Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Does anyone know how toxic roundup is? Thanks, Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Not very. You would have to drink it and miss your esophagus, getting it down your windpipe to do damage; in that case you would suffocate. You can swallow it w/o harmful effects. It breaks down quickly in water. It is related to sugars and alcohols. It almost is deserving of the "organic" label. It does not poison plants!!! It stimulates them to grow much faster than they can possibly handle; they grow themselves to death. Information about RoundUp is from Malcolm Beck, a long-time organic farmer and originator of the Gardenville nurseries and compost sellers. He is consultant to Texas A & M and UT San Antonio.Dr. Goebel--- On Mon, 6/16/08, robyn howell <robynehowell wrote:robyn howell <robynehowellRe: Roundup toxicityoleander soup Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:58 AM Does anyone know how toxic roundup is? Thanks, Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Very! I would not use any pesticides, especially if I already had a compromised immune system. Not to mention it's made by Monsanto, a despicable corporation making gmo nightmares all over the world. http://www.naturescountrystore.com/roundup/ Nonie Does anyone know how toxic roundup is? Thanks, Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I’m sorry but I totally disagree. It is not safe and Monsanto has a track record for lying and then coming back and saying “oops, sorry.” If your friend is “organic” gardening and using Round-Up then he is not growing organically. Called the wonder herbicide, RoundUp is one of the top-selling herbicides. Made by Monsanto, it is now used on plants that have been genetically engineered to tolerate RoundUp without dying. This means: Higher residues of RoundUp in our food chain Over 90 percent of soy and canola in our food chain are 'RoundUp Ready' genetically engineered to withstand large quantities of RoundUp Increased RoundUp usage by farmers More danger to the public RoundUp Herbicide has been touted by its maker, Monsanto, as safe and environmentally friendly. As such, it has become the most popular herbicide in use today. Advertising by Monsanto has led the public to believe that RoundUp is " safe as table salt, " a phrase used quite often by its proponents to describe it. Studies used for RoundUp's initial registration were fraudulent. There is no indication that these studies have been replaced with other, more valid, studies. The public perception of RoundUp as safe, environmentally friendly, and no more harmful than table salt has impeded the normal scientific study to which a pesticide would normally be subjected. Research grants have been concentrated in the areas of pesticides perceived to be more detrimental to humans. New York State's Attorney General has sued Monsanto for claiming that RoundUp is " safe " and " environmentally friendly. " This suit ended in a settlement with Monsanto in which Monsanto agreed to cease and desist from using these terms in advertising RoundUp in the state of New York. Monsanto, while not admitting any wrongdoing, paid the state of New York $250,000 in settlement of this suit. When Monsanto violated the first settlement agreement by advertising within New York that RoundUp is " safe, " a second agreement was negotiated. Most of the studies identifying RoundUp's true toxicity are recent, and certain areas of RoundUp's toxicity have yet to be thoroughly studied. Case law involving RoundUp victims is almost non-existent due to this lack of scientific information with which to prove causation. It is for these reasons that it is important to also look to anecdotal information about RoundUp's toxicity to humans in order to develop a full picture of the symptomology it causes. http://www.naturescountrystore.com/roundup/ http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4574.cfm Warm Regards~ Loretta oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Michael Goebel Monday, June 16, 2008 2:29 PM oleander soup Cc: Malcolm Beck Re: Roundup toxicity Not very. You would have to drink it and miss your esophagus, getting it down your windpipe to do damage; in that case you would suffocate. You can swallow it w/o harmful effects. It breaks down quickly in water. It is related to sugars and alcohols. It almost is deserving of the " organic " label. It does not poison plants!!! It stimulates them to grow much faster than they can possibly handle; they grow themselves to death. Information about RoundUp is from Malcolm Beck, a long-time organic farmer and originator of the Gardenville nurseries and compost sellers. He is consultant to Texas A & M and UT San Antonio. Dr. Goebel --- On Mon, 6/16/08, robyn howell <robynehowell wrote: robyn howell <robynehowell Re: Roundup toxicity oleander soup Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:58 AM Does anyone know how toxic roundup is? Thanks, Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I understand that it decomposes to inert ingredients within 24 hours. I use it - but not in or near my vegetable garden. Corky - robyn howell oleander soup Monday, June 16, 2008 11:58 AM Re: Roundup toxicity Does anyone know how toxic roundup is? Thanks, Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I’m sorry but I totally disagree. It is not safe and Monsanto has a track record for lying and then coming back and saying “oops, sorry.” If your friend is “organic” gardening and using Round-Up then he is not growing organically. Called the wonder herbicide, RoundUp is one of the top-selling herbicides. Made by Monsanto, it is now used on plants that have been genetically engineered to tolerate RoundUp without dying. This means: Higher residues of RoundUp in our food chain Over 90 percent of soy and canola in our food chain are 'RoundUp Ready' genetically engineered to withstand large quantities of RoundUp Increased RoundUp usage by farmers More danger to the public RoundUp Herbicide has been touted by its maker, Monsanto, as safe and environmentally friendly. As such, it has become the most popular herbicide in use today. Advertising by Monsanto has led the public to believe that RoundUp is " safe as table salt, " a phrase used quite often by its proponents to describe it. Studies used for RoundUp's initial registration were fraudulent. There is no indication that these studies have been replaced with other, more valid, studies. The public perception of RoundUp as safe, environmentally friendly, and no more harmful than table salt has impeded the normal scientific study to which a pesticide would normally be subjected. Research grants have been concentrated in the areas of pesticides perceived to be more detrimental to humans. New York State's Attorney General has sued Monsanto for claiming that RoundUp is " safe " and " environmentally friendly. " This suit ended in a settlement with Monsanto in which Monsanto agreed to cease and desist from using these terms in advertising RoundUp in the state of New York. Monsanto, while not admitting any wrongdoing, paid the state of New York $250,000 in settlement of this suit. When Monsanto violated the first settlement agreement by advertising within New York that RoundUp is " safe, " a second agreement was negotiated. Most of the studies identifying RoundUp's true toxicity are recent, and certain areas of RoundUp's toxicity have yet to be thoroughly studied. Case law involving RoundUp victims is almost non-existent due to this lack of scientific information with which to prove causation. It is for these reasons that it is important to also look to anecdotal information about RoundUp's toxicity to humans in order to develop a full picture of the symptomology it causes. http://www.naturescountrystore.com/roundup/ http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4574.cfm http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/the-world-according-to-monsanto-a-documentary-that-americans-wont-ever-see-full-video/ - Watch the video “The World According to Monsanto” Warm Regards~ Loretta oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Michael Goebel Monday, June 16, 2008 2:29 PM oleander soup Cc: Malcolm Beck Re: Roundup toxicity Not very. You would have to drink it and miss your esophagus, getting it down your windpipe to do damage; in that case you would suffocate. You can swallow it w/o harmful effects. It breaks down quickly in water. It is related to sugars and alcohols. It almost is deserving of the " organic " label. It does not poison plants!!! It stimulates them to grow much faster than they can possibly handle; they grow themselves to death. Information about RoundUp is from Malcolm Beck, a long-time organic farmer and originator of the Gardenville nurseries and compost sellers. He is consultant to Texas A & M and UT San Antonio. Dr. Goebel --- On Mon, 6/16/08, robyn howell <robynehowell wrote: robyn howell <robynehowell Re: Roundup toxicity oleander soup Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:58 AM Does anyone know how toxic roundup is? Thanks, Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Read Malcolm Beck then let me know if your opinion has changed.Dr. Goebel--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphier wrote:Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphierRE: Roundup toxicityoleander soup Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 2:42 PM I’m sorry but I totally disagree. It is not safe and Monsanto has a track record for lying and then coming back and saying “oops, sorry.” If your friend is “organic” gardening and using Round-Up then he is not growing organically. Called the wonder herbicide, RoundUp is one of the top-selling herbicides. Made by Monsanto, it is now used on plants that have been genetically engineered to tolerate RoundUp without dying. This means: Higher residues of RoundUp in our food chain Over 90 percent of soy and canola in our food chain are 'RoundUp Ready' genetically engineered to withstand large quantities of RoundUp Increased RoundUp usage by farmers More danger to the public RoundUp Herbicide has been touted by its maker, Monsanto, as safe and environmentally friendly. As such, it has become the most popular herbicide in use today. Advertising by Monsanto has led the public to believe that RoundUp is "safe as table salt," a phrase used quite often by its proponents to describe it. Studies used for RoundUp's initial registration were fraudulent. There is no indication that these studies have been replaced with other, more valid, studies. The public perception of RoundUp as safe, environmentally friendly, and no more harmful than table salt has impeded the normal scientific study to which a pesticide would normally be subjected. Research grants have been concentrated in the areas of pesticides perceived to be more detrimental to humans. New York State's Attorney General has sued Monsanto for claiming that RoundUp is "safe" and "environmentally friendly." This suit ended in a settlement with Monsanto in which Monsanto agreed to cease and desist from using these terms in advertising RoundUp in the state of New York. Monsanto, while not admitting any wrongdoing, paid the state of New York $250,000 in settlement of this suit. When Monsanto violated the first settlement agreement by advertising within New York that RoundUp is "safe," a second agreement was negotiated. Most of the studies identifying RoundUp's true toxicity are recent, and certain areas of RoundUp's toxicity have yet to be thoroughly studied. Case law involving RoundUp victims is almost non-existent due to this lack of scientific information with which to prove causation. It is for these reasons that it is important to also look to anecdotal information about RoundUp's toxicity to humans in order to develop a full picture of the symptomology it causes. http://www.naturesc ountrystore. com/roundup/ http://www.organicc onsumers. org/articles/ article_4574. cfm Warm Regards~ Loretta oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Michael Goebel Monday, June 16, 2008 2:29 PM oleander soup Cc: Malcolm Beck Re: Roundup toxicity Not very. You would have to drink it and miss your esophagus, getting it down your windpipe to do damage; in that case you would suffocate. You can swallow it w/o harmful effects. It breaks down quickly in water. It is related to sugars and alcohols. It almost is deserving of the "organic" label. It does not poison plants!!! It stimulates them to grow much faster than they can possibly handle; they grow themselves to death. Information about RoundUp is from Malcolm Beck, a long-time organic farmer and originator of the Gardenville nurseries and compost sellers. He is consultant to Texas A & M and UT San Antonio. Dr. Goebel --- On Mon, 6/16/08, robyn howell <robynehowell@ > wrote: robyn howell <robynehowell@ > Re: Roundup toxicity oleander soup Monday, June 16, 2008, 11:58 AM Does anyone know how toxic roundup is? Thanks, Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 I disagree too. At first, I thought Dr Goebel was talking tongue in cheek! Not only do Monsanto poison the environment, they can financially cripple neighbours whose fields have been contaminated with their GE seeds! See: Percy Schmeiser is a farmer from Bruno, Saskatchewan Canada whose Canola fields were contaminated with Monsanto's Round-Up Ready Canola. Monsanto's position was that it didn't matter whether Schmeiser knew or not that his canola field was contaminated with the Roundup Ready gene, or whether or not he took advantage of the technology (he didn't); that he must pay Monsanto their Technology Fee of $15./acre. In NZ we have 2 different organic standards, the lax govt one and the very tightly monitored industry one. It is in the true organic industry's interest to strictly monitor for certification purposes. However, neither allow Roundup! Safe to drink? Not me? Safe as salt? I use salt as a herbicide between paving stones. Salt can be used as an emetic so I wouldn't swallow Roundup! I would really like the Roundup officials who came up with that little catchphrase to drink it themselves. Reminds me of Paul Offit who thinks it's safe to vaccinate babies and pregnant women with 10,000 neurotoxic vaccines. Saw a neighbour mixing his weed spray in the same bucket he used for his roses. He used the same spray unit too. Although they had been thoroughly rinsed [down the stormwater drain] his roses looked like his weeds, bent and distorted, like hormone damage. Apparently the Roundup impregnates the plastic in the bucket and the tubing! He used to mix his sprays with his hand, because they were so "safe". BTW - coincidentally he struggles with leukaemia. He had rashes on arms and legs from the spray. No protective gear at all. Maracuja Join the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign! Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphieroleander soup Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:21:42 AMRe: Roundup toxicity I’m sorry but I totally disagree. It is not safe and Monsanto has a track record for lying and then coming back and saying “oops, sorry.” If your friend is “organic” gardening and using Round-Up then he is not growing organically. Called the wonder herbicide, RoundUp is one of the top-selling herbicides. Made by Monsanto, it is now used on plants that have been genetically engineered to tolerate RoundUp without dying. This means: Higher residues of RoundUp in our food chain Over 90 percent of soy and canola in our food chain are 'RoundUp Ready' genetically engineered to withstand large quantities of RoundUp Increased RoundUp usage by farmers More danger to the public RoundUp Herbicide has been touted by its maker, Monsanto, as safe and environmentally friendly. As such, it has become the most popular herbicide in use today. Advertising by Monsanto has led the public to believe that RoundUp is "safe as table salt," a phrase used quite often by its proponents to describe it. Studies used for RoundUp's initial registration were fraudulent. There is no indication that these studies have been replaced with other, more valid, studies. The public perception of RoundUp as safe, environmentally friendly, and no more harmful than table salt has impeded the normal scientific study to which a pesticide would normally be subjected. Research grants have been concentrated in the areas of pesticides perceived to be more detrimental to humans. New York State's Attorney General has sued Monsanto for claiming that RoundUp is "safe" and "environmentally friendly." This suit ended in a settlement with Monsanto in which Monsanto agreed to cease and desist from using these terms in advertising RoundUp in the state of New York. Monsanto, while not admitting any wrongdoing, paid the state of New York $250,000 in settlement of this suit. When Monsanto violated the first settlement agreement by advertising within New York that RoundUp is "safe," a second agreement was negotiated. Most of the studies identifying RoundUp's true toxicity are recent, and certain areas of RoundUp's toxicity have yet to be thoroughly studied. Case law involving RoundUp victims is almost non-existent due to this lack of scientific information with which to prove causation. It is for these reasons that it is important to also look to anecdotal information about RoundUp's toxicity to humans in order to develop a full picture of the symptomology it causes.http://www.naturesc ountrystore. com/roundup/ http://www.organicc onsumers. org/articles/ article_4574. cfm http://dandelionsal ad.wordpress. com/2008/ 04/01/the- world-according- to-monsanto- a-documentary- that-americans- wont-ever- see-full- video/ - Watch the video “The World According to Monsanto” Warm Regards~ Loretta oleander soup [oleandersou p ] On Behalf Of Michael GoebelMonday, June 16, 2008 2:29 PMoleander soupCc: Malcolm BeckRe: Roundup toxicity Not very. You would have to drink it and miss your esophagus, getting it down your windpipe to do damage; in that case you would suffocate. You can swallow it w/o harmful effects. It breaks down quickly in water. It is related to sugars and alcohols. It almost is deserving of the "organic" label. It does not poison plants!!! It stimulates them to grow much faster than they can possibly handle; they grow themselves to death. Information about RoundUp is from Malcolm Beck, a long-time organic farmer and originator of the Gardenville nurseries and compost sellers. He is consultant to Texas A & M and UT San Antonio.Dr. Goebel--- On Mon, 6/16/08, robyn howell <robynehowell@ > wrote: robyn howell <robynehowell@ >Re: Roundup toxicityoleander soupMonday, June 16, 2008, 11:58 AM Does anyone know how toxic roundup is? Thanks, Robyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Dr. G, I have done a tremendous amout of research about Monsanto and I don’t trust them as far as I can see them. They are liers and probably wouldn’t know the truth if it smacked them in the face! I was raised in a South Texas farming community (cotton, grain and corn) and we have many, many friends that farmed and some that still do. I know exactly what goes on with farming practices. In fact, I worked for Production Credit Association (now Texas AG Finance) which was a small lending institution that provided competitive financing for farmers only. I deeply understand what has gone on in the farming community – with small farms and large farms. I also know that Monsanto is trying to take control of our food AND our water (different subject for a different time) AND our government is allowing them to poison us. They are trying to set themselves up as the FDA of farming/food and are about as trustworthy as the real FDA is toward natural supplements/vitamins. It may sound very educated to say something like “someone needs to educate farmers on how to work with nature” as Malcom Beck as said, but that is a very condescending statement that would absolutel insult many farmers. The government will never teach or support anything about organic farming because they are in bed with the likes of Monsanto. Below is a portion of what your friend writes. The idea that we must choose the “lesser of two evils” sounds exactly like my Primary Care Physician when trying to convince me that CT scans are ok. Sorry, I don’t buy it. The problem is that the chemical companies that are making us sicker and sicker in the name of “convenience” which is what RoundUp is - convenient. Can’t find peope to “hoe weeds” – I highly doubt it unless you are paying them pennies. I do like the idea of having prisoners or even teens that can’t seem to be a productive part of society, doing this type of work – but that would probably violate their “rights” as he indicates. He says that he does not promote glyphosate - but he is promoting glyphosate as the “lesser ot two evils.” Also, our wonderful plastic’s companies have told us over and over just how safe their plastics are – for how many years now? (I am old enough to remember when most everything was packaged in glass.) And then we find out they have been lying – of course, they don’t get hurt except for getting a slap on the hand and a fine all the while hundreds of thousands of people are sick and toxic because of misplaced trust and believing that convenience is better than health. Please don’t believe for one minute that DOW or Monsanto or any of the other chemical companies have our best interest at heart – it is all about greed and money and the more “professional” people they can PAY to back them (such as A & M, Phd’s, etc.) the better it makes them look – It’s ALL about them – not about the farmers and not about trying to feed the world – it’s about control and keeping the population sick and fearful. CODEX falls right in there with all of this – I would imagine that at some point in time they will out-law heirloom seeds and home gardens. Sound ridiculous? – don’t be so sure. The following is from: http://www.malcolmbeck.com/articles/Glyphosate.htm Our problems are with government policies and lack of someone educating farmers on how to work with Nature. The government should be teaching and paying farmers to build soil organic content, which is the prerequisite of getting free from chemical dependence. Our problems are not with using products but not understanding why they have become necessary. I do not promote glyphosate. I dislike it as much as any man made chemical. But I do promote no-till. So far I have found no way to get farmers to give up the plow without using some herbicide at least for a while until he can eliminate perennial and rhizome type weeds. We have to stop plowing the soil to death. The soil gives birth to all life. The quality of the soil determines the quality of our air, our water and our food. Nature never plows. Plowing destroys soil life and soil quality. As the quality of the soil goes the life it supports goes. Farmers have to have some method of weed control. Hoeing would be perfect, look at all the good exercise, fresh air and closeness with nature but, you will no longer get people in this country to hoe at any wage. Hoeing could be a great job for all the people in our many prisons. But that would probably be considered in humane. Glyphosate is the least toxic of the herbicides mentioned in the Adobe file. Dr. Elaine Ingham tells me, “there is a bacteria in the soil that loves it and eats it up.” No-Till creates conditions and furnishes the energy and environment for those bacteria to flourish. Dr. Don Marks, world wide known expert on Mycorrhizae, said the plow destroys the host weed and the mycorrhizal fungi before it gets a chance to spore, with herbicide the host plant stops sending carbohydrates before it dies signaling the fungi to quickly spore. The plow is a bigger enemy to the mycorrhizae then glyphosate. Drifts can be prevented if used with the no drift products on the market and correct atmospheric conditions, such as, in the evening when the air is cooling. Also, if farmers would add one ounce of feed molasses to his herbicide mix it would stick better, help stop drifting and furnish the microbes a good energy source so they can quicker detoxify the product. I stick with my statement,” Nature could approve of glyphosate if used properly in some conditions.” Please Watch: http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/the-world-according-to-monsanto-a-documentary-that-americans-wont-ever-see-full-video/ - The video “The World According to Monsanto” Be Well Loretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 I agree w/ you completely about the drug and chemical company takeover of our agricultural lands; I hate it. I fear we will soon be in armed revolt against our pseudo-government; international corporate profits control the laws, . . . until we revoltMalcolm is right about no-till farming methods. This is man who has been involved for over 50 years w/ organic farming. If you could visit his farm, you could judge his expertise by the crops he grows. He has more inovative ideas than anyone I've ever met. I trust his evaluations -- I rarely say that about anyone! So, in the manner that the Nazis were evil but yet produced a good idea (chelation), also an evil company may occasionally advance a good idea or product.I suppose we will wait and see. I think I agree w/ you on 99% of the issues I've seen you address, and I won't discount the other 1%; my jury is still out on these. Thank you for your many contributions at the group postings.Dr. Goebeo--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphier wrote:Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphierRE: Roundup toxicityoleander soup Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 8:25 PM Dr. G, I have done a tremendous amout of research about Monsanto and I don’t trust them as far as I can see them. They are liers and probably wouldn’t know the truth if it smacked them in the face! I was raised in a South Texas farming community (cotton, grain and corn) and we have many, many friends that farmed and some that still do. I know exactly what goes on with farming practices. In fact, I worked for Production Credit Association (now Texas AG Finance) which was a small lending institution that provided competitive financing for farmers only. I deeply understand what has gone on in the farming community – with small farms and large farms. I also know that Monsanto is trying to take control of our food AND our water (different subject for a different time) AND our government is allowing them to poison us. They are trying to set themselves up as the FDA of farming/food and are about as trustworthy as the real FDA is toward natural supplements/ vitamins. It may sound very educated to say something like “someone needs to educate farmers on how to work with nature” as Malcom Beck as said, but that is a very condescending statement that would absolutel insult many farmers. The government will never teach or support anything about organic farming because they are in bed with the likes of Monsanto. Below is a portion of what your friend writes. The idea that we must choose the “lesser of two evils” sounds exactly like my Primary Care Physician when trying to convince me that CT scans are ok. Sorry, I don’t buy it. The problem is that the chemical companies that are making us sicker and sicker in the name of “convenience” which is what RoundUp is - convenient. Can’t find peope to “hoe weeds” – I highly doubt it unless you are paying them pennies. I do like the idea of having prisoners or even teens that can’t seem to be a productive part of society, doing this type of work – but that would probably violate their “rights” as he indicates. He says that he does not promote glyphosate - but he is promoting glyphosate as the “lesser ot two evils.” Also, our wonderful plastic’s companies have told us over and over just how safe their plastics are – for how many years now? (I am old enough to remember when most everything was packaged in glass.) And then we find out they have been lying – of course, they don’t get hurt except for getting a slap on the hand and a fine all the while hundreds of thousands of people are sick and toxic because of misplaced trust and believing that convenience is better than health. Please don’t believe for one minute that DOW or Monsanto or any of the other chemical companies have our best interest at heart – it is all about greed and money and the more “professional” people they can PAY to back them (such as A & M, Phd’s, etc.) the better it makes them look – It’s ALL about them – not about the farmers and not about trying to feed the world – it’s about control and keeping the population sick and fearful. CODEX falls right in there with all of this – I would imagine that at some point in time they will out-law heirloom seeds and home gardens. Sound ridiculous? – don’t be so sure. The following is from: http://www.malcolmb eck.com/articles /Glyphosate. htm Our problems are with government policies and lack of someone educating farmers on how to work with Nature. The government should be teaching and paying farmers to build soil organic content, which is the prerequisite of getting free from chemical dependence. Our problems are not with using products but not understanding why they have become necessary. I do not promote glyphosate. I dislike it as much as any man made chemical. But I do promote no-till. So far I have found no way to get farmers to give up the plow without using some herbicide at least for a while until he can eliminate perennial and rhizome type weeds. We have to stop plowing the soil to death. The soil gives birth to all life. The quality of the soil determines the quality of our air, our water and our food. Nature never plows. Plowing destroys soil life and soil quality. As the quality of the soil goes the life it supports goes. Farmers have to have some method of weed control. Hoeing would be perfect, look at all the good exercise, fresh air and closeness with nature but, you will no longer get people in this country to hoe at any wage. Hoeing could be a great job for all the people in our many prisons. But that would probably be considered in humane. Glyphosate is the least toxic of the herbicides mentioned in the Adobe file. Dr. Elaine Ingham tells me, “there is a bacteria in the soil that loves it and eats it up.” No-Till creates conditions and furnishes the energy and environment for those bacteria to flourish. Dr. Don Marks, world wide known expert on Mycorrhizae, said the plow destroys the host weed and the mycorrhizal fungi before it gets a chance to spore, with herbicide the host plant stops sending carbohydrates before it dies signaling the fungi to quickly spore. The plow is a bigger enemy to the mycorrhizae then glyphosate. Drifts can be prevented if used with the no drift products on the market and correct atmospheric conditions, such as, in the evening when the air is cooling. Also, if farmers would add one ounce of feed molasses to his herbicide mix it would stick better, help stop drifting and furnish the microbes a good energy source so they can quicker detoxify the product. I stick with my statement,” Nature could approve of glyphosate if used properly in some conditions.” Please Watch: http://dandelionsal ad.wordpress. com/2008/ 04/01/the- world-according- to-monsanto- a-documentary- that-americans- wont-ever- see-full- video/ - The video “The World According to Monsanto” Be Well Loretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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