Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Hi, May I know the name of the pill version from makers of Anvirzel?Wher to order the pills and cost e.t.c, Thanks, -Kumar --- On Thu, 6/26/08, bbanever <bbanever wrote: bbanever <bbanever Re: Oleander injections versus oral doses oleander soup Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:49 AM Tony, Great, thanks for the reply. Bob - " Tony " > <oleander soup> Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:09 PM Oleander injections versus oral doses > It was originally believed that oleander needed to be injected; > however, the current makers of Anvirzel now say that taking it orally > is just as good. And they are working on a new pill form. > > I would suspect that taking it via injection would get a faster > reaction for that single dose - but, unlike an antibiotic or some > other medications and conditions, oleander takes longer to work than > just one or two injections. The injection sites are frequently quite > painful after the shots too. > > > > oleander soup, " bbanever " <bbanever@.. .> wrote: >> >> Tony, >> >> I note that in many of these case histories the anvirzel was > given by injection, not orally. I wonder if there is a difference in > terms of patient response. >> >> Bob >> - >> >> oleander soup >> Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:30 PM >> Oleander medicine case reports >> >> >> Unknown to many people, a patented medicine version of oleander > extract named Anvirzel has been used outside the United States for > over 40 years. The man who re-discovered the age old oleander remedy > and developed Anvirzel is Doctor H Z Ozel. Since the medicine he used > is essentially the same as the home remedy version and the > Sutherlandia OPC supplement I thought it might be educational to list > links to some of his case histories: >> >> CASE REPORTS >> >> >> >> Mesothelioma - HD >> >> Adenocarcinoma (epithelial type malignant mesothelioma? ) - US >> Small cell anaplastic carcinoma in the lung -YG >> >> Malignant lymphoma, lung cancer - MG >> Prostate cancer with bone metastases - KE >> >> Pancreas cancer with bone metastases - SO >> Pancreas cancer - MH >> >> Peritoneal carcinosis - HA >> Inoperable stomach carcinoma with metastases -VO >> >> Brain tumor - AS >> Brain tumor - SD >> >> Breast cancer (Ductal carcinoma) - SE >> Antrum cancer - YT >> >> >> >> >> Source: http://www.drozel. org/eng/case_ reports.htm >> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 The pill version is undergoing trials right now at M D Anderson and is not readily available. It still has to go through the steps to be approved by the FDA.In the meantime, let me point you to Sutherlandia OPC.Sutherlandia OPC is a patented mixture of the two medicinal herbs Sutherlandia Frutescens and Nerium Oleander. Nerium Oleander is the very basis used for Anvirzel and Sutherlandia Frutescens is commonly referred to as the "cancer bush." Both plants are known for their strong medicinal qualities.Hugs,oleander soup , drKumar JK <drkumarj wrote:>> Hi,> May I know the name of the pill version from makers of Anvirzel?Wher to order the pills and cost e.t.c,> Thanks,> -Kumar> > --- On Thu, 6/26/08, bbanever bbanever wrote:> > bbanever bbanever Re: Oleander injections versus oral doses> oleander soup > Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:49 AM> > > > > > > Tony,> > Great, thanks for the reply.> > Bob> - > "Tony" >> <oleander soup>> Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:09 PM> Oleander injections versus oral doses> > > It was originally believed that oleander needed to be injected;> > however, the current makers of Anvirzel now say that taking it orally> > is just as good. And they are working on a new pill form.> > > > I would suspect that taking it via injection would get a faster> > reaction for that single dose - but, unlike an antibiotic or some> > other medications and conditions, oleander takes longer to work than> > just one or two injections. The injection sites are frequently quite> > painful after the shots too.> > > > Tony> > > > oleander soup, "bbanever" bbanever@ .> wrote:> >>> >> Tony,> >> > >> I note that in many of these case histories the anvirzel was> > given by injection, not orally. I wonder if there is a difference in> > terms of patient response.> >> > >> Bob> >> - > >> Tony > >> oleander soup > >> Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:30 PM> >> Oleander medicine case reports> >> > >> > >> Unknown to many people, a patented medicine version of oleander> > extract named Anvirzel has been used outside the United States for> > over 40 years. The man who re-discovered the age old oleander remedy> > and developed Anvirzel is Doctor H Z Ozel. Since the medicine he used> > is essentially the same as the home remedy version and the> > Sutherlandia OPC supplement I thought it might be educational to list> > links to some of his case histories:> >> > >> CASE REPORTS > >> > >> > >> > >> Mesothelioma - HD> >> > >> Adenocarcinoma (epithelial type malignant mesothelioma? ) - US > >> Small cell anaplastic carcinoma in the lung -YG > >> > >> Malignant lymphoma, lung cancer - MG > >> Prostate cancer with bone metastases - KE > >> > >> Pancreas cancer with bone metastases - SO > >> Pancreas cancer - MH > >> > >> Peritoneal carcinosis - HA > >> Inoperable stomach carcinoma with metastases -VO > >> > >> Brain tumor - AS > >> Brain tumor - SD > >> > >> Breast cancer (Ductal carcinoma) - SE > >> Antrum cancer - YT > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Source: http://www.drozel. org/eng/case_ reports.htm> >>> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thanks . -Kumar--- On Thu, 6/26/08, May <luellamay129 wrote: May <luellamay129 Re: Anvirzel in pill form how to order it from Anvirzel makers?oleander soup Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 3:08 PM The pill version is undergoing trials right now at M D Anderson and is not readily available. It still has to go through the steps to be approved by the FDA.In the meantime, let me point you to Sutherlandia OPC.Sutherlandia OPC is a patented mixture of the two medicinal herbs Sutherlandia Frutescens and Nerium Oleander. Nerium Oleander is the very basis used for Anvirzel and Sutherlandia Frutescens is commonly referred to as the "cancer bush." Both plants are known for their strong medicinal qualities.Hugs,oleander soup, drKumar JK <drkumarj wrote:>> Hi,> May I know the name of the pill version from makers of Anvirzel?Wher to order the pills and cost e.t.c,> Thanks,> -Kumar> > --- On Thu, 6/26/08, bbanever bbanever wrote:> > bbanever bbanever Re: Oleander injections versus oral doses> oleander soup> Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:49 AM> > > > > > > Tony,> > Great, thanks for the reply.> > Bob> - > "Tony" >> <oleander soup>> Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:09 PM> Oleander injections versus oral doses> > > It was originally believed that oleander needed to be injected;> > however, the current makers of Anvirzel now say that taking it orally> > is just as good. And they are working on a new pill form.> > > > I would suspect that taking it via injection would get a faster> > reaction for that single dose - but, unlike an antibiotic or some> > other medications and conditions, oleander takes longer to work than> > just one or two injections. The injection sites are frequently quite> > painful after the shots too.> > > > Tony> > > > oleander soup, "bbanever" bbanever@ .> wrote:> >>> >> Tony,> >> > >> I note that in many of these case histories the anvirzel was> > given by injection, not orally. I wonder if there is a difference in> > terms of patient response.> >> > >> Bob> >> - > >> Tony > >> oleander soup > >> Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:30 PM> >> Oleander medicine case reports> >> > >> > >> Unknown to many people, a patented medicine version of oleander> > extract named Anvirzel has been used outside the United States for> > over 40 years. The man who re-discovered the age old oleander remedy> > and developed Anvirzel is Doctor H Z Ozel. Since the medicine he used> > is essentially the same as the home remedy version and the> > Sutherlandia OPC supplement I thought it might be educational to list> > links to some of his case histories:> >> > >> CASE REPORTS > >> > >> > >> > >> Mesothelioma - HD> >> > >> Adenocarcinoma (epithelial type malignant mesothelioma? ) - US > >> Small cell anaplastic carcinoma in the lung -YG > >> > >> Malignant lymphoma, lung cancer - MG > >> Prostate cancer with bone metastases - KE > >> > >> Pancreas cancer with bone metastases - SO > >> Pancreas cancer - MH > >> > >> Peritoneal carcinosis - HA > >> Inoperable stomach carcinoma with metastases -VO > >> > >> Brain tumor - AS > >> Brain tumor - SD > >> > >> Breast cancer (Ductal carcinoma) - SE > >> Antrum cancer - YT > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Source: http://www.drozel. org/eng/case_ reports.htm> >>> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I wasn't aware that the trial was still ongoing......I thought they stopped after the first Phase? May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:08:21 AM Re: Anvirzel in pill form how to order it from Anvirzel makers? The pill version is undergoing trials right now at M D Anderson and is not readily available. It still has to go through the steps to be approved by the FDA.In the meantime, let me point you to Sutherlandia OPC.Sutherlandia OPC is a patented mixture of the two medicinal herbs Sutherlandia Frutescens and Nerium Oleander. Nerium Oleander is the very basis used for Anvirzel and Sutherlandia Frutescens is commonly referred to as the "cancer bush." Both plants are known for their strong medicinal qualities.Hugs,oleander soup, drKumar JK <drkumarj wrote:>> Hi,> May I know the name of the pill version from makers of Anvirzel?Wher to order the pills and cost e.t.c,> Thanks,> -Kumar> > --- On Thu, 6/26/08, bbanever bbanever wrote:> > bbanever bbanever Re: Oleander injections versus oral doses> oleander soup> Thursday, June 26, 2008, 2:49 AM> > > > > > > Tony,> > Great, thanks for the reply.> > Bob> - > "Tony" >> <oleander soup>> Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:09 PM> Oleander injections versus oral doses> > > It was originally believed that oleander needed to be injected;> > however, the current makers of Anvirzel now say that taking it orally> > is just as good. And they are working on a new pill form.> > > > I would suspect that taking it via injection would get a faster> > reaction for that single dose - but, unlike an antibiotic or some>! ; > o ther medications and conditions, oleander takes longer to work than> > just one or two injections. The injection sites are frequently quite> > painful after the shots too.> > > > Tony> > > > oleander soup, "bbanever" bbanever@ .> wrote:> >>> >> Tony,> >> > >> I note that in many of these case histories the anvirzel was> > given by injection, not orally. I wonder if there is a difference in> > terms of patient response.> >> > >> Bob> >> - > >> Tony > >> oleander soup > >> Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:30 PM> >> Oleander medicine case reports> >> > >> > >> Unknown to many people, a patented medicine version of oleander> > extract named Anvirzel has been used outside the United States for> > over 40 years. The man who re-discovered the age old oleander remedy> > and developed Anvirzel is Doctor H Z Ozel. Since the medicine he used> > is essentially the same as the home remedy version and the> > Sutherlandia OPC supplement I thought it might be educational to list> > links to some of his case histories:> >> > >> CASE REPORTS > >> > >> > >> > >> Mesothelioma - HD> >> > >> Adenocarcinoma (epithelial type malignant mesothelioma? ) - US > >> Small cell anaplastic carcinoma in the lung -YG > >> > >> Malignant lymphoma, lung cancer - MG > >> Prostate cancer with bone metastases - KE > >> > >> Pancreas cancer with bone metastases - SO > >> Pancreas cancer - MH > >> > >> Periton! eal carc inosis - HA > >> Inoperable stomach carcinoma with metastases -VO > >> > >> Brain tumor - AS > >> Brain tumor - SD > >> > >> Breast cancer (Ductal carcinoma) - SE > >> Antrum cancer - YT > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Source: http://www.drozel. org/eng/case_ reports.htm> >>> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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