Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 what about for acid indigestion? My husband swallows Tums like crazy. It has calcium carbonate, which is cheep ground up oyster shells from china. i think the bob's aluminum free baking soda is better. Am I wrong?? - Mike Golden oleander soup Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:53 PM Re: sodium bicarbonate/maple syrup There are no people walking around with a systemic pH 5 or 6, so I'll assume your talking only about urinary pH. My point is you do not have to raise your urine pH. You just have to eat a healthful diet. Many foods that produce alkaline urine are healthful. Many foods that produce an acidic urine are also healthful. In fact, you would be hard pressed to stay healthy if you avoided foods that temporarily acidified the urine.Sick people sometimes may have urinary pH that is extreme in one direction or the other. This is an effect, not a cause. Urinary alkaline pH is not a sign of health. Taking baking soda and other alkaline materials to see that change in the urine is not a good idea. The body is trying to dump the excess alkalinity. It is, on the other hand, always prudent to maintain a good diet, no matter what urinary pH in which it results. People, please don't take baking soda. It's not food. It also has a whopping load of sodium.Mike Gaiacita <gaiacita >oleander soup Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:32:32 PMRe: sodium bicarbonate/maple syrup Yep, Mike. I know all that. But many people have a hard time getting their ph up--and when it is very low, in the low 6's or even the 5's I DO believe it is important to have more alkaline urine. And many people who have low ph urine find it hard to raise their ph. So if this simple method works, that is a good thing to know. Samala, Renee -- -- Obviously you'll find a lot of discussion about this whole pH thing on the internet. The pH of your urine is simply your bodies way of regulating pH in the rest of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 I would not use Tums if you paid me. I would use baking soda as first aid only. Almost no one has hyperacidity. Most people, particularly as they age make too little stomach acid. Any burning sensations are a result of insufficiently acidified food sitting around in the stomach too long. Baking soda will give temporary relief, but is not good in the long run. Use of antacid can give Helicobacter pylori an opportunity to get a foothold resulting in the sequence of gastritis, ulcer and, ultimately, stomach cancer. It is better to give a little HCl, particularly with high protein meals to acidify the stomach. In a mild case even cider vinegar can help a bit. You can give herbal bitters along with this, which will stimulate the oxyntic cells to produce more acid. This way you can eventually wean off the HCl.Stomach acid is a big player in keeping the pH of the body balanced. You can be in trouble if your stomach is not acidic enough.Mikeyahsway <Yahswayoleander soup Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:22:51 AMRe: Acid Indigestion and baking sodawhat about for acid indigestion? My husband swallows Tums like crazy. It has calcium carbonate, which is cheep ground up oyster shells from china. i think the bob's aluminum free baking soda is better. Am I wrong?? - Mike Golden oleander soup Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:53 PMRe: sodium bicarbonate/ maple syrupThere are no people walking around with a systemic pH 5 or 6, so I'll assume your talking only about urinary pH. My point is you do not have to raise your urine pH. You just have to eat a healthful diet. Many foods that produce alkaline urine are healthful. Many foods that produce an acidic urine are also healthful. In fact, you would be hard pressed to stay healthy if you avoided foods that temporarily acidified the urine.Sick people sometimes may have urinary pH that is extreme in one direction or the other. This is an effect, not a cause. Urinary alkaline pH is not a sign of health. Taking baking soda and other alkaline materials to see that change in the urine is not a good idea. The body is trying to dump the excess alkalinity. It is, on the other hand, always prudent to maintain a good diet, no matter what urinary pH in which it results. People, please don't take baking soda. It's not food. It also has a whopping load of sodium.MikeGaiacita <gaiacita (AT) gmail (DOT) com>oleander soupTuesday, June 17, 2008 6:32:32 PMRe: sodium bicarbonate/ maple syrupYep, Mike. I know all that. But many people have a hard time getting their ph up--and when it is very low, in the low 6's or even the 5's I DO believe it is important to have more alkaline urine. And many people who have low ph urine find it hard to raise their ph. So if this simple method works, that is a good thing to know. Samala,Renee -- -- Obviously you'll find a lot of discussion about this whole pH thing on the internet. The pH of your urine is simply your bodies way of regulating pH in the rest of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Good question. Is it true that more people suffer from a LACK of hydrochloric acid? Reflux means that the acid is belched into the oesophagus, where it burns. It's just in the wrong place. We found that enzymes stopped this in my dh. We NEED the acid in the stomach. Does anyone know what happens if the stomach acid is neutralised? Does it prevent proper digestion? Another thing - I once used a baking soda powder deodorant and got a rash. Thought it might be one of the essential oils that were used to perfume it, so when the rash healed I just used the soda - still broke out. Now I just use colloidal silver. I thought the skin has an acid mantle. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks. MaracujaJoin the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign! ----- Forwarded Message ----yahsway <Yahswayoleander soup Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:22:51 PMRe: Acid Indigestion and baking soda what about for acid indigestion? My husband swallows Tums like crazy. It has calcium carbonate, which is cheep ground up oyster shells from china. i think the bob's aluminum free baking soda is better. Am I wrong?? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Maracuja <howdurdagooleander soup Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:01:52 PM Re: Acid Indigestion and baking soda Good question. Is it true that more people suffer from a LACK of hydrochloric acid?.......yes Reflux means that the acid is belched into the oesophagus, where it burns. It's just in the wrong place. We found that enzymes stopped this in my dh. We NEED the acid in the stomach. Does anyone know what happens if the stomach acid is neutralised? Does it prevent proper digestion?........yes and you can get bacterial colonization by Helicobacter pylori which causes gastritis, gastric ulcers and stomach cancer. Another thing - I once used a baking soda powder deodorant and got a rash. Thought it might be one of the essential oils that were used to perfume it, so when the rash healed I just used the soda - still broke out. Now I just use colloidal silver. I thought the skin has an acid mantle. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks.....yes, the skin has an acid mantlr which protescts it. You neutralize it when you use baking soda like that.Mike. _MikeMM,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Maracuja about the deodorant, i havent heard about soda poweder but i use crystal stick, no perfumes- no aluminium- no alcohol no nothing harmful and frendly on sensitive skins, its made from natural mineral compositions and is water soluble, you just moist the stick with water and apply under arms, and it last for 12 months. The name is Crystal stick, and you can find it at heath food stores. Hope this helps you. Hugs Mary - Maracuja oleander soup Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:01 AM Re: Acid Indigestion and baking soda Good question. Is it true that more people suffer from a LACK of hydrochloric acid? Reflux means that the acid is belched into the oesophagus, where it burns. It's just in the wrong place. We found that enzymes stopped this in my dh. We NEED the acid in the stomach. Does anyone know what happens if the stomach acid is neutralised? Does it prevent proper digestion? Another thing - I once used a baking soda powder deodorant and got a rash. Thought it might be one of the essential oils that were used to perfume it, so when the rash healed I just used the soda - still broke out. Now I just use colloidal silver. I thought the skin has an acid mantle. Does anyone know for sure? Thanks. MaracujaJoin the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign! ----- Forwarded Message ----yahsway <Yahsway (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soup Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:22:51 PMRe: Acid Indigestion and baking soda what about for acid indigestion? My husband swallows Tums like crazy. It has calcium carbonate, which is cheep ground up oyster shells from china. i think the bob's aluminum free baking soda is better. Am I wrong?? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 1) 8-ounce glass of distilled water with 1 teaspoon of organic apple-cider vinegar 15 minutes before each meal. Can add a bit of raw honey. 2) Digestive enzymes taken at least 20 minutes before the meal. 3) HCL – begin with 1 before each meal can add more, if no burning sensation is felt. If stomach burns then you do not need HCL. 4) Chew your food – this does wonders for digestion. 5) Do not lie down right after eating or drinking – In fact, a walk after each meal helps with digestion. 6) If you have gallbladder concerns or do not have a gallbladder, take Cholacol before every meal. 7) Cleanse your digestive tract and gallbladder frequently. Be Well Loretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Dr. Lanphier, I'd like to add that umeboshi plums (fermented, pickled Japanese plums) are extremely beneficial for digestion. Not only are they chock full of enzymes and beneficial bacteria, but they neutralize almost any toxic substance you might have ingested. I've used them on several occasions, taking one right after a meal. Works every time.... no indigestion and the food seems to go through you in half the time it normally would. Bob - Dr. Loretta Lanphier oleander soup Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:45 PM RE: Acid Indigestion and baking soda 1) 8-ounce glass of distilled water with 1 teaspoon of organic apple-cider vinegar 15 minutes before each meal. Can add a bit of raw honey. 2) Digestive enzymes taken at least 20 minutes before the meal. 3) HCL – begin with 1 before each meal can add more, if no burning sensation is felt. If stomach burns then you do not need HCL. 4) Chew your food – this does wonders for digestion. 5) Do not lie down right after eating or drinking – In fact, a walk after each meal helps with digestion. 6) If you have gallbladder concerns or do not have a gallbladder, take Cholacol before every meal. 7) Cleanse your digestive tract and gallbladder frequently. Be WellLoretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 I'm with you on the umeboshi plums Bob, also they are very alkaline and good for you, but very expencive i paid for 100gm dried plums $ 13 Australian bucks. Hugs Mary - bbanever oleander soup Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:21 PM Re: Acid Indigestion and baking soda Dr. Lanphier, I'd like to add that umeboshi plums (fermented, pickled Japanese plums) are extremely beneficial for digestion. Not only are they chock full of enzymes and beneficial bacteria, but they neutralize almost any toxic substance you might have ingested. I've used them on several occasions, taking one right after a meal. Works every time.... no indigestion and the food seems to go through you in half the time it normally would. Bob - Dr. Loretta Lanphier oleander soup Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:45 PM RE: Acid Indigestion and baking soda 1) 8-ounce glass of distilled water with 1 teaspoon of organic apple-cider vinegar 15 minutes before each meal. Can add a bit of raw honey. 2) Digestive enzymes taken at least 20 minutes before the meal. 3) HCL – begin with 1 before each meal can add more, if no burning sensation is felt. If stomach burns then you do not need HCL. 4) Chew your food – this does wonders for digestion. 5) Do not lie down right after eating or drinking – In fact, a walk after each meal helps with digestion. 6) If you have gallbladder concerns or do not have a gallbladder, take Cholacol before every meal. 7) Cleanse your digestive tract and gallbladder frequently. Be WellLoretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Thanks for all those answers. I thought perhaps I was barking up the wrong tree! I once went to a naturopath who prescribed a Vit C supplement with BS. I just couldn't take it. I was foaming at the mouth! Erk! Just as well, as I don't want any colonies of H pylori. My father had a megatropolis rather than a colony & he was given 2 antibiotics and bismuth to get rid of it. Effervescently, Maracuja Join the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign! Mike Golden <goldenmike86oleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:08:55 PMRe: Re: Acid Indigestion and baking soda Recent Activity 21 New Members 1 New PhotosVisit Your Group Health Healthy Aging Improve your quality of life. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Drive Traffic Sponsored Search can help increase your site traffic. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Thank you for all that information! We've used all except the HCl. Dh is adamant he won't do the gallbladder flush again so I make sure he has plenty of fresh juiced apples and radishes, both of which he likes. Apparently, they help soften any stones. He also drinks lemon juice & water sweetened with unprocessed maple syrup or manuka honey. However he has always had the loudest belches - they sound almost painful. No hiatus hernia, no indigestion pain. He was sick as a dog with the olive oil. The rest of us were OK, no problems at all but dh has got to be the most unadventurous man dietwise, let alone doing the flush. Also I think the resistance in his head regarding olive oil, led to the illness. He got ribbed by his sons! He eats olive oil now but he used to eat horrible bottled salad dressings and mayonnaise full of chemicals.. We have the most beautiful fresh pure virgin "organic" oil. I mix it with apple cider vinegar [mother included] manuka honey and various herbs or spices. We eat greens and "weeds" every day. He used to remove skim cancers from the backs of his hands with a mixture of acetic acid, water and glycerin, but I didn't agree with this, as it was treating an external symptom rather than the underlying cause. Perhaps one of the most beneficial things he has done is take selenium, as our soils are deficient. A black growth on his chest has disappeared and one on his shoulder has flattened and shrunk. One big one on his leg is now only about 1cm long - it used to be about 5cms on the surface but could be seen extending further than this, under the skin. Because we can see them disappearing, we know that if there is anything going on inside, it also will be shrinking. He will noy have them biopsied which is probably wise. When his prostate started niggling and he began getting deep abdominal pain, he didn't bother seeing a doctor, he just got onto coffee enemas and drank more veg juice. He also used more food grade H2O2. We used it anyway, in our drinking water - rainwater. The rest of us do the gallbladder cleanse 4x pa. Is that enough? My ddl is breast-feeding - she is gluten & dairy free and she is very gradually adding foods to my grandson's diet - he is 16 mths now - because of so many allergies in the family and a few rellies with coeliac disease. [They have died of liver cancer!] She hasn't done the flush at all while bf, nor since the month before she became pregnant. I have not been able to find unsprayed oleanders yet.. The ones I have seen growing are in traffic pollution. They are readily available in garden shops, but are sprayed. I'm still looking at peoples' gardens in the hope of seeing one and asking for a cutting - the secateurs stay in my bag, just in case. Thanks so much for all the information that everyone so willingly shares. You are all wonderful. All the best, Maracuja Join the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign! Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphieroleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:45:46 PMRE: Acid Indigestion and baking soda 1) 8-ounce glass of distilled water with 1 teaspoon of organic apple-cider vinegar 15 minutes before each meal. Can add a bit of raw honey. 2) Digestive enzymes taken at least 20 minutes before the meal.. 3) HCL – begin with 1 before each meal can add more, if no burning sensation is felt. If stomach burns then you do not need HCL. 4) Chew your food – this does wonders for digestion. 5) Do not lie down right after eating or drinking – In fact, a walk after each meal helps with digestion.. 6) If you have gallbladder concerns or do not have a gallbladder, take Cholacol before every meal. 7) Cleanse your digestive tract and gallbladder frequently. Be WellLoretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Hi Loretta, That info is helpful. I am just curious about what you would suggest if I do not have an appendix. Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Hi Maracuja. For the oleander, if you have a freecycle group in your area you should join it, and then ask on there for some oleander cuttings. I did and got 4 or 5 responses from people to come and get all I wanted. If you don't have a group, then what I have done in the past for other things is drive around and find a yard that has lots of the plants I want. Then I go up to the house and say "oh, I was driving by and saw all your beautiful plants. I'd love to have them growing in my yard too. If you ever do any thinning, could I give you my phone number and I'd come and help you thin them so I could get some plants". Just about every time people have said "well, you could take a few now if you want to dig them up". ;-) For the oleander if you say you want them for cancer medicine most people would be willing to let you cut them right then, especially when they have a couple of the bushes. Many people prune them anyway here, and know how quickly they regrow, so don't have a problem with giving you some cuttings anytime. Takes a bit of nerve to do this asking the first time, but when you find out how willing people are to share their plants, because they love them and now you love them, it gets easy. But with freecycle you don't have to beg at anyone's home. You just post the request and people write you back and say "come and get them". Nice! Samala, Renee ---- I'm still looking at peoples' gardens in the hope of seeing one and asking for a cutting - the secateurs stay in my bag, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Thank you for that useful tip Renee. Haha! I have no problem asking! Cheeky as...! and people have come to my door to ask for cuttings of plants and we have made friends in our neighbourhood this way. I may need to start an organic garden club in our area. We don't have a freecycle group, so that might be worth starting too! I can put a notice in our local post shop. Thanks again, MaracujaJoin the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign! Gaiacita <gaiacitaoleander soup Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:58:26 AMRe: Acid Indigestion and baking soda Hi Maracuja. For the oleander, if you have a freecycle group in your area you should join it, and then ask on there for some oleander cuttings. I did and got 4 or 5 responses from people to come and get all I wanted. If you don't have a group, then what I have done in the past for other things is drive around and find a yard that has lots of the plants I want. Then I go up to the house and say "oh, I was driving by and saw all your beautiful plants. I'd love to have them growing in my yard too. If you ever do any thinning, could I give you my phone number and I'd come and help you thin them so I could get some plants". Just about every time people have said "well, you could take a few now if you want to dig them up". ;-) For the oleander if you say you want them for cancer medicine most people would be willing to let you cut them right then, especially when they have a couple of the bushes. Many people prune them anyway here, and know how quickly they regrow, so don't have a problem with giving you some cuttings anytime. Takes a bit of nerve to do this asking the first time, but when you find out how willing people are to share their plants, because they love them and now you love them, it gets easy. But with freecycle you don't have to beg at anyone's home. You just post the request and people write you back and say "come and get them". Nice! Samala, Renee -- -- I'm still looking at peoples' gardens in the hope of seeing one and asking for a cutting - the secateurs stay in my bag, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Freecycle is very easy to start. If you go to www.freecycle.org and look at your state and then you can see if there are any close by you. If not, they have step by step directions on starting your own group. Then you notify your local paper about the group and they will usually do a write up about how freecycle works and that you are starting a group. This is a great way to get members. And you will also be listed on the freecycle web site so anyone in your area will see that and join you. You simply set up a . Easy! I wound up with over 700 members in 3 years before I turned the group over to someone else. A local organic garden club is a terrific idea, too. Samala, Renee ---- And people have come to my door to ask for cuttings of plants and we have made friends in our neighbourhood this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Hi Dr. Loretta, Just a question. Why is it that when i take water with a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar, i have very bad cystitis/urinary tract infection coupled with bleeding when i urinate and, that it is only remedied by taking Bextra (one pill will remove the pain overnight) and antibiotics. This has happened twice to me. However, if i take lemon with water, it does not happen to me. I also have acid reflux. Are they related? Thanks. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2008 Report Share Posted June 19, 2008 Heavy Tums use usually indicates a deep problem. My grandmother ate Tums like candy and we didn't know it until it was too late. Later she was diagnosed with esophagus cancer. Apparently she had been eating them like crazy for sometime and kept it hidden. After she died we cleaned out her home, we found huge bottles of Tum's in every cupboard and elsewhere put away throughout the house so no one knew what was going on. It was very sad for us. Tammatha - Mike Golden oleander soup Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:52 PM Re: Acid Indigestion and baking soda I would not use Tums if you paid me. I would use baking soda as first aid only. Almost no one has hyperacidity. Most people, particularly as they age make too little stomach acid. Any burning sensations are a result of insufficiently acidified food sitting around in the stomach too long. Baking soda will give temporary relief, but is not good in the long run. Use of antacid can give Helicobacter pylori an opportunity to get a foothold resulting in the sequence of gastritis, ulcer and, ultimately, stomach cancer. It is better to give a little HCl, particularly with high protein meals to acidify the stomach. In a mild case even cider vinegar can help a bit. You can give herbal bitters along with this, which will stimulate the oxyntic cells to produce more acid. This way you can eventually wean off the HCl.Stomach acid is a big player in keeping the pH of the body balanced. You can be in trouble if your stomach is not acidic enough.Mike yahsway <Yahsway (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soup Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:22:51 AMRe: Acid Indigestion and baking soda what about for acid indigestion? My husband swallows Tums like crazy. It has calcium carbonate, which is cheep ground up oyster shells from china. i think the bob's aluminum free baking soda is better. Am I wrong?? - Mike Golden oleander soup Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:53 PM Re: sodium bicarbonate/ maple syrup There are no people walking around with a systemic pH 5 or 6, so I'll assume your talking only about urinary pH. My point is you do not have to raise your urine pH. You just have to eat a healthful diet. Many foods that produce alkaline urine are healthful. Many foods that produce an acidic urine are also healthful. In fact, you would be hard pressed to stay healthy if you avoided foods that temporarily acidified the urine.Sick people sometimes may have urinary pH that is extreme in one direction or the other. This is an effect, not a cause. Urinary alkaline pH is not a sign of health. Taking baking soda and other alkaline materials to see that change in the urine is not a good idea. The body is trying to dump the excess alkalinity. It is, on the other hand, always prudent to maintain a good diet, no matter what urinary pH in which it results. People, please don't take baking soda. It's not food. It also has a whopping load of sodium.Mike Gaiacita <gaiacita (AT) gmail (DOT) com>oleander soupTuesday, June 17, 2008 6:32:32 PMRe: sodium bicarbonate/ maple syrup Yep, Mike. I know all that. But many people have a hard time getting their ph up--and when it is very low, in the low 6's or even the 5's I DO believe it is important to have more alkaline urine. And many people who have low ph urine find it hard to raise their ph. So if this simple method works, that is a good thing to know. Samala, Renee -- -- Obviously you'll find a lot of discussion about this whole pH thing on the internet. The pH of your urine is simply your bodies way of regulating pH in the rest of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 How/when do you measure the ph? do you do a saliva test or a urine test or what? Angel - Mike Golden oleander soup Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:53 PMRe: sodium bicarbonate/maple syrupThere are no people walking around with a systemic pH 5 or 6, so I'll assume your talking only about urinary pH. My point is you do not have to raise your urine pH. You just have to eat a healthful diet. Many foods that produce alkaline urine are healthful. Many foods that produce an acidic urine are also healthful. In fact, you would be hard pressed to stay healthy if you avoided foods that temporarily acidified the urine.Sick people sometimes may have urinary pH that is extreme in one direction or the other. This is an effect, not a cause. Urinary alkaline pH is not a sign of health. Taking baking soda and other alkaline materials to see that change in the urine is not a good idea. The body is trying to dump the excess alkalinity. It is, on the other hand, always prudent to maintain a good diet, no matter what urinary pH in which it results. People, please don't take baking soda. It's not food. It also has a whopping load of sodium.Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hi Angel, You can get ph testing strips and test your urine. You can come across these quite easily at some health food stores or even at a store that sells pool supplies. I believe the proper level you want is 7.0. There is also a way to test your saliva, although I am not sure of the procedure. Hugs, oleander soup , <toreadpeoplehealthinfo wrote: > > How/when do you measure the ph? do you do a saliva test or a urine test or what? > > Angel > > > > > - > Mike Golden > oleander soup > Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:53 PM > Re: sodium bicarbonate/maple syrup > > There are no people walking around with a systemic pH 5 or 6, so I'll assume your talking only about urinary pH. My point is you do not have to raise your urine pH. You just have to eat a healthful diet. Many foods that produce alkaline urine are healthful. Many foods that produce an acidic urine are also healthful. In fact, you would be hard pressed to stay healthy if you avoided foods that temporarily acidified the urine. > Sick people sometimes may have urinary pH that is extreme in one direction or the other. This is an effect, not a cause. Urinary alkaline pH is not a sign of health. Taking baking soda and other alkaline materials to see that change in the urine is not a good idea. The body is trying to dump the excess alkalinity. It is, on the other hand, always prudent to maintain a good diet, no matter what urinary pH in which it results. People, please don't take baking soda. It's not food. It also has a whopping load of sodium. > > Mike > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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