Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 , Marc recommeds the SutherlandiaOPC be given twice a day regardless of the size of the dog as studies show that best results were attained when the substance was given twice a day. For serious diseases like cancer, this would be a minimal amount and might be doubled again depending on the size of the dog. Bob - Paul Cordeau oleander soup Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:52 PM [!! SPAM] Re: Re: Prednisone/Supplements/Zack This group is going to the dogs. Paul N. Cordeau May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 7:48:45 PM Re: Prednisone/Supplements/Zack Hi Zackymag,We welcome you and Zack to our little family.Well, first thing I would do, is get Zack on colloidal silver, IP6 , and the oleander as soon as possible. You can get the colloidal silver and IP6 from Utopia Silver (just follow the links) and to get a discount of 15% on non-sale items, just insert Code LR001. The link to the oleander leads to Marc Swanepoel's site in South Africa. Marc is also a member of this forum and he will also be here to answer any questions.With regard to the colloidal silver, just put it in Zack's drinking water every day. There is no set dosage, but to begin with give him a goodly sum, maybe an ounce, two ounces, or more and as he regains his strength you can reduce the dosage. My Misty takes one tablespoon in her drinking water. However, when she had the fatty tumor, was lethargic, and not eating, I gave her a much larger dose. You might very well notice Zack perk up and his depression subside. Misty is a 9 year old dog who, when taking colloidal silver, has the personality of a puppy. Colloidal silver repairs tissue, so hopefully, it will aid with Zack's muscle weakness and both colloidal silver and oleander strengthen the immune system. Tony suggested getting the powdered IP6 and giving Zack from one half scoop to one scoop daily, depending on his size. Please make sure that the colloidal silver and IP6 are taken at least an hour apart, possibly two.And Marc recommends giving furkids one to two tablets of oleander daily, depending on their size.An option to purchasing the oleander is to make the soup yourself. However, you must follow the recipe to the letter and make sure that the plant has not been sprayed with commercial pesticides. The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 1 The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 2 - Tips and AdviceTony and I recommend getting the oleander fromhttp://www. sutherlandiaopc. com as it does away with the hassle ofmaking the soup and you can be assured as to its quality and safety. We don't have any canine success stories, as until very recently, this was a "human" forum. I believe Cody is our first furkid member and since then other furkids have joined us. We do know that oleander is effective with pets because Dr. Ozel found oleander while looking for a cure for his dog that had cancer. Cody came to us as a very ill little fella undergoing rescue chemo for his lymphoma. He has been a member of our forum for maybe two months now. I believe he has been on colloidal silver and IP6 for just under a month, and just started oleander maybe two weeks ago. However, his last chemo treatment, took too much out of him. As of Bonnie's last post, I believe Cody is doing better, and he just may have the determination to make it through. I am not familiar with Areminisin, so I cannot offer any input. What I can say is that I have complete faith in the oleander, IP6 and colloidal silver protocol. They are all very powerful healers that fight cancer by strengthening the immune system.Again, we don't know what the most successful natural treatment for canine lymphoma is, but I would say that oleander, colloidal silver, and IP6, will give Zack a strong arsenal with which to fight his cancer.I would start Zack on the above as soon as possible. I hope that I have answered your questions and wish you the very best.Hugs, oleander soup, "zackymag53" <nancytime@.. .> wrote:>> Hi May,> I am new in this group. My dog, Zack, has lymphoma and I was interested> in Cody's case, but the information available to me here seems> fragmented. What exactly is the dose of everything ( IP6 , colloidal> silver, oleander and where do I get it)? Is there a specific protocol> for canine lymphoma that you & Tony recommend? He did well for a couple> of months on the Budwig FO/CC mixture until he absolutely refused to eat> it anymore. He went downhill for a week then he has been on prednisone> for 2 weeks and I am now gradually weaning him off it. I must do an> alternative treatment soon, but I have been having alot of trouble> deciding which treatment to give him. He is only 7 years old. He seems> very reluctant to stand up anymore, which may be due to muscle weakness> as prednisone side effect. He also seems depressed. I was also looking> into Arteminisin, but haveing trouble getting a specific protocol on> that. What is the most successfull treatment for canine lymphoma on> record? Is there a record? I have searched for hours, days, weeks,> months online and I am at a loss when it comes to actually deciding on> the right protocol, let alone implimenting it. I need more specifics, I> guess. Please help.> Thanks, Zackymag> oleander soup, " May" luellamay129@> wrote:> >> >> > Hi Bonnie,> >> > Yes, please give Cody all his supplements even while taking> prednisone.> > It will not interfere. I'm not sure I understood your post, were you> > referring to the fact that he is recoveing from his chemo treatment of> a> > few weeks ago? Was he given treatment yesterday?> >> > How long does the vet plan to keep him on prednisone? And please...> > please.... don't take this wrong, but although I am so very happy that> > Cody is eating, Prednisone comes with its own price and I have seen> its> > devastating effect on people. Hopefully, Cody will only need to take> > it very short term. Also, when it is time to go off it, the reduction> > must be slowly.> >> > Did the vet give you a list of side effects? I have included them> > below, please be aware of them and watch Cody carefully.> >> > Also..... And here is a red flag, if Cody is still on antibiotics,> this> > could interact with the prednisone. The following are mentioned> > specifically, but I would be wary of all antibiotics. Actually, I am> > wary of all antibiotics anyway. Ketoconazole (Nizoral), rifampin> > (Rifadin, Rifater, Rifamate, Rimactane), or troleandomycin (Tao).> >> > Bonnie, is he still taking colloidal silver? I would pump him up with> > the silver. This will truly protect him against infections. Really.> > And it is totally safe. This is all I ever use.> >> > Here are the side effects:> >> >> >> > *> > problems with your vision;> >> > *> > swelling, rapid weight gain, feeling short of breath;> >> > *> > severe depression, unusual thoughts or behavior, seizure> (convulsions) ;> >> > *> > bloody or tarry stools, coughing up blood;> >> > *> > pancreatitis (severe pain in your upper stomach spreading to your> back,> > nausea and vomiting, fast heart rate);> >> > *> > low potassium (confusion, uneven heart rate, extreme thirst, increased> > urination, leg discomfort, muscle weakness or limp feeling); or> >> > *> > dangerously high blood pressure (severe headache, blurred vision,> > buzzing in your ears, anxiety, confusion, chest pain, shortness of> > breath, uneven heartbeats, seizure).> >> >> > Less serious side effects may include:> >> > *> > sleep problems (insomnia), mood changes;> >> > *> > acne, dry skin, thinning skin, bruising or discoloration;> >> > *> > slow wound healing;> >> > *> > increased sweating;> >> > *> > headache, dizziness, spinning sensation;> >> > *> > nausea, stomach pain, bloating; or> >> > *> > changes in the shape or location of body fat (especially in your arms,> > legs, face, neck, breasts, and waist).> >> >> > This is not a complete list of side effects and others may occur. Tell> > your doctor about any unusual or bothersome side effect.> > Hugs,> > > > >> > > Bonnie & Cody (who btw is now on prednisone and recovering from his> > chemo> > > treatment after his vet visit yesterday) Hadn't eaten on his own in> > 17 days so> > > vet put him on pred, seems to be working now and hoping I can> > continue on> > > with his oleander/cs/ ip6 protocol now! Would love to know if pred> > could> > > interfere with any of those though? Many thanks!> > >> > >> > >> > > ************ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your> > budget?> > > Read reviews on AOL Autos.> > >> >> (http://autos. aol.com/cars- BMW-128-2008/ expert-review? ncid=aolaut00050 00\> \> > 0000017 )> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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