Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Bob, Although it would be cheaper to make, there are mainly two reasons for me not making a pure oleander concentrate. Firstly it seems that oleander works better in combination with some immune boosting substances (like Sutherlandia). I used the oleander for about a year by itself before I started to experiment with mixtures. The mixture (both my first mixture, the Agaricus OPC and the Sutherlandia OPC (which I only produced at a later stage) gave better results than the pure oleander for HIV/AIDS treatment as well as for cancer. The second reason is simply that sending pure oleander all over the world could pose a customs problem for many people. It is much easier to send "Sutherlandia OPC" than "Oleander Pure Extract." Marc - bbanever oleander soup Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:47 AM Re: Re: to Marc; Are caps as effective as liquid OPC Marc, I have a question for you. Why don't you make a pure oleander extract capsule or liquid? Why do you make a combination of that with Sutherlandia? Just curious... but does the combination work better than the oleander alone? Thanks. Bob - Marc oleander soup Monday, July 21, 2008 1:39 PM Re: Re: to Marc; Are caps as effective as liquid OPC Many people have enquired about the effectiveness of the Sutherlandia OPC capsules versus the liquid. My personal experience in using the capsules for nearly a year now, is that there is no difference between the two. This is confirmed by feedback from others. What difference there is, is mainly due to the aversion that some people have towards the taste of the liquid. For many users, the smell alone is enough to bring on a feeling of nausea. Others can drink it like a soda with no problem. The content of the liquid and the capsules is identical for all practical purposes with the capsules having a slightly higher percentage of Sutherlandia Frutescens than the liquid. This due to the fact that the capsules are made by evaporating the water very rapidly from the initial oleander extract in a separate process. The oleander extract powder thus obtained is then mixed with the same quantity of Sutherlandia powder as was used in making the initial Sutherlandia extract. One can see that the actual raw Sutherlandia powder included in this manner will be higher than the amount in the extract (if one had to evaporate the water from the initial Sutherlandia extract, one will get less powder than by including the powder used for MAKING this extract). If you read the label on the capsules you will note that there is 66mg of the "Concentrated Nerium Extract" per capsule. For 60 capsules, this comes to 3960mg per bottle. In making the oleander extract, one uses 50gm (50,000mg) raw oleander and 15gm Sutherlandia powder. Of the 50gm oleander, roughly 4gm (8%) thus make up the active ingredients. The same will be true of the Sutherlandia extract. That is why the capsules have the same amount of active oleander ingredients as the liquid but more of the Sutherlandia ingredients than the liquid. The total 15gm Sutherlandia powder is mixed with the 4gm dry oleander extract powder. Hope this makes sense to everybody. Marc - Tony oleander soup Monday, July 21, 2008 9:34 PM Re: to Marc; Are caps as effective as liquid OPC Hopefully the busy Marc will see this and answer himself. I sawsomewhere that someone here reported getting a message from Marc tothe effect that the caps were not quite as potent (but if so, that maybe compensated for by his recommended dosages).I have often stated that I have no reason at all to doubt the caps,but that I personally prefer and recommend the extract simply becausethat is what has been around by far the longest and what has theproven track record, so far as I know. I look forward to seeing moreinformation regarding successes directly related to the capsule version.I would suggest in the interim that you filter your home made soup anadditional time through several layers of unbleached coffee filtersand see if that helps.Tonyoleander soup , "Rhoda Mead" <hummingbird541wrote:>> *My email address list has been deleted. Sorry, but I need to ask Marc a> question. Actually, several of you may be interested.> Marc, my digestion is impaired right now, and I'm having a lot oftrouble> with my homemade OS, but not with OPC caps. 1. How certain are youthat they> are equivalent? 2. I have active cancer now. How many OPC caps a daydo you> recommend? Thanks Rhoda> *> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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