oleander and other substances / protocols

[Guest guest]

For your info,,I tried the budwig diet for 3 months prior to getting my Gist stomach tumor surgically removed. During that time, my Gist tumor grew from 7.5 to 9.7 cm.

I enjoyed the budwig diet and it was delicious but no help to me.

From what Marc and Tony says I still think the Oleander soup

www.southerlandiaopc.com

($60 and if you want express shipping it is $100 per bottle.)

is still a better risk. I think I had a cancerous sore on the top of my hand three days ago I started using Flax Hull Lilignams purchased from AIDS AWARENESS.ORG

3 jars for $82. Buy 2 and get 1 free. Anyway the laison has dried and started to shrink. The reason I tried that since it is curing many South Africans in Southern Africa and Dr Budwig said the Flax oil and flax seeds were good. Check the following site to see how much more powerful the Flax Hull Lingins.

I have a follow on to have the stiches removed from the hernia that resulted from my prior cancer operation.

I'll confirm whether it was cancerous monday night or Tuesday. I am amazed as almost all my problems except insomnia have gone. I sent the links to the Flax hull lingins to the Cancercures group.

Hope this info helps you.

Bill

 

 

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jrrjim

oleander soup

2008-07-03 12:56

Questions about interactions of oleander and other substances / protocols

 

 

I'm currently doing a modified Budwig diet, with the additions ofbeta glucan, IP6, DMG, CoQ10, low dose naltrexone, and a smatteringof other vitamins and minerals that I keep below the megadose ranges,so they don't interfere with the Budwig approach.I'm considering adding artemix/butyrate to this. And of course I'mconsidering adding oleander to it, but I need to learn more aboutoleander first (but again I don't have much time).So I'm wondering about the general protocols of people here usingoleander -- do you all also use any of the above approaches witholeander? (budwig, beta glucan, IP6, LDN, artemix/butyrate). Or arethere conflicts with any of these substances / approaches? I do knowthat artemix/butyrate and oleander are both cytotoxic, so I amwondering if one should use one or the other, but not bothsimultaneously.Oh, and in term of oleander -- which form do most people take here? Home-grown, the Sutherland supplement, or some other supplement?

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Bill, but this doesn't really answer my question, which is

whether or not oleander conflicts with Budwig, and the other things I

mentioned.

 

oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins wrote:

>

> For your info,,I tried the budwig diet for 3 months prior to

getting my Gist stomach tumor surgically removed. During that time,

my Gist tumor grew from 7.5 to 9.7 cm.

> I enjoyed the budwig diet and it was delicious but no help to me.

> From what Marc and Tony says I still think the Oleander soup

> www.southerlandiaopc.com

> ($60 and if you want express shipping it is $100 per bottle.)

> is still a better risk. I think I had a cancerous sore on the top

of my hand three days ago I started using Flax Hull Lilignams

purchased from AIDS AWARENESS.ORG

> 3 jars for $82. Buy 2 and get 1 free. Anyway the laison has dried

and started to shrink. The reason I tried that since it is curing

many South Africans in Southern Africa and Dr Budwig said the Flax

oil and flax seeds were good. Check the following site to see how

much more powerful the Flax Hull Lingins.

> I have a follow on to have the stiches removed from the hernia that

resulted from my prior cancer operation.

> I'll confirm whether it was cancerous monday night or Tuesday. I am

amazed as almost all my problems except insomnia have gone. I sent

the links to the Flax hull lingins to the Cancercures group.

> Hope this info helps you.

> Bill

>

> -

> jrrjim

> oleander soup

> 2008-07-03 12:56

> Questions about interactions of oleander

and other substances / protocols

>

>

> I'm currently doing a modified Budwig diet, with the additions of

> beta glucan, IP6, DMG, CoQ10, low dose naltrexone, and a

smattering

> of other vitamins and minerals that I keep below the megadose

ranges,

> so they don't interfere with the Budwig approach.

>

> I'm considering adding artemix/butyrate to this. And of course I'm

> considering adding oleander to it, but I need to learn more about

> oleander first (but again I don't have much time).

>

> So I'm wondering about the general protocols of people here using

> oleander -- do you all also use any of the above approaches with

> oleander? (budwig, beta glucan, IP6, LDN, artemix/butyrate). Or

are

> there conflicts with any of these substances / approaches? I do

know

> that artemix/butyrate and oleander are both cytotoxic, so I am

> wondering if one should use one or the other, but not both

> simultaneously.

>

> Oh, and in term of oleander -- which form do most people take

here?

> Home-grown, the Sutherland supplement, or some other supplement?

>

[Guest guest]

I am going to jump in here. In reply to your question, oleander is

compatible with everything that you mentioned.

 

The only thing that oleander is not compatible with is Protocel.

 

Have a wonderful 4th!

 

Hugs,

 

 

oleander soup , " jrrjim " <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:

>

> Thanks, Bill, but this doesn't really answer my question, which is

> whether or not oleander conflicts with Budwig, and the other things I

> mentioned.

>

> oleander soup , " Bill " <w.wilkins@> wrote:

> >

> > For your info,,I tried the budwig diet for 3 months prior to

> getting my Gist stomach tumor surgically removed. During that time,

> my Gist tumor grew from 7.5 to 9.7 cm.

> > I enjoyed the budwig diet and it was delicious but no help to me.

> > From what Marc and Tony says I still think the Oleander soup

> > www.southerlandiaopc.com

> > ($60 and if you want express shipping it is $100 per bottle.)

> > is still a better risk. I think I had a cancerous sore on the top

> of my hand three days ago I started using Flax Hull Lilignams

> purchased from AIDS AWARENESS.ORG

> > 3 jars for $82. Buy 2 and get 1 free. Anyway the laison has dried

> and started to shrink. The reason I tried that since it is curing

> many South Africans in Southern Africa and Dr Budwig said the Flax

> oil and flax seeds were good. Check the following site to see how

> much more powerful the Flax Hull Lingins.

> > I have a follow on to have the stiches removed from the hernia that

> resulted from my prior cancer operation.

> > I'll confirm whether it was cancerous monday night or Tuesday. I am

> amazed as almost all my problems except insomnia have gone. I sent

> the links to the Flax hull lingins to the Cancercures group.

> > Hope this info helps you.

> > Bill

> >

> > -

> > jrrjim

> > oleander soup

> > 2008-07-03 12:56

> > Questions about interactions of oleander

> and other substances / protocols

> >

> >

> > I'm currently doing a modified Budwig diet, with the additions of

> > beta glucan, IP6, DMG, CoQ10, low dose naltrexone, and a

> smattering

> > of other vitamins and minerals that I keep below the megadose

> ranges,

> > so they don't interfere with the Budwig approach.

> >

> > I'm considering adding artemix/butyrate to this. And of course I'm

> > considering adding oleander to it, but I need to learn more about

> > oleander first (but again I don't have much time).

> >

> > So I'm wondering about the general protocols of people here using

> > oleander -- do you all also use any of the above approaches with

> > oleander? (budwig, beta glucan, IP6, LDN, artemix/butyrate). Or

> are

> > there conflicts with any of these substances / approaches? I do

> know

> > that artemix/butyrate and oleander are both cytotoxic, so I am

> > wondering if one should use one or the other, but not both

> > simultaneously.

> >

> > Oh, and in term of oleander -- which form do most people take

> here?

> > Home-grown, the Sutherland supplement, or some other supplement?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks !

 

Now, as I currently cannot " brew my own " would you all recommend the

SutherlandOPC supplements?

 

oleander soup , " May " <luellamay129

wrote:

>

> I am going to jump in here. In reply to your question, oleander is

> compatible with everything that you mentioned.

>

> The only thing that oleander is not compatible with is Protocel.

>

> Have a wonderful 4th!

>

> Hugs,

>

>

> > >

> > > -

> > > jrrjim

> > > oleander soup

> > > 2008-07-03 12:56

> > > Questions about interactions of

oleander

> > and other substances / protocols

> > >

> > >

> > > I'm currently doing a modified Budwig diet, with the

additions of

> > > beta glucan, IP6, DMG, CoQ10, low dose naltrexone, and a

> > smattering

> > > of other vitamins and minerals that I keep below the megadose

> > ranges,

> > > so they don't interfere with the Budwig approach.

> > >

> > > I'm considering adding artemix/butyrate to this. And of

course I'm

> > > considering adding oleander to it, but I need to learn more

about

> > > oleander first (but again I don't have much time).

> > >

> > > So I'm wondering about the general protocols of people here

using

> > > oleander -- do you all also use any of the above approaches

with

> > > oleander? (budwig, beta glucan, IP6, LDN, artemix/butyrate).

Or

> > are

> > > there conflicts with any of these substances / approaches? I

do

> > know

> > > that artemix/butyrate and oleander are both cytotoxic, so I am

> > > wondering if one should use one or the other, but not both

> > > simultaneously.

> > >

> > > Oh, and in term of oleander -- which form do most people take

> > here?

> > > Home-grown, the Sutherland supplement, or some other

supplement?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Is paw paw compatible with budwig?

Thanks, Robyn--- On Fri, 7/4/08, jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 wrote:

jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10 Re: oleander and other substances / protocolsoleander soup Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 10:17 AM

 

 

Thanks !Now, as I currently cannot "brew my own" would you all recommend the SutherlandOPC supplements?oleander soup, " May" <luellamay129@ ...> wrote:>> I am going to jump in here. In reply to your question, oleander is> compatible with everything that you mentioned.> > The only thing that oleander is not compatible with is Protocel.> > Have a wonderful 4th!> > Hugs,> > > > > > > > - > > > jrrjim > > > oleander soup > > > 2008-07-03 12:56> > > Questions about interactions of oleander

> > and other substances / protocols> > > > > > > > > I'm currently doing a modified Budwig diet, with the additions of> > > beta glucan, IP6, DMG, CoQ10, low dose naltrexone, and a > > smattering> > > of other vitamins and minerals that I keep below the megadose > > ranges,> > > so they don't interfere with the Budwig approach.> > > > > > I'm considering adding artemix/butyrate to this. And of course I'm> > > considering adding oleander to it, but I need to learn more about> > > oleander first (but again I don't have much time).> > > > > > So I'm wondering about the general protocols of people here using> > > oleander -- do you all also use any of the above approaches with> > > oleander? (budwig, beta glucan, IP6, LDN,

artemix/butyrate) . Or > > are> > > there conflicts with any of these substances / approaches? I do > > know> > > that artemix/butyrate and oleander are both cytotoxic, so I am> > > wondering if one should use one or the other, but not both> > > simultaneously.> > > > > > Oh, and in term of oleander -- which form do most people take > > here? > > > Home-grown, the Sutherland supplement, or some other supplement?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi Robyn,This is just my 2 cents, but you should probably direct this question to the Budwig group.Mikerobyn howell <robynehowelloleander soup Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2008 9:05:07 PMRe: Re: oleander and other substances / protocols

 

Is paw paw compatible with budwig?

Thanks, Robyn--- On Fri, 7/4/08, jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@ > wrote:

jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@ > Re: oleander and other substances / protocolsoleander soupFriday, July 4, 2008, 10:17 AM

 

 

Thanks !Now, as I currently cannot "brew my own" would you all recommend the SutherlandOPC supplements?oleander soup, " May" <luellamay129@ ...> wrote:>> I am going to jump in here. In reply to your question, oleander is> compatible with everything that you mentioned.> > The only thing that oleander is not compatible with is Protocel.> > Have a wonderful 4th!> > Hugs,> > > > > > > > - > > > jrrjim > > > oleander soup > > > Sent:

2008-07-03 12:56> > > Questions about interactions of oleander

> > and other substances / protocols> > > > > > > > > I'm currently doing a modified Budwig diet, with the additions of> > > beta glucan, IP6, DMG, CoQ10, low dose naltrexone, and a > > smattering> > > of other vitamins and minerals that I keep below the megadose > > ranges,> > > so they don't interfere with the Budwig approach.> > > > > > I'm considering adding artemix/butyrate to this. And of course I'm> > > considering adding oleander to it, but I need to learn more about> > > oleander first (but again I don't have much time).> > > > > > So I'm wondering about the general protocols of people here using> > > oleander -- do you all also use any of the above approaches with> > > oleander? (budwig, beta glucan, IP6, LDN,

artemix/butyrate) . Or > > are> > > there conflicts with any of these substances / approaches? I do > > know> > > that artemix/butyrate and oleander are both cytotoxic, so I am> > > wondering if one should use one or the other, but not both> > > simultaneously.> > > > > > Oh, and in term of oleander -- which form do most people take > > here? > > > Home-grown, the Sutherland supplement, or some other supplement?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Sorry I posted this one. No one said anything except the one using the much weaker budwig flax oil even commented. .

Bill

 

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Bill

oleander soup

2008-07-03 21:44

Re: oleander and other substances / protocols

 

 

 

For your info,,I tried the budwig diet for 3 months prior to getting my Gist stomach tumor surgically removed. During that time, my Gist tumor grew from 7.5 to 9.7 cm.

I enjoyed the budwig diet and it was delicious but no help to me.

From what Marc and Tony says I still think the Oleander soup

www.southerlandiaopc.com

($60 and if you want express shipping it is $100 per bottle.)

is still a better risk. I think I had a cancerous sore on the top of my hand three days ago I started using Flax Hull Lilignams purchased from AIDS AWARENESS.ORG

3 jars for $82. Buy 2 and get 1 free. Anyway the laison has dried and started to shrink. The reason I tried that since it is curing many South Africans in Southern Africa and Dr Budwig said the Flax oil and flax seeds were good. Check the following site to see how much more powerful the Flax Hull Lingins.

I have a follow on to have the stiches removed from the hernia that resulted from my prior cancer operation.

I'll confirm whether it was cancerous monday night or Tuesday. I am amazed as almost all my problems except insomnia have gone. I sent the links to the Flax hull lingins to the Cancercures group.

Hope this info helps you.

Bill

 

 

-

jrrjim

oleander soup

2008-07-03 12:56

Questions about interactions of oleander and other substances / protocols

 

 

I'm currently doing a modified Budwig diet, with the additions ofbeta glucan, IP6, DMG, CoQ10, low dose naltrexone, and a smatteringof other vitamins and minerals that I keep below the megadose ranges,so they don't interfere with the Budwig approach.I'm considering adding artemix/butyrate to this. And of course I'mconsidering adding oleander to it, but I need to learn more aboutoleander first (but again I don't have much time).So I'm wondering about the general protocols of people here usingoleander -- do you all also use any of the above approaches witholeander? (budwig, beta glucan, IP6, LDN, artemix/butyrate). Or arethere conflicts with any of these substances / approaches? I do knowthat artemix/butyrate and oleander are both cytotoxic, so I amwondering if one should use one or the other, but not bothsimultaneously.Oh, and in term of oleander -- which form do most people take here? Home-grown, the Sutherland supplement, or some other supplement?