Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 oleander soup , Courtney Burk <cwb1212 wrote: To the best of my knowledge: The previous makers of Aniverzel, Phoenix Biotech in San Antonio, are making a new pill form of oleander medicine and THAT is what is in current trials at MD Anderson. It is not Anvirzel, but rather uses a different extraction method (liquid carbon dioxide and micro-fine particles of oleander) to extract a greater amount of oleandrin and still retain all the other valuable supporting compounds. As far as I know, it has no operative name at this point in time. Not long ago,Phoenix spun off another company, Nerium Biotechnology, which is now based in Canada and which now has control of the manufacture of Anvirzel. I believe that Anvirzel is in the process of moving to the next phases of FDA trials. The original maker of Anvirzel, Ozelle Pharmaceuticals, stopped FDA trials after phase I due to running out of funds and inter-company conflicts. The capsule form of the herbal supplement, Sutherlandia OPC, has been mistakenly referred to several times here as a pill. It is not a pill, but rather a capsule. How's your dad? Has he headed to Cozumel yet? > > I wasn't aware that the trial was still ongoing......I thought they stopped after the first Phase? > > > > > May <luellamay129 > oleander soup > Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:08:21 AM > Re: Anvirzel in pill form how to order it from Anvirzel makers? > > > The pill version is undergoing trials right now at M D Anderson and is not readily available. It still has to go through the steps to be approved by the FDA. > > In the meantime, let me point you to Sutherlandia OPC. > > Sutherlandia OPC is a patented mixture of the two medicinal herbs Sutherlandia Frutescensand Nerium Oleander. Nerium Oleander is the very basis used for Anvirzel and Sutherlandia Frutescens is commonly referred to as the " cancer bush. " Both plants are known for their strong medicinal qualities. > > Hugs, > > > oleander soup, drKumar JK <drkumarj@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > May I know the name of the pill version from makers of Anvirzel?Wher to order the pills and cost e.t.c, > > Thanks, > > -Kumar > > > > --- On Thu, 6/26/08, bbanever bbanever@ wrote: > > > > bbanever bbanever@ > > Re: Oleander injections versus oral doses > > oleander soup > > Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony, > > > > Great, thanks for the reply. > > > > Bob > > - > > " Tony " > > > <oleander soup> > > Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:09 PM > > Oleander injections versus oral doses > > > > > It was originally believed that oleander needed to be injected; > > > however, the current makers of Anvirzel now say that taking it orally > > > is just as good. And they are working on a new pill form. > > > > > > I would suspect that taking it via injection would get a faster > > > reaction for that single dose - but, unlike an antibiotic or some > >! ; > o ther medications and conditions, oleander takes longer to work than > > > just one or two injections. The injection sites are frequently quite > > > painful after the shots too. > > > > > > > > > > > > oleander soup, " bbanever " bbanever@ .> wrote: > > >> > > >> Tony, > > >> > > >> I note that in many of these case histories the anvirzel was > > > given by injection, not orally. I wonder if there is a difference in > > > terms of patient response. > > >> > > >> Bob > > >> - > > >> > > >> oleander soup > > >> Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:30 PM > > >> Oleander medicine case reports > > >> > > >> > > >> Unknown to many people, a patented medicine version of oleander > > > extract named Anvirzel has been used outside the United States for > > > over 40 years. The man who re-discovered the age old oleander remedy > > > and developed Anvirzel is Doctor H Z Ozel. Since the medicine he used > > > is essentially the same as the home remedy version and the > > > Sutherlandia OPC supplement I thought it might be educational to list > > > links to some of his case histories: > > >> > > >> CASE REPORTS > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Mesothelioma - HD > > >> > > >> Adenocarcinoma (epithelial type malignant mesothelioma? ) - US > > >> Small cell anaplastic carcinoma in the lung -YG > > >> > > >> Malignant lymphoma, lung cancer - MG > > >> Prostate cancer with bone metastases - KE > > >> > > >> Pancreas cancer with bone metastases - SO > > >> Pancreas cancer - MH > > >> > > >> Periton! eal carc inosis - HA > > >> Inoperable stomach carcinoma with metastases -VO > > >> > > >> Brain tumor - AS > > >> Brain tumor - SD > > >> > > >> Breast cancer (Ductal carcinoma) - SE > > >> Antrum cancer - YT > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Source: http://www.drozel. org/eng/case_ reports.htm > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 ok - now I have it straight. thank you! He is doing good - They just got back from Cabo about a week ago and they had a great time! He seems to be feeling good and has a lot of energy. Just waiting for the next Pet Scan to know for sure. We will keep you posted! Courtney Tony oleander soup Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:50:38 PM Clearing up the confusion: Anvirzel in pill form oleander soup, Courtney Burk <cwb1212 > wrote:To the best of my knowledge:The previous makers of Aniverzel, Phoenix Biotech in San Antonio, aremaking a new pill form of oleander medicine and THAT is what is incurrent trials at MD Anderson. It is not Anvirzel, but rather uses adifferent extraction method (liquid carbon dioxide and micro-fineparticles of oleander) to extract a greater amount of oleandrin andstill retain all the other valuable supporting compounds. As far as Iknow, it has no operative name at this point in time.Not long ago,Phoenix spun off another company, Nerium Biotechnology,which is now based in Canada and which now has control of themanufacture of Anvirzel. I believe that Anvirzel is in the process ofmoving to the next phases of FDA trials. The original maker ofAnvirzel, Ozelle Pharmaceuticals, stopped FDA trials after phase I dueto running out of funds and inter-company conflicts.The capsule form of the herbal supplement, Sutherlandia OPC, has beenmistakenly referred to several times here as a pill. It is not apill, but rather a capsule.How's your dad? Has he headed to Cozumel yet?Tony>> I wasn't aware that the trial was still ongoing..... .I thought theystopped after the first Phase? > > > > > May <luellamay129@ ...>> oleander soup> Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:08:21 AM> Re: Anvirzel in pill form how to order itfrom Anvirzel makers?> > > The pill version is undergoing trials right now at M D Anderson andis not readily available. It still has to go through the steps to beapproved by the FDA.> > In the meantime, let me point you to Sutherlandia OPC.> > Sutherlandia OPC is a patented mixture of the two medicinal herbsSutherlandia Frutescensand Nerium Oleander. Nerium Oleander is thevery basis used for Anvirzel and Sutherlandia Frutescens is commonlyreferred to as the "cancer bush." Both plants are known for theirstrong medicinal qualities.> > Hugs,> > > oleander soup, drKumar JK <drkumarj@> wrote:> >> > Hi,> > May I know the name of the pill version from makers ofAnvirzel?Wher to order the pills and cost e.t.c,> > Thanks,> > -Kumar> > > > --- On Thu, 6/26/08, bbanever bbanever@ wrote:> > > > bbanever bbanever@> > Re: Oleander injections versus oral doses> > oleander soup> > Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:49 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tony,> > > > Great, thanks for the reply.> > > > Bob> > - > > "Tony" >> > <oleander soup>> > Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:09 PM> > Oleander injections versus oral doses> > > > > It was originally believed that oleander needed to be injected;> > > however, the current makers of Anvirzel now say that taking itorally> > > is just as good. And they are working on a new pill form.> > > > > > I would suspect that taking it via injection would get a faster> > > reaction for that single dose - but, unlike an antibiotic or some> >! ; > o ther medications and conditions, oleander takes longer towork than> > > just one or two injections. The injection sites are frequently quite> > > painful after the shots too.> > > > > > Tony> > > > > > oleander soup, "bbanever" bbanever@ .>wrote:> > >>> > >> Tony,> > >> > > >> I note that in many of these case histories the anvirzel was> > > given by injection, not orally. I wonder if there is a difference in> > > terms of patient response.> > >> > > >> Bob> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> Tony > > >> oleander soup > > >> Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:30 PM> > >> Oleander medicine case reports> > >> > > >> > > >> Unknown to many people, a patented medicine version of oleander> > > extract named Anvirzel has been used outside the United States for> > > over 40 years. The man who re-discovered the age old oleander remedy> > > and developed Anvirzel is Doctor H Z Ozel. Since the medicine heused> > > is essentially the same as the home remedy version and the> > > Sutherlandia OPC supplement I thought it might be educational tolist> > > links to some of his case histories:> > >> > > >> CASE REPORTS > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Mesothelioma - HD> > >> > > >> Adenocarcinoma (epithelial type malignant mesothelioma? ) - US > > >> Small cell anaplastic carcinoma in the lung -YG > > >> > > >> Malignant lymphoma, lung cancer - MG > > >> Prostate cancer with bone metastases - KE > > >> > > >> Pancreas cancer with bone metastases - SO > > >> Pancreas cancer - MH > > >> > > >> Periton! eal carc inosis - HA > > >> Inoperable stomach carcinoma with metastases -VO > > >> > > >> Brain tumor - AS > > >> Brain tumor - SD > > >> > > >> Breast cancer (Ductal carcinoma) - SE > > >> Antrum cancer - YT > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Source: http://www.drozel. org/eng/case_ reports.htm> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Hi ...I'm new here and just wondering if anyone knows someone that this Anvirzel has cured? What has helped/cured prostate cancer, could someone share more info, please? Thanks! ~Debbie ___________ Enjoy inside air as fresh as outside air just after a thunderstormwww.ecoquest.com/d3s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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