Wondering if... Nourishment and vitamins

July 31, 2008

Hi Alenka,

I would like to extend you a warm welcome to our little " family, " I

want to thank you for sharing your story and for encouraging Bonnie.

Your post is most informative.

Also, if I may add, colloidal silver is a marvelous healing aid for

pets. I don't know if it helps specifically with anemia, but it will

build Honey's immune system and make her stronger, together with

everything else you are doing.

All I will say is that colloidal silver has never failed me, not for

anything.

Hugs,

oleander soup , AlenkaP wrote:

>

> Hi Bonnie, and everyone,

>

> This is my first post--I joined this list a while ago and have been

reading

> everything and am very grateful for everything I have learned here...

I just

> want to mention to you Bonnie, that the fact that Cody will not chew

the

> vitamin tablet should not deter you from giving it to him. You can

still give it

> to him--you can crush it and mix it in with the food you give him by

> syringe. But there is also a high-calorie nutritional supplement

called Nutri-Cal

> made especially for pets who are not eating, it's a paste that comes

in a tube.

> Also there is a liquid " ensure " type of complete liquid canned

nutritional

> supplement for pets, which also comes as a powder that you mix with

water.

>

> It's very important for Cody to get a lot of nourishment right now +

> vitamins and minerals. The B vitamins stimulate the appetite, so that

would be a

> good thing to give him, or a formula that contains them.

>

> I think that maybe if Cody is not snapping out of it on his own this

time as

> fast as he did before, it's because he's weaker than he was before,

since he

> has not been eating... I have a sweet 4 yr old kitty, Honey, who at

2 yrs

> of age was diagnosed with leukemia and severe anemia and the doctors

just gave

> up on him and sent us home, saying he could die any moment because of

the

> state his blood was in. I had heard about Essiac, so I started him

on that

> right away, and that made him a bit better, but still for months

afterwards he

> would not eat on his own. I knew it was very important to get

nourishment

> into his body, so I fed him by syringe for a long period of time,

three times a

> day, till he came around, for almost 6 months I believe. It was a

very long

> journey for us, and sometimes it was very depressing, because in the

> beginning Honey would always seem worse for a while right after I

gave him his food

> and supplements, so I would wonder if I was doing the right thing...

But

> after several hours of being worse after each meal, he would usually

perk up a

> bit and seemed a bit better, so I continued on.... Eventually he

started

> showing real improvement. He surprised me one day, when I was

getting ready to

> feed him, by licking up on his own the meal I had prepared to give

to him by

> syringe! I had to laugh at that!

>

> He is well now, only still slightly anemic, but the leukemia is gone.

He

> has a good appetite and acts totally normal, playing and running

around as he

> did before he got sick...

>

> I gave Honey all kinds of remedies, Essiac, olive leaf extract, black

walnut

> & wormwood extract, artemisinin, beta glucan (shrinks tumors & helps

the

> immune system) and many others, as I did not know about oleander soup

at the

> time. I also gave him a lot of nutritional supplements, including

whey protein

> and that also helped bring back his appetite. Whey protein is very

good for

> debilitating diseases, when the patient won't eat on his own.

>

> I just wanted to tell you not to give up on Cody, but in addition to

the

> remedies he also needs a lot of good nourishment and vitamins to make

it and he

> needs you to give this to him if he won't eat on his own.

>

> Good luck to both of you...

> Alenka

>

> In a message dated 7/31/2008 7:09:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> evian793 writes:

>

> Bob,

>

> Are they the chewable ones...these? If so Cody would not chew them

at all,

> he would sniff them and walk away. I need one that is in a capsule

form..

> scroll down more......

>

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July 31, 2008

Hi Alenka, Just so everyone knows, here is what nutri-cal is:

Corn Syrup, Soybean Oil, Malt Syrup, Cod Liver Oil, Cane Molasses, Methylcellulose, Water, Peptones, dl-Alpha tocopheryl Acetate (Vit. E), Sodium Benzoate (Preservative), Manganese Sulphate, Iron Peptonate, Thiamine HCl, Nicotinamide, Calcium Pantothenate (source of Calcium and Pantothenic Acid), Magnesium Sulphate, Pyridoxine HCl, Vitamin A Palmitate, Potassium Iodide (Source of Iodine and Potassium), Riboflavin 5' Phosphate Sodium (Source of Vit. B2 and Phosphorus), Vitamin A Palmitate & D3 Concentrate, Folic Acid and Cyanocobalamin (Vit. B12).

Guaranteed analysis per teaspoon (6 grams)

The only thing of any benefit at all is cod liver oil. Can't tell from this, but, in the past this product used to be petroleum based. Maybe they changed that, but, these are not ingredients I would give to my healthy dog, let alone, an immune compromised one. JMO.

I doubt if the "ensure" type is any better. I would be very leery of using any products that are made for "pets". They are usually synthetic and poor quality products. As I mentioned before, slippery elm, which can be made into a paste and the homeopathic remedy nux vomica 30 c or x will help with nausea, if that is why he is not eating.

Bonnie, you might want to consult with an animal communicator and see what Cody wants.

Best,

Nonie

But there is also a high-calorie nutritional supplement called Nutri-Cal made especially for pets who are not eating, it's a paste that comes in a tube. Also there is a liquid "ensure" type of complete liquid canned nutritional supplement for pets, which also comes as a powder that you mix with water.

I gave Honey all kinds of remedies, Essiac, olive leaf extract, black walnut & wormwood extract, artemisinin, beta glucan (shrinks tumors & helps the immune system) and many others, as I did not know about oleander soup at the time. I also gave him a lot of nutritional supplements, including whey protein and that also helped bring back his appetite. Whey protein is very good for debilitating diseases, when the patient won't eat on his own.

I just wanted to tell you not to give up on Cody, but in addition to the remedies he also needs a lot of good nourishment and vitamins to make it and he needs you to give this to him if he won't eat on his own.

Good luck to both of you...

Alenka