MMS vs. colloidal silver for Cody

[Guest guest]

Hello and all,

 

My question is an easy one....I received the MMS mixture today but also have collidial silver being sent also (wish I had ordered some in glass now with all this heavy heat). Should I wait to use the MMS and start using the silver product first or do both, just not sure now.

 

thank you,

 

Bonnie & CodyVote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008.

[Guest guest]

I can think of no reason to wait.

 

If my dog had cancer I would use oleander, inositol/IP6 and colloidal

silver before anything else.

 

 

oleander soup , evian793 wrote:

>

> Hello and all,

>

> My question is an easy one....I received the MMS mixture today but

also have

> collidial silver being sent also (wish I had ordered some in glass

now with

> all this heavy heat). Should I wait to use the MMS and start using

the

> silver product first or do both, just not sure now.

>

> thank you,

>

> Bonnie & Cody

>

>

>

> **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's

Best

> 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bonnie,

 

I would start with the colloidal silver immediately. It is the best

healing agent that I have come across for animals. Have you ordered the

oleander supplement from Marc? As for MMS, I have heard both pros and

cons, yet the cons have impressed me sufficiently, that it would not be

my method of choice. Frankly, colloidal silver is a most powerful

healing agent when it comes to animals. I can't see adding MMS to this.

And, as Tony says, sometimes we can complicate the issue by using too

many supplements when just a few are necessary.

 

Hugs,

 

 

 

oleander soup , evian793 wrote:

>

> Hello and all,

>

> My question is an easy one....I received the MMS mixture today but

also have

> collidial silver being sent also (wish I had ordered some in glass now

with

> all this heavy heat). Should I wait to use the MMS and start using the

> silver product first or do both, just not sure now.

>

> thank you,

>

> Bonnie & Cody

>

>

>

> **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's

Best

> 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

>

[Guest guest]

I shrunk and eliminated tumors in 2 of my cats using AMMS (activated) MMS in their food. This took 2 weeks to shrink the tumors by half and another 2 weeks to eliminate them. MMS is powerful. You simply have to be more careful with it when starting out, than with CS. Though apparently you should also be careful with oleander when starting out to make sure it doesn't generate diarrhea.

 

I wonder--is the diarrhea from the oleander itself, or from too much toxins in the body due to the pathogen die off, like when using MMS? If you don't have a lot of pathogens to kill, or your body is good at eliminating them, then there is no reaction at all to MMS. But it sounds like here that most people need to work slowly up to the full dose of oleander due to the chance of getting diarrhea.

 

Personally, if it was me, I would always include MMS in a cancer protocol. So many cancers now are theorized to come from a virus of some sort, and MMS is excellent at killing viruses, bacteria and fungus (also a known cancer agent). Because MMS works for 12 hours in the system I think it is the perfect thing to take before going to bed. It can continue to work while a person is sleeping and unable to take scheduled doses of other supplements.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

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As for MMS, I have heard both pros and

cons, yet the cons have impressed me sufficiently, that it would not be

my method of choice. Frankly, colloidal silver is a most powerful

healing agent when it comes to animals. I can't see adding MMS to this.

[Guest guest]

Again, this is a choice you will have to make. I don't think anyone on the oleander list has used MMS for more that perhaps a short while, most have not used it at all. I have used it since last June or July, when the main MMS list was started. We had hundreds of people using and reporting on how MMS effected them and their illnesses. We've seen every type of reaction. A second MMS list was started (this is where I met you, Bonnie) because the first list became quiet. Those who used the MMS either fixed their problems and had nothing more to report on their experiences, or they found it didn't help them enough and dropped out. The second list is not as busy, ever, as the first list was. We had some scientists on that first list that looked closely at MMS.

 

So I do understand why people here are not convinced of what MMS can do. Most have only read different forums where people post only negative comments, or doubts, rather than all the positive feedback we saw on the dedicated MMS lists.

 

Because of my personal experiences with MMS, and those I saw on list over almost a year's time, I would say use CS during the day and MMS at night. Especially if you have to wait for your oleander. When the oleander gets to you, definitely add the oleander in during the day.

 

But then, I do not have the experience with oleander (though I do with CS--having been making my own for over 2 years now). So--no one is proficient in all 3--oleander, CS and MMS. Therefore you are going to get different answers--the ones not having personal experience with MMS will say not to take it--because they know how powerful oleander is. Because I know how powerful MMS is (but no first hand knowledge of oleander) I would say use the MMS ALONG WITH oleander. You know how tenacious lymphoma is, how hard it is to cure. The best you can do is go with your gut instinct. Hard choice, I know. But only you will know how your Cody reacts and feels. Good luck.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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I received the MMS mixture today but also have collidial silver being sent also (wish I had ordered some in glass now with all this heavy heat). Should I wait to use the MMS and start using the silver product first or do both, just not sure now.

 

[Guest guest]

Are the people using MMS also incorporating

things such as a healthy diet, supplementation, etc.?

 

Also, can you share with us what exactly you have witnessed MMS to help?

 

Thanks!

 

Be Well

LorettaI

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: MMS

vs. colloidal silver for Cody

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, this is a choice you will

have to make. I don't think anyone on the oleander list has used MMS

for more that perhaps a short while, most have not used it at all. I

have used it since last June or July, when the main MMS list was started.

We had hundreds of people using and reporting on how MMS effected them and

their illnesses. We've seen every type of reaction. A second MMS

list was started (this is where I met you, Bonnie) because the first list

became quiet. Those who used the MMS either fixed their problems and

had nothing more to report on their experiences, or they found it didn't help

them enough and dropped out. The second list is not as busy, ever, as

the first list was. We had some scientists on that first list that

looked closely at MMS.

 

 

 

 

 

So I do understand why people here

are not convinced of what MMS can do. Most have only read different

forums where people post only negative comments, or doubts, rather than

all the positive feedback we saw on the dedicated MMS lists.

 

 

 

 

 

Because of my personal experiences

with MMS, and those I saw on list over almost a year's time, I would say use

CS during the day and MMS at night. Especially if you have to wait for

your oleander. When the oleander gets to you, definitely add the

oleander in during the day.

 

 

 

 

 

But then, I do not have the

experience with oleander (though I do with CS--having been making my own for

over 2 years now). So--no one is proficient in all 3--oleander, CS and

MMS. Therefore you are going to get different answers--the ones not

having personal experience with MMS will say not to take it--because they

know how powerful oleander is. Because I know how powerful MMS is (but

no first hand knowledge of oleander) I would say use the MMS ALONG WITH

oleander. You know how tenacious lymphoma is, how hard it is to

cure. The best you can do is go with your gut instinct. Hard

choice, I know. But only you will know how your Cody reacts and

feels. Good luck.

 

 

 

 

 

Samala,

 

 

Renee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Many people are using supplements along with the MMS. Most of the people have major illnesses that they have dealt with for years, so have tried many different protocols, some with success and a few without--but most seem that when the MMS has been added to their protocols they have gotten better. Some dramatically, some not so much so they are still seeking other healing modalities. I direct many of them to oleander. :-)

 

Personally, we have no major illness here in our house, but I am always experimenting with different modalities. When I read about MMS I immediately sent for some and was so impressed at what it did that I ordered a 100 pound barrel of sodium chlorite so as to always be able to make MMS. Sooner or later it will become hard to get because it actually does work so good. That's the treasure of oleander--they can't stop you from growing a flower bush.

 

Anyway, I had a tooth that was bothering me for 3 months. I thought it was due to nerve pain because the tooth is loose. It's the last back lower molar, and I have bone loss there, so the tooth is loose. Because the tooth moves I assumed the pain was from that. Sometimes the pain was bad, sometimes not so bad, sometimes bad enough that I had to take a pain pill that I had left from an operation--and I rarely took the pills after the operation itself because I don't like to take them. But the tooth would be so bad I'd reach for a pill. When I got my MMS I decided to try the brushing and rinsing that Humble recommends, just for experimental purposes. As I said, I thought the pain was from the nerve being moved and didn't actually expect much.

 

I brushed and rinsed one day and by the next morning when I got up I realized that the pain was down by 50%. I brushed and rinsed once that day and by the next morning all pain was gone. That led me to understand that my pain was from an infection and not the tooth being moved around. The pain did not come back. This has been 6 months ago.

 

I had asthma as a child, but outgrew it upon reaching adulthood. But this has left me with slightly diminished lung capacity. I feel like I breath fine except when I exert myself with walking, running, exercise, lifting things, etc. I don't feel like I can get a full breath of air, and must stop till that goes away and I can breath (intentionally) deep again.

 

Within less than a week of taking minimum dose of MMS daily I realized that I was breathing all the way to the bottom of my lungs regularly, not just when I intended to take a deep breath. I am no longer out of breath so quickly when I extend myself. This effect lasts for a few months after stopping MMS, but then faded. To keep the effect I need to continue taking MMS on a regular basis of a few times a week.

 

I have one female cat who is between 12 and 13. She had 1 golf ball size hard mass in her stomach. I have another female cat who is 5 and she had a golf ball size hard mass and 1 smaller hard mass. I started them both on 1 drop of AMMS daily and within 2 weeks the golf ball size masses had shrunk to half and gotten soft and the small mass disappeared. After another 2 weeks all masses were gone from both cats.

 

My old dog is 15 and slept a lot. Most of the day. He weighs 50 pounds so got the correct dose for that weight daily in his food. Within a week we saw a marked improvement in his energy level. He slept much less and wanted to go out more. After 2 weeks he was trotting again instead of slow walking and is even running again outside.

 

My appetite decreased on MMS. It comes back when you stop taking it--at least for me. Many people reported loss of appetite and weight loss. I never experienced the weight loss though. A few people reported that it increased their appetites.

 

Here are a few posts, with names removed, that I have saved from the MMS lists:

 

 

When you get rid of a lot of things from taking MMS, you forget about

Them. When a pain stops it isn't prominent in your mind any longer.

I had a mole that was always itchy or bled easily. After taking MMS for Over a month I discovered that there was a scab where the mole was. It Lifted off and there was a hole over an eighth of an inch deep. (this mole loss is common--Renee) Now it Has scabbed over several times and is level with the rest of the skin Around it.

My husbands skin cancers on his back are also gone.

I have lymph gland problems in my left leg just above my ankle. They

Have cleared up so much I find it amazing. My leg had been swollen to Double its size and my foot too for 3 years. Now I can wear lace up Shoes with normal length laces.

I'm highly sensitive to the chlorine smell and hate drinking the stuff -

It always repeats on me. I take it with food - my evening meal once a day.

 

After 2 months I have a month off And madly take alpha lipoic acid to help the wrinkles go. (a few people have reported that the oxidizing process has made wrinkles in their skin, though I and others have not noticed this--again, everyone is different, but they are able to reverse these wrinkles by using anti-oxidents. -- Renee)

 

Another post:

 

I've had slow, but steady improvement on salt & C which took me from Mostly housebound, on a walking frame & dying, to traveling overseas Last year & not well, but actually having a life.

Throughout my 29 year Lyme battle I've had flickery vision with

Flashing lights and blind patches. Kind of like a permanent

Migraine. It has been torturous, very disabling & stopped me driving

My car. I could not cope with glare or sudden changes in light &

Dark. I had to wear sunglasses a lot and also sleep with a small

Night light on. On waking, the flickering would be very bad and I

Presumed it was due to poor circulation. Eye docs and neurologists Could not explain it, other than a rare form of permanent migraine or Spasms in the tiny veins in the eyes. Magnesium did not help the Spasms.

I have been on 5 drops of MMS morning & night for 7 months, still

Taking 2 doses salt & C during day.

I have to tell you, the 29 year spasms are nearly gone!!!!!!!!! I

Have slept without a night light for 2 weeks with no problem!!!!!! I

Am driving again the last few months and finally without

Sunglasses!!!!!!!! I wake in the morning and can cope if a light is

Turned on suddenly!!!!!!!

ooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the MMS is killing a virus or something that salt & C was not

Killing. I am also walking miles every day, my cheeks are pink and

My circulation is so much better. People everywhere are noticing how Much better I look. I am even feeling well enough to look for a part-Time job soon. Persevere. It is worth it.

 

Another:

 

I was reading some posts about MMS and you were asking for people to tell you their experiences with MMS.

My whole family take it daily and have so for approx. 6 months; Previously my husband took Hydrgen peroxide and had good results, but not as good as MMS.

MMS has been fantastic for us.

My daughter who is 11 has suffered from recurring tonsilitis for approx 18 months and was on the waiting list for surgery; With MMS

She was able to live without tonsilitis for about 4 months before she had them romoved; We actually reconsidered surgery because she was doing so well. She went from having a continually sore throat and swollen tonsils that made it very painful to swallow to having no pain and the tonsils decreasing in size; her pimples have cleared and she concentrates better at school too. She takes 4 drops a day.

My husband suffers from rheumatoid arthritis and he doesn't suffer from this anymore He also snores less; He takes 6 drops a day.

My son 7, has concentration problems and we can see an improvement with the MMS he takes 3 drops a day.

I initially felt nauseous taking MMS but reduced my intake and built up my intake slower I have suffered from excema, acne, asthma and hayfever since I was a baby; I must say I feel a lot better since taking MMS and have stopped medication for my excema - so far so good; I don't feel tired at all or flat after a hard days work; My asthma is nearly non existant; I am taking 4 drops a day and will increase slowly; My skin is clear.

My husbands cousin takes 9 drops a day; He suffers from Chrohns disease; He is so happy with his results he has been telling everyone about it; He has been symptom free for months; he felt nauseous at first too but decreased his intake and increased it more slowly.

So far we have had very positive results form MMS; I can't see us not taking it; We have been spreading the word with our friends and family; It is a fantastic product which is easy to use and not expensive;

We drink our MMS with apple juice that has no added vitamin C; We eat a healthy diet with no smoking or drinking; We did before taking; MMS but still suffered from our various ailments; MMS has given us what we needed to feel 100 percent.

 

 

As I said, there are others who have tried MMS and just can't get beyond the taste, so they quit. Some have persevered but it has upset their system so much that they finally had to quit. Some received little benefit--not enough to keep them using it. Again--it's a personal thing and each person needs to try it (done correctly) to actually see what it does for them. Whether or not it helps them. On the 2 lists there are actually FAR more people who's health has improved from MMS usage than not. The people who stopped MMS are a handful in comparison. At one point, the main list was at over 600 people, I think, and only a few stopped taking it.

 

There's no need to stop any supplements other than spacing out MMS and vit. C (at least by 2 hours). Some people feel that MMS takes out certain vitamins, so I always now recommend that people take C with the MMS (spaced, of course), plus some people feel that MMS kills good bacteria in the stomach so I also recommend that everyone take probiotics when on MMS. And because some people, especially very ill people, don't detox well, I suggest liver support herbs. I think that only certain people get the removal of C from their system, or feel like they loose the good gut bacteria. Not everyone goes through the effects that these people have--but to make sure that the next person trying MMS isn't one of those sensitive individuals I always suggest C, multi-vitamins, probiotics and liver support. That way everything should be covered. :-)

 

That's one of the things we learned after almost a year on the lists--what people felt the MMS took away, even though they were feeling better. I don't know about the newer MMS DVD interviews out there, but at the time no one else seemed to know about these side effects. Perhaps now they are telling people to supplement.

 

That's why I think oleander and MMS would be a great combo. One is anti-oxident (which will help with the skin problem) and one is an oxident. One can be taken during the day and one at night so that you get round the clock effects. One boosts the immune system to fight off the pathogens and one directly kills the pathogens.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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Are the people using MMS also incorporating things such as a healthy diet, supplementation, etc.?Also, can you share with us what exactly you have witnessed MMS to help?

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Renee. Very interesting. I

just wonder if the Sodium Chlorite needs to be at such high levels. Has

Jim said if he tested it at lower levels? I also think that probiotics

should be taken and with colloidal silver as well. It’s really

important that the digestive tract be kept clean and healthy. And I think

that taking Oleander during the day and MMS at night is a great idea.

 

Be Well

Loretta

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

No, I don't believe it has to be taken in high doses. I keep telling people not to--to start low and go slow. You see some of the cases I sent were only taking 6 or 7 drops a day, even after months--and it worked great. Some people want to rush the process, to get at the highest dose possible as quickly as possible. Bad idea. They get a lot of diarrhea and vomiting, or spend all day long feeling nauseated. There's no reason for that. MMS works as good at low dose as at high dose, and is less strain on the body. It may simply take a bit longer to get healthy going the low dose/slow route, but as far as I'm concerned, it's a much better way to do it. They didn't get sick overnight, they should be willing to give the body a break and take some time to get healthy.

 

I really think the 2 together, oleander and MMS, would be a powerful tool to have at home. One for the day and one for bedtime. Seems to me to be quite a combination against disease. I'm pretty fortunate, though, not to have something to test it on personally. :-)

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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Thanks, Renee. Very interesting. I just wonder if the Sodium Chlorite needs to be at such high levels. Has Jim said if he tested it at lower levels? I also think that probiotics should be taken and with colloidal silver as well. It’s really important that the digestive tract be kept clean and healthy. And I think that taking Oleander during the day and MMS at night is a great idea.

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine had swollen lymph nodes in his groin for over 2 months. After 2 months of them not going away he went to his doctor. Immediately his doctor did bloodwork and tested him for hiv. He was negative. The doctor prescribed him a course of anti-biotics. A month later the nodes were still swollen with no change. I ordered him some MMS and he started taking 3 drops activated for 3 minutes with 15 drops of citric acid 2 times per day. The swollen lymph nodes went away and 5 months later have not returned. Clearly he had some kind of infection or his nodes would not have been swollen, but the MMS completely and safely took care of the problem whatever it was.Alot of the people who badmouth MMS have not bothered to

actually try it or properly educate themselves about before they did try it so that they know how to properly take it. I have read both MMS books by Jim Humble and often read the MMS support forum on curezone.com. Tons of people have amazing things to say about it. Whether or not it is a cure all I cannot say, but I do know it made my friend's swollen lymph nodes go away.--- On Fri, 6/13/08, Gaiacita <gaiacita wrote:Gaiacita <gaiacitaRE: MMS vs. Colloidal silver for Codyoleander soup Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 6:19 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, I don't believe it has to be taken in high doses. I keep telling people not to--to start low and go slow. You see some of the cases I sent were only taking 6 or 7 drops a day, even after months--and it worked great. Some people want to rush the process, to get at the highest dose possible as quickly as possible. Bad idea. They get a lot of diarrhea and vomiting, or spend all day long feeling nauseated. There's no reason for that. MMS works as good at low dose as at high dose, and is less strain on the body. It may simply take a bit longer to get healthy going the low dose/slow route, but as far as I'm concerned, it's a much better way to do it. They didn't get sick overnight, they should be willing to give the body a break and take some time to get healthy.

 

I really think the 2 together, oleander and MMS, would be a powerful tool to have at home. One for the day and one for bedtime. Seems to me to be quite a combination against disease. I'm pretty fortunate, though, not to have something to test it on personally. :-)

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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Thanks, Renee. Very interesting. I just wonder if the Sodium Chlorite needs to be at such high levels. Has Jim said if he tested it at lower levels? I also think that probiotics should be taken and with colloidal silver as well. It¢s really important that the digestive tract be kept clean and healthy. And I think that taking Oleander during the day and MMS at night is a great idea.

[Guest guest]

Renne- i take 3 drops of mms every night for 6 months now, i found that i sleep better, i breath better, i have more energy to do the things i need to do and for all i care, i will take it as long as i feel this good. I have read that the natural PH of sodium chlorite is13 adding lemon juice creates about 3mg of unstable but harmless solution, that when it comes in contuct with cells that are lower then ph 7 those cells are killed off, while healthy cells are untached.

And this was my two cents worth of knowledge about MMS, every body's health is strictly personal and they do what they feel is right for them, all we can do is be here and help if we can.

Hugs Mary

 

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Gaiacita

oleander soup

Saturday, June 14, 2008 7:15 AM

Re: Re: MMS vs. colloidal silver for Cody

 

 

 

 

 

 

I shrunk and eliminated tumors in 2 of my cats using AMMS (activated) MMS in their food. This took 2 weeks to shrink the tumors by half and another 2 weeks to eliminate them. MMS is powerful. You simply have to be more careful with it when starting out, than with CS. Though apparently you should also be careful with oleander when starting out to make sure it doesn't generate diarrhea.

 

I wonder--is the diarrhea from the oleander itself, or from too much toxins in the body due to the pathogen die off, like when using MMS? If you don't have a lot of pathogens to kill, or your body is good at eliminating them, then there is no reaction at all to MMS. But it sounds like here that most people need to work slowly up to the full dose of oleander due to the chance of getting diarrhea.

 

Personally, if it was me, I would always include MMS in a cancer protocol. So many cancers now are theorized to come from a virus of some sort, and MMS is excellent at killing viruses, bacteria and fungus (also a known cancer agent). Because MMS works for 12 hours in the system I think it is the perfect thing to take before going to bed. It can continue to work while a person is sleeping and unable to take scheduled doses of other supplements.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

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As for MMS, I have heard both pros and

cons, yet the cons have impressed me sufficiently, that it would not be

my method of choice. Frankly, colloidal silver is a most powerful

healing agent when it comes to animals. I can't see adding MMS to this.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mary. I'm glad the MMS is helping you. I know the oleander will too. I love that we have the net, and a place to share this knowledge. I think we are at an unprecedented time in history, which we will look back on, and say "I was there when the self-health movement really started". :-) Or should I say, restarted? Up until the last couple hundred years people took care of themselves, using natural means. Now, this ability is being put back into our hands.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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Every body's health is strictly personal and they do what they feel is right for them, all we can do is be here and help if we can.

 

[Guest guest]

Renne.

I'm taking oleander for 3 years now and yes it helps me plenty, but i like to try other things too, so i know if and how they work, so when i tell people i know what i'm talking about, its called ego i think lol lol.

where we all be if we din't share what we know? and yes thanks to tecnology and the net we can share what we know, without pushing enything, on enybody.

And to tell you the truth it has not been hundred years where people took care of them selfs, i grow up in a vilage that have no doctors or hospitals, i saw a doctor for the first time in my life, when i come to Astralia 44 years ago, how is that for taking care of ourselfs? lol lol again because it sounds funny but its true.

knowledge is power and it feels good when we use it to take care of ourselfs and the people we love.

Hugs Mary

 

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Gaiacita

oleander soup

Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:52 PM

Re: Re: MMS vs. colloidal silver for Cody

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Mary. I'm glad the MMS is helping you. I know the oleander will too. I love that we have the net, and a place to share this knowledge. I think we are at an unprecedented time in history, which we will look back on, and say "I was there when the self-health movement really started". :-) Or should I say, restarted? Up until the last couple hundred years people took care of themselves, using natural means. Now, this ability is being put back into our hands.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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Every body's health is strictly personal and they do what they feel is right for them, all we can do is be here and help if we can.

 

[Guest guest]

Wow Mary. I bet you know a lot about your people's ways to stay healthy then. My cousin grew up in a small, isolated area of Arkansas here in the US. He said his Mom only used wild herbs for healing the family. He's almost 70 now and always regrets not asking his Mom what plants were used for what. So many of our traditions get lost in just one generation, sadly.

 

I don't think telling people about what we know is ego. It's sharing. It's the "been there, done that" mindset, where you want to save someone else the troubles you went through. :-)

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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I'm taking oleander for 3 years now and yes it helps me plenty, but i like to try other things too, so i know if and how they work, so when i tell people i know what i'm talking about, its called ego i think lol lol.

Where we all be if we din't share what we know? and yes thanks to tecnology and the net we can share what we know, without pushing enything, on enybody.

And to tell you the truth it has not been hundred years where people took care of them selfs, i grow up in a vilage that have no doctors or hospitals, i saw a doctor for the first time in my life, when i come to Astralia 44 years ago, how is that for taking care of ourselfs?

[Guest guest]

Yes Renee i do know plenty but also have forgot some because of age, but as a young girl i was so in tune to natural therapies and love every minute learning from the older people in my country, i also study herbs here in Australia to learn the herb names in english, but for now what i know its good enough for me and my family, plus i keep learning just to keep up with things, and Renee dont forget i was born where hippocrates was and i know, that my food is my medicine and my medicine also is my food, pills and medication to me are something other people talk about.

I feel sorry for younger generations because its so ease to take a pill, and worse they dont listen, i will right something here that i read long time ago about listening and learning.

( to listen is to suffer, because, we dont want to listen to enything that my requere a change,

to listen is to change, we cannot change without listening,

listening implies to change, we need to change, just to listen )

this saying means a lot to me.

Hugs Mary

 

P.S. telling people what i know, no its no ego, but if i cant explain? so i need to know what i'm talking about so here comes ego, must know LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!

 

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Gaiacita

oleander soup

Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:11 PM

Re: Re: MMS vs. colloidal silver for Cody

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow Mary. I bet you know a lot about your people's ways to stay healthy then. My cousin grew up in a small, isolated area of Arkansas here in the US. He said his Mom only used wild herbs for healing the family. He's almost 70 now and always regrets not asking his Mom what plants were used for what. So many of our traditions get lost in just one generation, sadly.

 

I don't think telling people about what we know is ego. It's sharing. It's the "been there, done that" mindset, where you want to save someone else the troubles you went through. :-)

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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I'm taking oleander for 3 years now and yes it helps me plenty, but i like to try other things too, so i know if and how they work, so when i tell people i know what i'm talking about, its called ego i think lol lol.

Where we all be if we din't share what we know? and yes thanks to tecnology and the net we can share what we know, without pushing enything, on enybody.

And to tell you the truth it has not been hundred years where people took care of them selfs, i grow up in a vilage that have no doctors or hospitals, i saw a doctor for the first time in my life, when i come to Astralia 44 years ago, how is that for taking care of ourselfs?

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Mary, So you are from Australia. Did you hear about Stan Sheldon who had a double lung cancer and given a few weeks to live but was taught by the aborigines to take Papaya Leaves and he got well and no trace of cancer was found? Melly

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Yes i'm from Australia and did i ever, read about Stan !!!!! yes i did, i even plant a pawpaw to have my own leaves down the line, shoot sharing is fantastic back and fourth info.

Hugs Mary

 

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melly banagale

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Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:31 AM

Re: MMS vs. colloidal silver for Cody

 

 

 

Mary,

 

So you are from Australia. Did you hear about Stan Sheldon who had a double lung cancer and given a few weeks to live but was taught by the aborigines to take Papaya Leaves and he got well and no trace of cancer was found?

 

Melly