Another oleander testimonial - for Leukemia

[Guest guest]

Wonderful

news today from an IM correspondent who uses oleander and maker his own

oleander remedy according to the instructions I have written. I hope

to have an interview with the lady he refers to, but in the meanwhile

here is a copy of part of our messaging moments ago:

 

N: btw, i wanted to tell you something..

some lady started to drink oleander...

 

me: i am ok just bizzee

 

N: the strong one...

i made...

for her

lol

she ha(d) leukimia...

no more...

her blood levels are back to better

when they were b4

 

me: really? no sign at all?

 

N: no man, doc was shocked

after 3 monhs

months

for a check up

 

me: where does she live? what state I mean?

 

N: he asked if she was taking her pills...she gave him the whole pack sealed...

lol

she lives here in montreal

i prepared it for her man..

i made it so harsh like for me..

lol

she had stomach issues for first 3 days...

then 1 week later she felt perfect

Sent at 8:08 PM on Thursday

me: that is great news - i surely could use that testimonial for my forums

 

N: ill see if i can get her to write it

 

me: you made the oleander soup right from my recipe, right?

tell her she could help save lives by telling her story.

 

N: your recipe, just filtered it way more..

 

me: or you could ask her if I could call her to interview her??

 

N: i could ask her

when i see her...

friends friends..

i decided to help

but most ppl dont even listen to me..

they think is bs

but this one...tried it..

 

I think I will let that conversation stand on its own.

 

Tony

[Guest guest]

Tony,As someone with leukemia (chronic lymphocytic leukemia or CLL), this is very exciting to read. When and if you interview this woman, could you ask what specific type of leukemia it was she had? If it was CLL, then I have access to another whole group of people on another list server who'd be very interested.Thank you,Allenoleander soup From: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 02:10:24 +0000 Another oleander testimonial - for Leukemia

Wonderful

news today from an IM correspondent who uses oleander and maker his own

oleander remedy according to the instructions I have written. I hope

to have an interview with the lady he refers to, but in the meanwhile

here is a copy of part of our messaging moments ago:

 

N: btw, i wanted to tell you something..

some lady started to drink oleander...

 

me: i am ok just bizzee

 

N: the strong one...

i made...

for her

lol

she ha(d) leukimia...

no more...

her blood levels are back to better

when they were b4

 

me: really? no sign at all?

 

N: no man, doc was shocked

after 3 monhs

months

for a check up

 

me: where does she live? what state I mean?

 

N: he asked if she was taking her pills...she gave him the whole pack sealed...

lol

she lives here in montreal

i prepared it for her man..

i made it so harsh like for me..

lol

she had stomach issues for first 3 days...

then 1 week later she felt perfect

Sent at 8:08 PM on Thursday

me: that is great news - i surely could use that testimonial for my forums

 

N: ill see if i can get her to write it

 

me: you made the oleander soup right from my recipe, right?

tell her she could help save lives by telling her story.

 

N: your recipe, just filtered it way more..

 

me: or you could ask her if I could call her to interview her??

 

N: i could ask her

when i see her...

friends friends..

i decided to help

but most ppl dont even listen to me..

they think is bs

but this one...tried it..

 

I think I will let that conversation stand on its own.

 

Tony

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tony. That's good to know. As I said before, I have low blood count, that is white and red count. My dr is worried about it. What is interesting to know is that two of the three meds that the previous drs. had me on, for anxiety and depression, cause anemia and digestion and immune system issues. My daughter said the nurses call these drugs the "mud slinger" drugs, cause they make you feel like been drug through the mud. I am slowly getting off of them and I have already added Sutherlandia OPC. I am not doing any more tests to determine what this might be - to go any further would mean radiation: PET or CT scans. But, I will let you know in three months where the blood levels are. Janna

 

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Wonderful

news today from an IM correspondent who uses oleander and maker his own

oleander remedy according to the instructions I have written.  I hope

to have an interview with the lady he refers to, but in the meanwhile

here is a copy of part of our messaging moments ago:

 

 N:  btw, i wanted to tell you something..

some lady started to drink oleander...

 

 me:  i am ok just bizzee

 

 N:  the strong one...

i made...

for her

lol

she ha(d) leukimia...

no more...

her blood levels are back to better

when they were b4

 

 me:  really?  no sign at all?

 

 N:  no man, doc was shocked

after  3 monhs

months

for a check up

 

 me:  where does she live? what state I mean?

 

 N:  he asked if she was taking her pills...she gave him the whole pack sealed...

lol

she lives here in montreal

i prepared it for her man..

i made it so harsh like for me..

lol

she had stomach issues for first 3 days...

then 1 week later she felt perfect

 Sent at 8:08 PM on Thursday

 me:  that is great news - i surely could use that testimonial for my forums

 

 N:  ill see if i can get her to write it

 

 me:  you made the oleander soup right from my recipe, right?

tell her she could help save lives by telling her story.

 

 N:  your recipe, just filtered it way more..

 

 me:  or you could ask her if I could call her to interview her??

 

 N:  i could ask her

when i see her...

friends friends..

i decided to help

but most ppl dont even listen to me..

they think is bs

but this one...tried it..

 

I think I will let that conversation stand on its own.

 

Tony

[Guest guest]

I will certainly try to find out all I can. Oleander seems to be

pretty non-discriminatory in the cancers it is effective against from

all I have read and seen.

 

 

oleander soup , allen hahn <allen_hahn wrote:

>

>

> Tony,

>

> As someone with leukemia (chronic lymphocytic leukemia or CLL), this

is very exciting to read. When and if you interview this woman, could

you ask what specific type of leukemia it was she had? If it was CLL,

then I have access to another whole group of people on another list

server who'd be very interested.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Allen

>

> oleander soup

>

> Fri, 1 Aug 2008 02:10:24 +0000

> Another oleander testimonial - for Leukemia

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

Wonderful

> news today from an IM correspondent who uses oleander and maker his own

> oleander remedy according to the instructions I have written. I hope

> to have an interview with the lady he refers to, but in the meanwhile

> here is a copy of part of our messaging moments ago:

>

>

>

> N: btw, i wanted to tell you something..

>

> some lady started to drink oleander...

>

>

>

> me: i am ok just bizzee

>

>

>

> N: the strong one...

>

> i made...

>

> for her

>

> lol

>

> she ha(d) leukimia...

>

> no more...

>

> her blood levels are back to better

>

> when they were b4

>

>

>

> me: really? no sign at all?

>

>

>

> N: no man, doc was shocked

>

> after 3 monhs

>

> months

>

> for a check up

>

>

>

> me: where does she live? what state I mean?

>

>

>

> N: he asked if she was taking her pills...she gave him the whole

pack sealed...

>

> lol

>

> she lives here in montreal

>

> i prepared it for her man..

>

> i made it so harsh like for me..

>

> lol

>

> she had stomach issues for first 3 days...

>

> then 1 week later she felt perfect

>

> Sent at 8:08 PM on Thursday

>

> me: that is great news - i surely could use that testimonial for

my forums

>

>

>

> N: ill see if i can get her to write it

>

>

>

> me: you made the oleander soup right from my recipe, right?

>

> tell her she could help save lives by telling her story.

>

>

>

> N: your recipe, just filtered it way more..

>

>

>

> me: or you could ask her if I could call her to interview her??

>

>

>

> N: i could ask her

>

> when i see her...

>

> friends friends..

>

> i decided to help

>

> but most ppl dont even listen to me..

>

> they think is bs

>

> but this one...tried it..

>

>

>

> I think I will let that conversation stand on its own.

>

>

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I needed that!

I've been feeling a bit down lately bc. I've been giving Max (my cat)

the OS for almost 4 weeks now and I don't feel the tumor is shrinking.

(may have grown a bit, but not much) Since he is only 9lbs. it's

been tough to determine his dosage. I've been increasing VERY slowly

bc. when I increase by more than .1cc at a time he vomits for a few

hours.

Anyway, it was encouraging to read this tonight. It shows me that

high doses can cause stomach issues, but that doesn't mean you have to

stop taking OS. Also gives me hope that this can be effective for

Max, but I may not see actual tumor shrinkage until I've been able to

reach a higher dosage.

 

BTW- I feel somewhat awkward posting here about my cat, since there

are so many humans here battling the " monster " . I mean no disrespect

and do not mean to belittle your plight by posting about my pet. My

father has parotid CA, and mother-in-law has melanoma, so I too have

been touched by cancer in ways beyond my cat.

 

Monica

-------------------

 

oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> Wonderful news today from an IM correspondent who uses oleander and

> maker his own oleander remedy according to the instructions I have

> written. I hope to have an interview with the lady he refers to, but in

> the meanwhile here is a copy of part of our messaging moments ago:

>

> N: btw, i wanted to tell you something..

> some lady started to drink oleander...

>

> me: i am ok just bizzee

>

> N: the strong one...

> i made...

> for her

> lol

> she ha(d) leukimia...

> no more...

> her blood levels are back to better

> when they were b4

>

> me: really? no sign at all?

>

> N: no man, doc was shocked

> after 3 monhs

> months

> for a check up

>

> me: where does she live? what state I mean?

>

> N: he asked if she was taking her pills...she gave him the whole pack

> sealed...

> lol

> she lives here in montreal

> i prepared it for her man..

> i made it so harsh like for me..

> lol

> she had stomach issues for first 3 days...

> then 1 week later she felt perfect

> Sent at 8:08 PM on Thursday

> me: that is great news - i surely could use that testimonial for my

> forums

>

> N: ill see if i can get her to write it

>

> me: you made the oleander soup right from my recipe, right?

> tell her she could help save lives by telling her story.

>

> N: your recipe, just filtered it way more..

>

> me: or you could ask her if I could call her to interview her??

>

> N: i could ask her

> when i see her...

> friends friends..

> i decided to help

> but most ppl dont even listen to me..

> they think is bs

> but this one...tried it..

>

> I think I will let that conversation stand on its own.

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Monica, are you also giving Max colloidal silver? And go by Marc's

instructions with regard to the oleander. Max is a little guy.

 

Hugs,

 

 

oleander soup , " crazymomof464 " <bahorn2

wrote:

>

> Thanks, I needed that!

> I've been feeling a bit down lately bc. I've been giving Max (my cat)

> the OS for almost 4 weeks now and I don't feel the tumor is shrinking.

> (may have grown a bit, but not much) Since he is only 9lbs. it's

> been tough to determine his dosage. I've been increasing VERY slowly

> bc. when I increase by more than .1cc at a time he vomits for a few

> hours.

> Anyway, it was encouraging to read this tonight. It shows me that

> high doses can cause stomach issues, but that doesn't mean you have to

> stop taking OS. Also gives me hope that this can be effective for

> Max, but I may not see actual tumor shrinkage until I've been able to

> reach a higher dosage.

>

> BTW- I feel somewhat awkward posting here about my cat, since there

> are so many humans here battling the " monster " . I mean no disrespect

> and do not mean to belittle your plight by posting about my pet. My

> father has parotid CA, and mother-in-law has melanoma, so I too have

> been touched by cancer in ways beyond my cat.

>

> Monica

> -------------------

>

> oleander soup , " Tony " @ wrote:

> >

> > Wonderful news today from an IM correspondent who uses oleander and

> > maker his own oleander remedy according to the instructions I have

> > written. I hope to have an interview with the lady he refers to,

but in

> > the meanwhile here is a copy of part of our messaging moments ago:

> >

> > N: btw, i wanted to tell you something..

> > some lady started to drink oleander...

> >

> > me: i am ok just bizzee

> >

> > N: the strong one...

> > i made...

> > for her

> > lol

> > she ha(d) leukimia...

> > no more...

> > her blood levels are back to better

> > when they were b4

> >

> > me: really? no sign at all?

> >

> > N: no man, doc was shocked

> > after 3 monhs

> > months

> > for a check up

> >

> > me: where does she live? what state I mean?

> >

> > N: he asked if she was taking her pills...she gave him the whole

pack

> > sealed...

> > lol

> > she lives here in montreal

> > i prepared it for her man..

> > i made it so harsh like for me..

> > lol

> > she had stomach issues for first 3 days...

> > then 1 week later she felt perfect

> > Sent at 8:08 PM on Thursday

> > me: that is great news - i surely could use that testimonial for

my

> > forums

> >

> > N: ill see if i can get her to write it

> >

> > me: you made the oleander soup right from my recipe, right?

> > tell her she could help save lives by telling her story.

> >

> > N: your recipe, just filtered it way more..

> >

> > me: or you could ask her if I could call her to interview her??

> >

> > N: i could ask her

> > when i see her...

> > friends friends..

> > i decided to help

> > but most ppl dont even listen to me..

> > they think is bs

> > but this one...tried it..

> >

> > I think I will let that conversation stand on its own.

> >

> > > >

>

[Guest guest]

Oleander has had reported success in animals, but I am not sure if it

is as successful as it is in humans. Mainly I just do not have that

much experience with using it for animals. Inositol/IP6 and lots of

colloidal silver would be two of my main choices to use if I had a pet

with cancer. Those, along with oleander and removing toxins from the

pet's environment, should be a good combination.

 

Keep in mind that there IS a limit you do not want to surpass with

oleander. I am not sure what that limit would be for a nine pound

cat, but for a 150 lb plus human about the most I have ever seen used

is about twice the maximum recommended dose (and that is with the OPC

product).

 

Marc recommended 1 capsule of the OPC as a daily dose for a 10 pound

dog, so you might consider what the equivalent would be to that for

the OS.

 

Any signs of a prolonged racing heartbeat would be a sure signal to

cut back.

 

Oleander IS a toxic plant which also contains cardiac glycosides that

cross assay with digoxin/digitalis - and though almost all of those

toxins and cardiac glycosides are removed by the boiling and straining

processs, a small amount do remain.

 

 

oleander soup , " crazymomof464 " <bahorn2 wrote:

>

> Thanks, I needed that!

> I've been feeling a bit down lately bc. I've been giving Max (my cat)

> the OS for almost 4 weeks now and I don't feel the tumor is shrinking.

> (may have grown a bit, but not much) Since he is only 9lbs. it's

> been tough to determine his dosage. I've been increasing VERY slowly

> bc. when I increase by more than .1cc at a time he vomits for a few

> hours.

> Anyway, it was encouraging to read this tonight. It shows me that

> high doses can cause stomach issues, but that doesn't mean you have to

> stop taking OS. Also gives me hope that this can be effective for

> Max, but I may not see actual tumor shrinkage until I've been able to

> reach a higher dosage.

>

> BTW- I feel somewhat awkward posting here about my cat, since there

> are so many humans here battling the " monster " . I mean no disrespect

> and do not mean to belittle your plight by posting about my pet. My

> father has parotid CA, and mother-in-law has melanoma, so I too have

> been touched by cancer in ways beyond my cat.

>

> Monica

> -------------------

>

> oleander soup , " Tony " @> wrote:

> >

> > Wonderful news today from an IM correspondent who uses oleander and

> > maker his own oleander remedy according to the instructions I have

> > written. I hope to have an interview with the lady he refers to,

but in

> > the meanwhile here is a copy of part of our messaging moments ago:

> >

> > N: btw, i wanted to tell you something..

> > some lady started to drink oleander...

> >

> > me: i am ok just bizzee

> >

> > N: the strong one...

> > i made...

> > for her

> > lol

> > she ha(d) leukimia...

> > no more...

> > her blood levels are back to better

> > when they were b4

> >

> > me: really? no sign at all?

> >

> > N: no man, doc was shocked

> > after 3 monhs

> > months

> > for a check up

> >

> > me: where does she live? what state I mean?

> >

> > N: he asked if she was taking her pills...she gave him the

whole pack

> > sealed...

> > lol

> > she lives here in montreal

> > i prepared it for her man..

> > i made it so harsh like for me..

> > lol

> > she had stomach issues for first 3 days...

> > then 1 week later she felt perfect

> > Sent at 8:08 PM on Thursday

> > me: that is great news - i surely could use that testimonial for my

> > forums

> >

> > N: ill see if i can get her to write it

> >

> > me: you made the oleander soup right from my recipe, right?

> > tell her she could help save lives by telling her story.

> >

> > N: your recipe, just filtered it way more..

> >

> > me: or you could ask her if I could call her to interview her??

> >

> > N: i could ask her

> > when i see her...

> > friends friends..

> > i decided to help

> > but most ppl dont even listen to me..

> > they think is bs

> > but this one...tried it..

> >

> > I think I will let that conversation stand on its own.

> >

> > > >

>