Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 As noted by Doctor Lanphier, you really should have a better diagnosis. Mainstream medicine excels in diagnoses and repair (and fails pretty badly when it comes to treating illness and chronic conditions). However, if it were me I would definitely try the OPC and also add some colloidal silver. That and an overall healthy diet and lifestyle that included cleansing and detoxing. I might note that I am NOT a fan of LDN. I will say that it appears to be one of the more effective DRUGS and appears to have fewer side effects than most. It is nevertheless a synthetic drug and it does have side effects - and when it comes to most cancers, HIV and hep-c it has proven to not be as effective as oleander. oleander soup , Helen Wang <dingyung49 wrote: > > Hi, > > I have been a member of our grouip for couple of weeks but seldom post. > > I posted my questions on other but did not get answer. Wondering any doctor in our group can explain my blood test results. > > I went to an immunologist due to chronic bone pain/hives. He gave me bunch of blood test.Somehow he did not like me asking question and just suggested allergy shots. Do you know what is test for complement C3, C4 for? The result of my C3 and C4 are below normal range. Does it mean I have some sort of autoimmuse disease. My SED rate and ANA are normal. I have been sufferring a lot of my wide spread bone soreness pain, muscle pain, vessel pain and hives attacks me daily out of no where. I could not stand still too long and If I walk long enough or fast enough I felt burning pain of my bone. All these ailments make me very tired. It took me much efforts just getting up to clean my place. I do not think I have lyme because I seldom outing in wilderness. I have been taking LDN for four months and there is no improvement. May be I should try OleanderOPC if I have immuse problem? Thanks your inputs. Helen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thank you Tony and Dr. Lanphier. I will discuss with my immunologist for any further tests. It is really a mystery illness to me. I am often drinking raw smoothies and just wondering are there some biotoxics or bad chemicals from the plants that hurting my body or my body allergic to it. Somehow I also developed Raynaud, which is added sufferings. My co-work just died from breast cancer last week. When I knew Oleander/LDN, she was already left the place I work and was heard doing aggressive chemo. My question is does Oleander can help cancer patients who are already on very late stages? I heard some real people's stories from LDN group. I don't see people in our Oleander group talking their cancer being helped by Oleander or I just miss it. All I knew are the stories from Tony's writings. I have few friends currently being afflicted with prostate cancer, breast cancer and skin cancers. I wish to help them but I need to study and research more about this wonderful plants. Thanks for listening. Helen Tony wrote: As noted by Doctor Lanphier, you really should have a betterdiagnosis. Mainstream medicine excels in diagnoses and repair (andfails pretty badly when it comes to treating illness and chronicconditions).However, if it were me I would definitely try the OPC and also addsome colloidal silver. That and an overall healthy diet and lifestylethat included cleansing and detoxing.I might note that I am NOT a fan of LDN. I will say that it appearsto be one of the more effective DRUGS and appears to have fewer sideeffects than most. It is nevertheless a synthetic drug and it doeshave side effects - and when it comes to most cancers, HIV and hep-cit has proven to not be as effective as oleander.Tonyoleander soup , Helen Wang <dingyung49 wrote:>> Hi,> > I have been a member of our grouip for couple of weeks butseldom post.> > I posted my questions on other but did not getanswer. Wondering any doctor in our group can explain my blood testresults.> > I went to an immunologist due to chronic bone pain/hives. Hegave me bunch of blood test.Somehow he did not like me asking questionand just suggested allergy shots. Do you know what is test forcomplement C3, C4 for? The result of my C3 and C4 are below normalrange. Does it mean I have some sort of autoimmuse disease. My SEDrate and ANA are normal. I have been sufferring a lot of my widespread bone soreness pain, muscle pain, vessel pain and hives attacksme daily out of no where. I could not stand still too long and If Iwalk long enough or fast enough I felt burning pain of my bone. Allthese ailments make me very tired. It took me much efforts justgetting up to clean my place. I do not think I have lyme because Iseldom outing in wilderness. I have been taking LDN for fourmonths and there is no improvement. May be I should try OleanderOPCif I have immuse problem? Thanks your inputs. Helen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Actually, there are a number of success stories to be found here if you go back and look all the way through the posts. And I just posted some case histories as well. Over half of the members here are pretty new. In time I am sure you will see many more success stories. What you do not see is stories of failure, and I think that says something itself. Marc Swanepoel has well over 100 success stories as well - all of the OPC patients who have taken the supplement except for only 8 (three were in their final days and unable to even hold down the supplement and five succumbed to major organ failure as a likely result of prior chemo). If you need to know more about oleander, go to this page and being reading " The Oleander Series " : /articles.htm I personally would choose oleander over any other cancer remedy, medicine or treatment. oleander soup , Helen Wang <dingyung49 wrote: > > Thank you Tony and Dr. Lanphier. I will discuss with my immunologist for any further tests. It is really a mystery illness to me. I am often drinking raw smoothies and just wondering are there some biotoxics or bad chemicals from the plants that hurting my body or my body allergic to it. Somehow I also developed Raynaud, which is added sufferings. > > My co-work just died from breast cancer last week. When I knew Oleander/LDN, she was already left the place I work and was heard doing aggressive chemo. My question is does Oleander can help cancer patients who are already on very late stages? I heard some real people's stories from LDN group. I don't see people in our Oleander group talking their cancer being helped by Oleander or I just miss it. All I knew are the stories from Tony's writings. I have few friends currently being afflicted with prostate cancer, breast cancer and skin cancers. I wish to help them but I need to study and research more about this wonderful plants. Thanks for listening. Helen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Hello Tony, I was just in the process of locating a dr to prescribe LDN for me... You say below that LDN has side effects, but I don't recall reading anything anywere about it having any side effects that last beyond the starting up period. temporary sleeplessness is the only one I recall. Please advise, Angel LDN and further blood tests Posted by: "Tony" Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:57 pm (PDT) As noted by Doctor Lanphier, you really should have a betterdiagnosis. Mainstream medicine excels in diagnoses and repair (andfails pretty badly when it comes to treating illness and chronicconditions).However, if it were me I would definitely try the OPC and also addsome colloidal silver. That and an overall healthy diet and lifestylethat included cleansing and detoxing.I might note that I am NOT a fan of LDN. I will say that it appearsto be one of the more effective DRUGS and appears to have fewer sideeffects than most. It is nevertheless a synthetic drug and it doeshave side effects - and when it comes to most cancers, HIV and hep-cit has proven to not be as effective as oleander.Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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