Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I love the suggestion to go to your site, and click on ads to give you a slight income. Tony, please repeat this suggestion every couple of months for newbies. As Renee suggested, I put the site on my home page to remind me. I also got off my butt and downloaded free Spybot. It shows the cookies enabled at each session, so I can delete them; should have done this a long time ago. Still somewhat confused about a couple of things. How much CS to take is one; my body may not overdose, but my pocketbook sure can. I need to eke it out. Will start with 3 tsp daily for a week, and then reduce. As for whether there is mercury in crowns, there's a lot of confused information out there. I made a few inquiries and received contradictory information so far. If and when I learn more, I'll let you all know. Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Rhoda, As far as the CS I agree it expensive there are a few ways to go. 1. One is making your own using 9 volt batteries. Have you considered this? I understand the quality is pretty good. I will probably be doing it in the future. 2. There are several CS generators suggested on this site as well. Good luck and happy budgeting! MCRhoda Mead <firefly541 wrote: I love the suggestion to go to your site, and click on ads to give you a slight income. Tony, please repeat this suggestion every couple of months for newbies. As Renee suggested, I put the site on my home page to remind me. I also got off my butt and downloaded free Spybot. It shows the cookies enabled at each session, so I can delete them; should have done this a long time ago. Still somewhat confused about a couple of things. How much CS to take is one; my body may not overdose, but my pocketbook sure can. I need to eke it out. Will start with 3 tsp daily for a week, and then reduce. As for whether there is mercury in crowns, there's a lot of confused information out there. I made a few inquiries and received contradictory information so far. If and when I learn more, I'll let you all know. Rhoda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 The colloidal silver you make from 9 volt batteries is really really weak compared to the best commercial silver like Utopia Silver and even weak compared to the best homemade silver like you get from a Silver Puppy, SilverGen of Silver Edge machine - which are themselves several orders less than the Utopia Silver but several times better than the nine volt battery stuff. If I were stuck on a desert island and only had the nine volt battery .. . . I think I would try to find a radio transmitter to get off the darn island! LOL oleander soup , Mister Cee <mister.cee wrote: > > Rhoda, > > As far as the CS I agree it expensive there are a few ways to go. > > 1. One is making your own using 9 volt batteries. Have you considered this? I understand the quality is pretty good. I will probably be doing it in the future. > > 2. There are several CS generators suggested on this site as well. > > Good luck and happy budgeting! > > MC > > Rhoda Mead <firefly541 wrote: > I love the suggestion to go to your site, and click on ads to give you a slight income. Tony, please repeat this suggestion every couple of months for newbies. > As Renee suggested, I put the site on my home page to remind me. I also got off my butt and downloaded free Spybot. It shows the cookies enabled at each session, so I can delete them; should have done this a long time ago. > > Still somewhat confused about a couple of things. > How much CS to take is one; my body may not overdose, but my pocketbook sure can. I need to eke it out. Will start with 3 tsp daily for a week, and then reduce. > As for whether there is mercury in crowns, there's a lot of confused information out there. I made a few inquiries and received contradictory information so far. If and when I learn more, I'll let you all know. Rhoda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I've made consistently good solutions with several home made 9 volt x 3 units. I bubble air between the electrodes with a small aquarium pump, then filter the product through unbleached coffee filters.MikeThe colloidal silver you make from 9 volt batteries is really really weak compared to the best commercial silver like Utopia Silver and even weak compared to the best homemade silver like you get from a Silver Puppy, SilverGen of Silver Edge machine - which are themselves several orders less than the Utopia Silver but several times better than the nine volt battery stuff. oleander soup, Mister Cee <mister.cee@ ...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Mike, You shouldn't have to filter your CS solution after making it. It should be crystal clear. If it isn't, your particle size is too large, or your solution contains contaminants. You should be making your silver with distilled water and .999 (or better) silver wire, and nothing else. A bubbler is fine but I suspect something is causing your solution to be contaminated. Bob - Mike Golden oleander soup Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:59 PM Re: Re: Small changes I've made consistently good solutions with several home made 9 volt x 3 units. I bubble air between the electrodes with a small aquarium pump, then filter the product through unbleached coffee filters.Mike The colloidal silver you make from 9 volt batteries is really reallyweak compared to the best commercial silver like Utopia Silver andeven weak compared to the best homemade silver like you get from aSilver Puppy, SilverGen of Silver Edge machine - which are themselvesseveral orders less than the Utopia Silver but several times betterthan the nine volt battery stuff.Tonyoleander soup, Mister Cee <mister.cee@ ...> wrote:> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 It is not contaminated. The filtration is for safety reasons. I don't have to filter it. I choose to. The silver is the highest grade and the water is distilled. I've been making this for years with good quality. There is no color to the solution. The bubbler disperses the particles from between the poles keeping the conductivity from ramping up too abruptly. I always encourage people to filter what they make similar to the reason you wear a seat belt in your car. Most of the time it might not be necessary, but it is a simple thing to do. I'd rather have the filter paper do the work than have it done by my kidneys if I make a mistake. I also sometimes use a pulsed D.C. microcurrent machine to make the silver, turning down the intensity gradually.Mike Golden, D.C.bbanever <bbaneveroleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:12:13 PMRe: Re: Small changesMike, You shouldn't have to filter your CS solution after making it. It should be crystal clear. If it isn't, your particle size is too large, or your solution contains contaminants. You should be making your silver with distilled water and ..999 (or better) silver wire, and nothing else. A bubbler is fine but I suspect something is causing your solution to be contaminated. Bob- Mike Golden oleander soup Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:59 PMRe: Re: Small changesI've made consistently good solutions with several home made 9 volt x 3 units. I bubble air between the electrodes with a small aquarium pump, then filter the product through unbleached coffee filters.MikeThe colloidal silver you make from 9 volt batteries is really reallyweak compared to the best commercial silver like Utopia Silver andeven weak compared to the best homemade silver like you get from aSilver Puppy, SilverGen of Silver Edge machine - which are themselvesseveral orders less than the Utopia Silver but several times betterthan the nine volt battery stuff.Tonyoleander soup, Mister Cee <mister.cee@ ...> wrote:> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Mike, I must state here that the method for making colloidal silver that you are describing is of the lowest quality and I in no way recommend this for anybody, especially any of our forum members. The only colloidal silver that Tony and I recommend are: Utopia Silver, Mesosilver, and silver made with the Silver Puppy. Even then, the silver made with the Silver Puppy is mostly ionic. I am going to share with you that just as recently as five years ago, my health was very bad. I was in a very worn down and debilitated state. From where I stand this minute, I would never compromise my health with any substandard supplements. I will share with you that I am in no way rich, and at the moment, not even self sufficient. My life, as with many others, is a struggle. Yet, one area that I will not scrimp in is my health. And, when looking at the big picture, taking care of my health naturally is much cheaper and way more effective than relying on the cost and methods of conventional medicine. I would also like to point out that you can tell true colloidal silver by its color. True colloidal silver is a rust/amber color. Anything clear or yellowish is purely ionic. Hugs, oleander soup , Mike Golden <goldenmike86 wrote: > > It is not contaminated. The filtration is for safety reasons. I don't have to filter it. I choose to. The silver is the highest grade and the water is distilled. I've been making this for years with good quality. There is no color to the solution. The bubbler disperses the particles from between the poles keeping the conductivity from ramping up too abruptly. I always encourage people to filter what they make similar to the reason you wear a seat belt in your car. Most of the time it might not be necessary, but it is a simple thing to do. I'd rather have the filter paper do the work than have it done by my kidneys if I make a mistake. I also sometimes use a pulsed D.C. microcurrent machine to make the silver, turning down the intensity gradually. > > Mike Golden, D.C. > > > > bbanever bbanever > oleander soup > Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:12:13 PM > Re: Re: Small changes > > > Mike, > > You shouldn't have to > filter your CS solution after making it. It should be crystal clear. > If it isn't, your particle size is too large, or your solution contains > contaminants. You should be making your silver with distilled water and > ..999 (or better) silver wire, and nothing else. A bubbler is fine but I > suspect something is causing your solution to be contaminated. > > Bob > - > Mike Golden > oleander soup > Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:59 PM > Re: Re: Small changes > > I've made consistently good solutions with several home made 9 volt x 3 units. I bubble air between the electrodes with a small aquarium pump, then filter the product through unbleached coffee filters. > > Mike > > > > > > The colloidal silver you make from 9 volt batteries is really really > weak compared to the best commercial silver like Utopia Silver and > even weak compared to the best homemade silver like you get from a > Silver Puppy, SilverGen of Silver Edge machine - which are themselves > several orders less than the Utopia Silver but several times better > than the nine volt battery stuff. > > > > > oleander soup, Mister Cee <mister.cee@ ...> wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 We"re talking degrees here. For the 'bang for the buck" aspect home made colloidal silver can be the superior product.. A clear product that turns vary faintly to a pleasant amber color is the best result. It takes 5 or 6 hours to get the faint color change. The ionic portion of the solution is actually the most effective part, small particles having a strong charge. This is how the it adheres to microorganism, mostly through the charge. I'm glad you have good results with colloidal silver from Utopia. I was on the email list they sponsored a few years back and enjoyed it. My point is that, if you know what you are doing, home made silver is the best way to go for many people. If you think the commercial product is that much better then you should use that. I drive a Saturn, not a Mercedes. You can argue that a Mercedes is much better. I won't agree and will continue driving my Saturn which I love.Mike Golden, D.C. May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:28:20 AM Re: Small changes Mike, I must state here that the method for making colloidal silver that you are describing is of the lowest quality and I in no way recommend this for anybody, especially any of our forum members. The only colloidal silver that Tony and I recommend are: Utopia Silver, Mesosilver, and silver made with the Silver Puppy. Even then, the silver made with the Silver Puppy is mostly ionic. I am going to share with you that just as recently as five years ago, my health was very bad. I was in a very worn down and debilitated state. From where I stand this minute, I would never compromise my health with any substandard supplements. I will share with you that I am in no way rich, and at the moment, not even self sufficient. My life, as with many others, is a struggle. Yet, one area that I will not scrimp in is my health. And, when looking at the big picture, taking care of my health naturally is much cheaper and way more effective than relying on the cost and methods of conventional medicine. I would also like to point out that you can tell true colloidal silver by its color. True colloidal silver is a rust/amber color. Anything clear or yellowish is purely ionic. Hugs, oleander soup, Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ ...> wrote: > > It is not contaminated. The filtration is for safety reasons. I don't have to filter it. I choose to. The silver is the highest grade and the water is distilled. I've been making this for years with good quality. There is no color to the solution. The bubbler disperses the particles from between the poles keeping the conductivity from ramping up too abruptly. I always encourage people to filter what they make similar to the reason you wear a seat belt in your car. Most of the time it might not be necessary, but it is a simple thing to do. I'd rather have the filter paper do the work than have it done by my kidneys if I make a mistake. I also sometimes use a pulsed D.C. microcurrent machine to make the silver, turning down the intensity gradually. > > Mike Golden, D.C. > > > > bbanever bbanever > oleander soup > Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:12:13 PM > Re: Re: Small changes > > > Mike, > > You shouldn't have to > filter your CS solution after making it. It should be crystal clear. > If it isn't, your particle size is too large, or your solution contains > contaminants. You should be making your silver with distilled water and > ..999 (or better) silver wire, and nothing else. A bubbler is fine but I > suspect something is causing your solution to be contaminated. > > Bob > - > Mike Golden > oleander soup > Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:59 PM > Re: Re: Small changes > > I've made consistently good solutions with several home made 9 volt x 3 units. I bubble air between the electrodes with a small aquarium pump, then filter the product through unbleached coffee filters. > > Mike > > > > > > The colloidal silver you make from 9 volt batteries is really really > weak compared to the best commercial silver like Utopia Silver and > even weak compared to the best homemade silver like you get from a > Silver Puppy, SilverGen of Silver Edge machine - which are themselves > several orders less than the Utopia Silver but several times better > than the nine volt battery stuff. > > > > > oleander soup, Mister Cee <mister.cee@ ...> wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 What about CS that, when made, is clear, but after a few months of sitting in a dark area, in a plastic jug (numbered safe for water) turns slightly yellow? I have a Silver Puppy, which made this CS. Samala, Renee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Jugs that are made of plastic rated for drinking water MAY not be appropriate for storing ionic silver. The lack of an electron in the outer shell make the ion very reactive with organic substances, including plastic. I would only use glass. The yellowness is indicative of an aggregation effect, forming larger particles than what you had before.Mike Golden, D.C.Gaiacita <gaiacitaoleander soup Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:10:10 AMRe: Re: Small changesWhat about CS that, when made, is clear, but after a few months of sitting in a dark area, in a plastic jug (numbered safe for water) turns slightly yellow? I have a Silver Puppy, which made this CS. Samala,Renee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 This is not what I have been taught. In fact, I have been taught just the opposite. Silver is the whitest of metals. But I am up to learning. Please tell me " why " colloidal silver should be a rust/amber color. Most likely something is being added in order to get it to this color. There is nothing wrong with ionic silver as people have been using it forever and it works well - certainly not the best, but it can do a good job. I would highly suggest that everyone have a good silver maker. Not trying to be argumentative - just trying to learn. Be Well Loretta I would also like to point out that you can tell true colloidal silver by its color. True colloidal silver is a rust/amber color. Anything clear or yellowish is purely ionic. Hugs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Thanks. Then I guess I'll ditch this CS and start new, using glass bottles. Samala, Renee ---- Jugs that are made of plastic rated for drinking water MAY not be appropriate for storing ionic silver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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