re: problems with anxiety - need advice

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Tony or May,

As yet I have not been able to get off the antidepressants and sleeping meds.(I

hate them but

I know that I cannot just cut back, I know that it has to be a taper). The benzo

one that I am

on is one of the worst ones to get off of - lol! Dr. Heather Ashton has a clinic

in UK for

withdrawal from benzo drugs. I have found an org here that helps with that

" theroadback.org " complete with taper schedule and nutritionals to balance the

system while

getting off the drugs.I feel that I have a bigger health issue with my low blood

count to deal

with first. We know that it is not AIDS, and several other things but a return

of cancer has not

been ruled out and I don't know that I want to go through their radiation

battery to find out.

No night sweats or anything else that would indicate cancer, no digestion

problems. My

question is: Does the Sutherlandia OPC help with depression? I would like to

feel that I will

also get some help with that as well (I don't want to increase my dose of any of

these

nasties). I am doing the rest of the protocol, however. I have felt too tired to

do cleanses or

flushes. i have all the stuff to do parasite cleanse, colon and kidney cleanse.

I intend to be a

much healthier, happier (no meds) person soon. Janna

[Guest guest]

Dear May, Maracuja, Dr. Lanphier, and all the other respondents,

First, thank you so much for your responses. I will reread them again to slowly

digest all

the information that they contain. i so appreciate this forum and the help and

support that

it offers.

May, I do feel that this has an impact on this forum: the side effects of

these drugs,

when taken long term, which they don't tell you include suppressed immune

response and

effects on endocrine and pituitary systems. Your hormones play a huge role in

your body's

response to fighting off cancer. Some antidepressants have been linked to

increase risk of

breast cancer. The truth is they don't know what these drugs do to the body long

term.

Consequently, now that the drugs seem to not be working effectively for me, it

seems like

a fine time to get off.

I do already eat healthy, take iodine and Omega 3 (which I am going to

increase), exercise,

get out in the sunshine, so those are big pluses already. I have a hard time

with flax seed

oil - it tastes like linseed oil. As an artist it makes me feel like I am eating

my work, which

is just creepy and I gag with it. Someone has told me that that means that the

oil is rancid,

because it doesn't taste like that. I may have to try it again.

I have tried two other times to just get off of them and landed one time in out

patient

clinic and the second time in full time day treatment. The solution both times

was to

change to a different antidepressant, with the second time adding an anti

anxiety and a

sleep aid.

I have gone through testing will a really good dr who believes totally in the

right

nutritionials and our bodies ability to heal itself. In the course of the

testing, we found

that I was low in estrogen, testosterone, androgine (misp)and that my

progesterone level

was undectable - it was so low!!! (that's the good one that protects you from

fibroids and

breast cancer) and my thyroid was low. We are addressing those - but how can I

really

know what has been effected till I am off of these things and my body starts to

respond

naturally?

I react differently to some meds - Wellbutrin has made me have no appetite (been

on it

before, know that it does that to me). Lexapro is listed has having immune

supressant

properties and to cause anemia, while those aren't listed for Wellbutrin and any

of the

others that I am on, they all do effect your hormones.

My dr has agreed to help me and I am going to follow a really slow taper. I

didn't know the

added bonus in Colliodial Gold - I hadn't read that before, I guess I really

wasn't paying

attention. I never had panic attacks like this before till I was on

antidepressants and I

didn't have insomnia till antidepressants. I think that I would prefer my body

as it is

naturally than to all this chemical soup. Thank you for all your sound wisdom -

I eally do

appreciate it. Janna

[Guest guest]

Janna,I am glad you have found a doctor that will help you. Don't forget to add the Trace Minerals. They are very important. I believe this is the supplement that played the biggest part in my healing.What you don't want to do is drop down so fast that you end up in outpatient again or have to substitute other drugs in order to relieve the withdrawal symptoms. This defeats the purpose. Dropping down too fast can not only greatly discourage you but can instill fear in trying it again. And replacing the drug being withdrawn from with another drug... well... need I say more? They are both self defeating. Go as slow as you have to. Once you are totally comfortable with the dosage you are on, THEN drop down. No suffering, no white

knuckling. Easy does it. With love. There is no time limit. And when you are done, you WILL be done and you will feel good, naturally.You really do not know what kind of withdrawal symptoms you will have until you get them. Everybody is different. The key is not to suffer. If it is too uncomfortable, do not go down anymore until it becomes comfortable, until the symptoms are gone. If it is unbearable, go up one dose until you are comfortable, then go back down again. Easy does it. Also, I am glad you have a doctor helping you out with this, I do hope he does it naturally, and yes slowly.I will share with you that Wellbutin almost killed me. I really believe so. Insomnia by the way is a side effect of antidepressants and because my insomnia was severe I was taken off Paxil and put on Wellbutin. I don't know if it was because the two were suddenly or abruptly

switched or if it was just the Wellbutin. Well, the instructions say that you may feel uncomfortable at first but better in a few days. So, like a good little patient I ignored how I felt and went on with regular life. Day one was bad.... day two worse..... Day three, I passed out at work. Actually, passing out I felt like I was dying. I woke up briefly in an ambulance on the way to emergency. These drugs are dangerous and if doctors do not administer them properly, they can be deadly. Of course, I went back to my "beloved" Paxil after that, and opted to stay with the side effects that I was so familiar with.I believe colloidal gold will make things easier for you too. Keep us posted on those tests and what the doctor is doing for those conditions. Myself, I am not a doctor, but could those medications be causing those exact conditions? It may be that once your system is operating

properly naturally that they may just correct themselves. I cannot tell you precisely what was amiss in my system, but it seemed to all fall into place like a puzzle once I started on a proper diet and the right supplements.Janna, do keep us posted. We are here for you!Love and Hugs, Dear May, Maracuja, Dr. Lanphier, and all the other respondents,

First, thank you so much for your responses. I will reread them again to slowly digest all

the information that they contain. i so appreciate this forum and the help and support that

it offers.

May, I do feel that this has an impact on this forum: the side effects of these drugs,

when taken long term, which they don't tell you include suppressed immune response and

effects on endocrine and pituitary systems. Your hormones play a huge role in your body's

response to fighting off cancer. Some antidepressants have been linked to increase risk of

breast cancer. The truth is they don't know what these drugs do to the body long term.

Consequently, now that the drugs seem to not be working effectively for me, it seems like

a fine time to get off.

I do already eat healthy, take iodine and Omega 3 (which I am going to increase), exercise,

get out in the sunshine, so those are big pluses already. I have a hard time with flax seed

oil - it tastes like linseed oil. As an artist it makes me feel like I am eating my work, which

is just creepy and I gag with it. Someone has told me that that means that the oil is rancid,

because it doesn't taste like that. I may have to try it again.

I have tried two other times to just get off of them and landed one time in out patient

clinic and the second time in full time day treatment. The solution both times was to

change to a different antidepressant, with the second time adding an anti anxiety and a

sleep aid.

I have gone through testing will a really good dr who believes totally in the right

nutritionials and our bodies ability to heal itself. In the course of the testing, we found

that I was low in estrogen, testosterone, androgine (misp)and that my progesterone level

was undectable - it was so low!!! (that's the good one that protects you from fibroids and

breast cancer) and my thyroid was low. We are addressing those - but how can I really

know what has been effected till I am off of these things and my body starts to respond

naturally?

I react differently to some meds - Wellbutrin has made me have no appetite (been on it

before, know that it does that to me). Lexapro is listed has having immune supressant

properties and to cause anemia, while those aren't listed for Wellbutrin and any of the

others that I am on, they all do effect your hormones.

My dr has agreed to help me and I am going to follow a really slow taper. I didn't know the

added bonus in Colliodial Gold - I hadn't read that before, I guess I really wasn't paying

attention. I never had panic attacks like this before till I was on antidepressants and I

didn't have insomnia till antidepressants. I think that I would prefer my body as it is

naturally than to all this chemical soup. Thank you for all your sound wisdom - I eally do

appreciate it. Janna