Soup doseage amounts and preservatives

[Guest guest]

First of all, the " soup " is based on the original patent for

Anvirzel - the oleander medicine that Doctor H. Z. Ozel had used and

perfected for almost 40 years at the time of the patent.

 

Secondly, the major ingredient in the " soup " is the cardiac glycoside

oleandrin (and there are a handful of other cardiac glycosides as

well). Oleandrin cross assays with digooxin/digitalis. Though the

amount in an individual dose is comparitively small, there IS

ulimately a threshold where it could become dangerous.

 

The strength of the home made version can vary widely. One

tablespoon is well within safe limits. I would personally not

recommend that anyon double it though.

 

On the other hand, Marc has worked carefully with his OPC for several

years now and he recommends doubling the dose for late stage and

aggressive cancers - so if I wanted to go stronger, that is what I

would do (use OPC or perhaps add a bit less than a full dose of OPC

to to a bit less than a full dose of " soup " ).

 

Why anyone would want to NOT preserve the homemade " soup " with vodka

or apple cider vinegar is beyond me! It is an organio extract and it

WILL spoil unless preserved. I would not even guess at the shelf

life of unpreserved " soup " - to do so is asking for trouble.

 

 

oleander soup , " Gaiacita " <gaiacita wrote:

>

> Not arguing, but wondering why not? What would be the reason

behind not

> taking more? Too much stimulation? Harmful in the long run?

Never tested

> as to bigger doses? Or maybe it showed the amount we take is just

as good

> as bigger doses, or doses more often?

>

> Just always curious.

>

> Samala,

> Renee

>

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>

> As for biger dose of the soup? NO

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tony. This answer my questions as to why not use larger doses. Makes sense. I did not understand the constituents in the soup, that could be over dosed on.

 

As I said about preserving it--I wanted to give it plain to my old dog. But, I can use the vinegar. I had thought when I first joined that someone said unpreserved was good for 6 months or more, so I thought I could give him this batch that way. As I just made a small batch yesterday, for him, I was going to use it unpreserved. But now that I know it does not keep, that I must have been dreaming about that 6 month thing, I will add vinegar to it. I don't want to give him alcohol is all. He can have the vinegar though.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

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Secondly, the major ingredient in the "soup" is the cardiac glycoside

oleandrin (and there are a handful of other cardiac glycosides as

well). Oleandrin cross assays with digooxin/digitalis. Though the

amount in an individual dose is comparitively small, there IS

ulimately a threshold where it could become dangerous.

 

The strength of the home made version can vary widely. One

tablespoon is well within safe limits. I would personally not

recommend that anyon double it though.

 

Why anyone would want to NOT preserve the homemade "soup" with vodka

or apple cider vinegar is beyond me! It is an organio extract and it

WILL spoil unless preserved. I would not even guess at the shelf

life of unpreserved "soup" - to do so is asking for trouble.