleander soup Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 8:04:13 AMRe: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

Nomita,

 

The answers to your Sutherlandia OPC capsule queries are as follows:

(1) The liver cleanse is relatively mild and the Epsom salts should not cause a problem. If you are worried, you can try to find a herbal laxative in place of the Epsom salts.

(2) Your mother can keep on taking the enzyme supplements. I would just suggest that you separate the S/OPC and Vit C by at least 2 hours. Vit C sometimes interferes with the action of some herbs and minerals.

(3) Cancer is mostly a symptom of an underlying condition in the body caused by lifestyle (diet, stress, trauma, etc). Treatment of ANY kind will only be effective if it goes hand in hand with a change in the underlying bodily "terrain." Therefore a change in diet and lifestyle is a major pre-requisite for success. Your own firm internal belief that you are in charge of your health is a very important starting point. Always remember that there is not a single type of cancer for which there is not some evidence of spontaneous remission. This is another way of saying that there is not a single type of cancer where the internal belief of the patient did not result in some miraculous recovery. However, I don't think you will see major changes in a week or 10 days that will show up on your tests.

(4) The major possible symptoms after starting to use the S/OPC are diarrhea, slight rash, slight nausea, and pain at the tumor site. Some people get slight heart palpitations. Others use the S/OPC for weeks without a problem and then suddenly start to get diarrhea. In that case, just cut back slightly on the dosage until your body can handle it.

(5) The exact dosage depends on the stage of the cancer. If, as you say, the cancer had already metastasized to the liver and other organs, then I would say it is at least at stage III, and 4 capsules per day for a period of at last 3 month should be the suggested dosage.

(6) The capsules are identical in content to the liquid and the lower price is due to the lower weight and thus lower airmail costs. From the feedback I am getting, the liquid and capsules are equally effective. (If you order 5 at a time, you get the 6th bottle of capsules for free). A 3 months' supply of capsules will thus cost you $225 (inclusive of registered airmail delivery).

 

Regards,

Marc Swanepoel

 

 

-

Nomita

oleander soup

Friday, August 08, 2008 5:16 PM

Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

Hi All,I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since Sep 07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to the right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then (Carboplatin+ Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was significant regression with only one node near the kidney showing up with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to June 08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110. That's why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and found Oleander listed on Cancertutor. comShe's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she does believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So, now she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3 June 08.)She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia OPC. I have some questions for the group:1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis in July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to do the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point?2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue these?3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how soon does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test next week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08.4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after starting Oleander?5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came with the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my mother's case "severe"?6. Are the pills as potent as the soup?Thank you,Nomita

[Guest guest]

Maritza,

If you are already taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel, then you can take a further 2 capsules of Sutherlandia OPC per day.

 

Marc Swanepoel

 

 

-

Maritza Vlasaty

oleander soup

Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:42 PM

Re: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

 

 

Marc,I have stage IV and currently taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel. Considering adding OCP. What would be the recommended doses of OCP, taking into consideration the 1.5ml of Anvirzel?Thanks,Maritza

 

Marc <marcswan (AT) global (DOT) co.za>oleander soup Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 8:04:13 AMRe: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

Nomita,

 

The answers to your Sutherlandia OPC capsule queries are as follows:

(1) The liver cleanse is relatively mild and the Epsom salts should not cause a problem. If you are worried, you can try to find a herbal laxative in place of the Epsom salts.

(2) Your mother can keep on taking the enzyme supplements. I would just suggest that you separate the S/OPC and Vit C by at least 2 hours. Vit C sometimes interferes with the action of some herbs and minerals.

(3) Cancer is mostly a symptom of an underlying condition in the body caused by lifestyle (diet, stress, trauma, etc). Treatment of ANY kind will only be effective if it goes hand in hand with a change in the underlying bodily "terrain." Therefore a change in diet and lifestyle is a major pre-requisite for success. Your own firm internal belief that you are in charge of your health is a very important starting point. Always remember that there is not a single type of cancer for which there is not some evidence of spontaneous remission. This is another way of saying that there is not a single type of cancer where the internal belief of the patient did not result in some miraculous recovery. However, I don't think you will see major changes in a week or 10 days that will show up on your tests.

(4) The major possible symptoms after starting to use the S/OPC are diarrhea, slight rash, slight nausea, and pain at the tumor site. Some people get slight heart palpitations. Others use the S/OPC for weeks without a problem and then suddenly start to get diarrhea. In that case, just cut back slightly on the dosage until your body can handle it.

(5) The exact dosage depends on the stage of the cancer. If, as you say, the cancer had already metastasized to the liver and other organs, then I would say it is at least at stage III, and 4 capsules per day for a period of at last 3 month should be the suggested dosage.

(6) The capsules are identical in content to the liquid and the lower price is due to the lower weight and thus lower airmail costs. From the feedback I am getting, the liquid and capsules are equally effective. (If you order 5 at a time, you get the 6th bottle of capsules for free). A 3 months' supply of capsules will thus cost you $225 (inclusive of registered airmail delivery).

 

Regards,

Marc Swanepoel

 

 

-

Nomita

oleander soup

Friday, August 08, 2008 5:16 PM

Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

Hi All,I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since Sep 07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to the right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then (Carboplatin+ Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was significant regression with only one node near the kidney showing up with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to June 08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110. That's why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and found Oleander listed on Cancertutor. comShe's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she does believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So, now she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3 June 08.)She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia OPC. I have some questions for the group:1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis in July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to do the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point?2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue these?3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how soon does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test next week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08.4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after starting Oleander?5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came with the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my mother's case "severe"?6. Are the pills as potent as the soup?Thank you,Nomita

[Guest guest]

thanks,Marc <marcswanoleander soup Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 11:04:53 AMRe: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

Maritza,

If you are already taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel, then you can take a further 2 capsules of Sutherlandia OPC per day.

 

Marc Swanepoel

 

 

-

Maritza Vlasaty

oleander soup

Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:42 PM

Re: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

 

 

Marc,I have stage IV and currently taking 1.5ml of Anvirzel. Considering adding OCP. What would be the recommended doses of OCP, taking into consideration the 1.5ml of Anvirzel?Thanks,Maritza

 

Marc <marcswan (AT) global (DOT) co.za>oleander soupSaturday, August 9, 2008 8:04:13 AMRe: Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

Nomita,

 

The answers to your Sutherlandia OPC capsule queries are as follows:

(1) The liver cleanse is relatively mild and the Epsom salts should not cause a problem. If you are worried, you can try to find a herbal laxative in place of the Epsom salts.

(2) Your mother can keep on taking the enzyme supplements. I would just suggest that you separate the S/OPC and Vit C by at least 2 hours. Vit C sometimes interferes with the action of some herbs and minerals.

(3) Cancer is mostly a symptom of an underlying condition in the body caused by lifestyle (diet, stress, trauma, etc). Treatment of ANY kind will only be effective if it goes hand in hand with a change in the underlying bodily "terrain." Therefore a change in diet and lifestyle is a major pre-requisite for success. Your own firm internal belief that you are in charge of your health is a very important starting point. Always remember that there is not a single type of cancer for which there is not some evidence of spontaneous remission. This is another way of saying that there is not a single type of cancer where the internal belief of the patient did not result in some miraculous recovery. However, I don't think you will see major changes in a week or 10 days that will show up on your tests.

(4) The major possible symptoms after starting to use the S/OPC are diarrhea, slight rash, slight nausea, and pain at the tumor site. Some people get slight heart palpitations. Others use the S/OPC for weeks without a problem and then suddenly start to get diarrhea. In that case, just cut back slightly on the dosage until your body can handle it.

(5) The exact dosage depends on the stage of the cancer. If, as you say, the cancer had already metastasized to the liver and other organs, then I would say it is at least at stage III, and 4 capsules per day for a period of at last 3 month should be the suggested dosage.

(6) The capsules are identical in content to the liquid and the lower price is due to the lower weight and thus lower airmail costs. From the feedback I am getting, the liquid and capsules are equally effective. (If you order 5 at a time, you get the 6th bottle of capsules for free). A 3 months' supply of capsules will thus cost you $225 (inclusive of registered airmail delivery).

 

Regards,

Marc Swanepoel

 

 

-

Nomita

oleander soup

Friday, August 08, 2008 5:16 PM

Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

 

 

Hi All,I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since Sep 07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to the right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then (Carboplatin+ Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was significant regression with only one node near the kidney showing up with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to June 08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110. That's why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and found Oleander listed on Cancertutor. comShe's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she does believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So, now she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3 June 08.)She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia OPC. I have some questions for the group:1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis in July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to do the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point?2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue these?3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how soon does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test next week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08.4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after starting Oleander?5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came with the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my mother's case "severe"?6. Are the pills as potent as the soup?Thank you,Nomita

[Guest guest]

Dear and Marc,

 

Thank you for your clear reponses to my questions. My mother has had

some itching and slight rash in the evening which disappears by

morning. Said there was just an instant of pain in the breast today -

there was a lump there in the last scan, though the doctors were

unsure about the existence of any cancer cells in it.

 

I'm guessing these are good signs that the Oleander is working!

 

I'm trying a homeopathic remedy called Cheledonium for liver

cleansing for now.

 

I'll keep you posted.

 

Thanks again,

Nomita

 

oleander soup , " Marc " <marcswan wrote:

>

> Nomita,

>

> The answers to your Sutherlandia OPC capsule queries are as

follows:

> (1) The liver cleanse is relatively mild and the Epsom salts

should not cause a problem. If you are worried, you can try to find

a herbal laxative in place of the Epsom salts.

> (2) Your mother can keep on taking the enzyme supplements. I would

just suggest that you separate the S/OPC and Vit C by at least 2

hours. Vit C sometimes interferes with the action of some herbs and

minerals.

> (3) Cancer is mostly a symptom of an underlying condition in the

body caused by lifestyle (diet, stress, trauma, etc). Treatment of

ANY kind will only be effective if it goes hand in hand with a

change in the underlying bodily " terrain. " Therefore a change in

diet and lifestyle is a major pre-requisite for success. Your own

firm internal belief that you are in charge of your health is a very

important starting point. Always remember that there is not a single

type of cancer for which there is not some evidence of spontaneous

remission. This is another way of saying that there is not a single

type of cancer where the internal belief of the patient did not

result in some miraculous recovery. However, I don't think you will

see major changes in a week or 10 days that will show up on your

tests.

> (4) The major possible symptoms after starting to use the S/OPC

are diarrhea, slight rash, slight nausea, and pain at the tumor

site. Some people get slight heart palpitations. Others use the

S/OPC for weeks without a problem and then suddenly start to get

diarrhea. In that case, just cut back slightly on the dosage until

your body can handle it.

> (5) The exact dosage depends on the stage of the cancer. If, as

you say, the cancer had already metastasized to the liver and other

organs, then I would say it is at least at stage III, and 4 capsules

per day for a period of at last 3 month should be the suggested

dosage.

> (6) The capsules are identical in content to the liquid and the

lower price is due to the lower weight and thus lower airmail costs.

From the feedback I am getting, the liquid and capsules are equally

effective. (If you order 5 at a time, you get the 6th bottle of

capsules for free). A 3 months' supply of capsules will thus cost

you $225 (inclusive of registered airmail delivery).

>

> Regards,

> Marc Swanepoel

>

> -

> Nomita

> oleander soup

> Friday, August 08, 2008 5:16 PM

> Re: Questions on starting Oleander pills

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> I'm new to this group. My mother has been fighting cancer since

Sep

> 07. She had breast ovarian syndrome and the cancer had spread to

the

> right lung and several organs in the abdomen at the time of

> detection. She's had 9 cycles of chemo since then

> (Carboplatin+Taxol) and in the Pet CT scan in Mar 08, there was

> significant regression with only one node near the kidney

showing up

> with cancer. CA 125 went down from 2500 to 72 from Sep 07 to

June

> 08. But in the latest test in end July08 it was up to 110.

That's

> why I looked around for the latest alternative treatments and

found

> Oleander listed on Cancertutor.com

>

> She's been on various alternative treatments throughout but she

does

> believe in chemo and the doctors. She's had cancer of the right

> breast in 2006 and before that in 1990 in the left breast. So,

now

> she is (as am I) afraid of taking any chances. (Because of low

> Haemoglobin and WBC counts she hasn't had any more chemo after 3

> June 08.)

>

> She's just started on the Oleander pills today. Sutherlandia

OPC. I

> have some questions for the group:

>

> 1. She had a severe stomach infection which turned into sepsis

in

> July which landed her in the hospital for a week. Is it safe to

do

> the liver cleanse with Epsom salts at this point?

>

> 2. She's been having an enzyme supplement which has Trypsin and

> Chymotrypsin as well as Vitamin supplements. Can she continue

these?

>

> 3. In your experience, does Oleander work in all cases and how

soon

> does the result show up? We are planning another CA 125 test

next

> week and a PET CT scan on 19 Aug 08.

>

> 4. Can you share any symptoms which start showing up soon after

> starting Oleander?

>

> 5. What is the exact dosage for the pills? The letter that came

with

> the pills said to take 4 pills a day in severe cases. Is my

mother's

> case " severe " ?

>

> 6. Are the pills as potent as the soup?

>

> Thank you,

> Nomita

>