OPC or homemade soup that causes diarrhea needs additional filtering

[Guest guest]

It appears that you got some of the OPC that Marc had made by a local

herbalist who was not as careful with the filtering as he should have

been. All you need to do is take your remaining OPC and filter it

through a few layers of unbleached coffee filters and you should be fine.

 

Now all the OPC is made by a pharmaceutical manufacturing company to

very exact and consistent standards, including very fine filtration.

The herbalist was only used for a very short time when word of the

successes of the OPC caused demand to outstrip Marc's ability to make

the needed volume of OPC.

 

Early on there was some debate here in this group (imagine that!)

about the diarrhea and other relatively mild side effects (nausea,

mild headaches, mild fever being the most common) of home-made

" oleander soup " , which OPC modeled itself after.

 

I found that Anvirzel and oleander soup were made essentially the same

way, yet Anvirzel usually had few if any side effects and they were

always quite mild if present at all. The homemade " soup " on the other

hand frequently had side effects. Nothing earth shattering - but

loose stools (or outright diarrhea) were common, and the nausea,

headaches and fever a bit stronger. It should be noted that almost

everyone who had side effects usually adjusted to them fairly quickly

as they gradually worked their way up to the maximum dose. As a matter

of fact, adjusting to the side effects was a major reason for advising

that people begin with small doses and work their way up.

 

Since there was no similar doseage adjustment and no similar side

effects for Anvirzel, I decided to do a bit of research. What I found

was that there were some larger organic molecules still remaining in

the " soup " that were mostly to blame. Whereas Anvirzel was made using

medical filters of less than 4 microns, the people who were making the

soup mostly used a few layers of paper towels (and one notable group

member argued for using just a folded bath towel!).

 

I began telling people to use extra filtration and recommended a final

extra filtration using multiple layers of coffee filters. Though the

debate continued for awhile, those who used the extra filtration -

including my own 85 year old uncle - reported no or very mild side

effects, essentially the same as did Anvirzel users.

 

Now, it has been proven conclusively that filtration is the key.

Anyone who experiences prolonged bouts of diarrhea or other side

effects is advised to refilter their " soup " (or older OPC) using a few

unbleached coffee filters. It will probably be well worth the effort.

 

 

oleander soup , " sunlovernv " <Marcia_Grogan

wrote:

>

> I am new to the forum, so I hope I'm doing this right. My husband has

> non-hodgkins lymphoma and has been on the OPC liquid for about 4

> months. (I take it as a preventative measure). We started out taking 1

> tsp 3x day but it caused diarrhea in both of us, so I emailed Mark and

> he said to cut it down to 1 tsp 2x day. We have done this, but it

> still causes diarrhea.(watery!!) I don't believe we are allergic to

> it because our alternative doctor tested it on his machine and my

> husband's body tested positively for it, and we have an oleander bush

> right outside our bedroom and in all the years of cutting it and

> handling it, we've never had a problem. so I don't know what to do. I

> do not plan on stopping the oleander extract, I totally believe in it,

> but I'd like to know if anyone else has had this problem, and what

> they did for it. We have 2 bottles left of our original order, so

> next time we'll order the pills to see if our stomachs react better.

> Any suggestions? Thanks.

>

[Guest guest]

Tony: Thank you so much. I will filter it and see what happens. I

know it's not our diet--for a year and a half, our diet, cleanses,

etc. has been exactly as you describe in the " anti-cancer protocol " .

So the filtering has to be the answer. I'll try it and let you

know. Thanks again, Marcia---

 

In oleander soup , " Tony " wrote:

>

> It appears that you got some of the OPC that Marc had made by a

local

> herbalist who was not as careful with the filtering as he should

have

> been. All you need to do is take your remaining OPC and filter it

> through a few layers of unbleached coffee filters and you should

be fine.

>

> Now all the OPC is made by a pharmaceutical manufacturing company

to

> very exact and consistent standards, including very fine

filtration.

> The herbalist was only used for a very short time when word of the

> successes of the OPC caused demand to outstrip Marc's ability to

make

> the needed volume of OPC.

>

> Early on there was some debate here in this group (imagine that!)

> about the diarrhea and other relatively mild side effects (nausea,

> mild headaches, mild fever being the most common) of home-made

> " oleander soup " , which OPC modeled itself after.

>

> I found that Anvirzel and oleander soup were made essentially the

same

> way, yet Anvirzel usually had few if any side effects and they were

> always quite mild if present at all. The homemade " soup " on the

other

> hand frequently had side effects. Nothing earth shattering - but

> loose stools (or outright diarrhea) were common, and the nausea,

> headaches and fever a bit stronger. It should be noted that almost

> everyone who had side effects usually adjusted to them fairly

quickly

> as they gradually worked their way up to the maximum dose. As a

matter

> of fact, adjusting to the side effects was a major reason for

advising

> that people begin with small doses and work their way up.

>

> Since there was no similar doseage adjustment and no similar side

> effects for Anvirzel, I decided to do a bit of research. What I

found

> was that there were some larger organic molecules still remaining

in

> the " soup " that were mostly to blame. Whereas Anvirzel was made

using

> medical filters of less than 4 microns, the people who were making

the

> soup mostly used a few layers of paper towels (and one notable

group

> member argued for using just a folded bath towel!).

>

> I began telling people to use extra filtration and recommended a

final

> extra filtration using multiple layers of coffee filters. Though

the

> debate continued for awhile, those who used the extra filtration -

> including my own 85 year old uncle - reported no or very mild side

> effects, essentially the same as did Anvirzel users.

>

> Now, it has been proven conclusively that filtration is the key.

> Anyone who experiences prolonged bouts of diarrhea or other side

> effects is advised to refilter their " soup " (or older OPC) using a

few

> unbleached coffee filters. It will probably be well worth the

effort.

>

> >

> oleander soup , " sunlovernv " <Marcia_Grogan@>

> wrote:

> >

> > I am new to the forum, so I hope I'm doing this right. My

husband has

> > non-hodgkins lymphoma and has been on the OPC liquid for about 4

> > months. (I take it as a preventative measure). We started out

taking 1

> > tsp 3x day but it caused diarrhea in both of us, so I emailed

Mark and

> > he said to cut it down to 1 tsp 2x day. We have done this, but

it

> > still causes diarrhea.(watery!!) I don't believe we are

allergic to

> > it because our alternative doctor tested it on his machine and

my

> > husband's body tested positively for it, and we have an oleander

bush

> > right outside our bedroom and in all the years of cutting it and

> > handling it, we've never had a problem. so I don't know what to

do. I

> > do not plan on stopping the oleander extract, I totally believe

in it,

> > but I'd like to know if anyone else has had this problem, and

what

> > they did for it. We have 2 bottles left of our original order,

so

> > next time we'll order the pills to see if our stomachs react

better.

> > Any suggestions? Thanks.

> >

>