Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Made my first batch of OS and have taken 1/4 teaspoon only twice daily now for 3 days. My question is this is it possible to have a herxheimer reaction because my pain has increased and feels like my lungs are swollen and inflamed. Does this mean its working? Have been impressed with quick responses and all the knowledge here which encouraged me to even try OS. As stated before I have battled with cancer for the last 8 yrs but because of " chemobrain " not sure if i gave all info : Stage 4 skin cancer that metastasized to both lungs with dozens of tumors in each lung Have gone thru all different chemos they offer cept 1 and didnt do radiation because " C " was too far progressed at time of diagnosis. Have not taken any treatment except Pawpaw tea which is harvested and made here at home which has helped some by shrinking some tumors which is way better than conventional medicine has been able to do. Also is there anything I can take to help with this chemobrain which gets to be irritating at times lol. Much Love to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hi John, Tony will be along in a little while to reply to your question more specifically. But I will say, yes, there is something called a Herxheimer Reaction. While waiting for Tony, let me give you the link to his article on this subject. The Herxheimer Reaction - Feeling worse before feeling better Hugs, oleander soup , "john" <meloneater1 wrote:>> Made my first batch of OS and have taken 1/4 teaspoon only twice daily> now for 3 days. My question is this is it possible to have a> herxheimer reaction because my pain has increased and feels like my> lungs are swollen and inflamed. Does this mean its working? Have been> impressed with quick responses and all the knowledge here which> encouraged me to even try OS. As stated before I have battled with> cancer for the last 8 yrs but because of "chemobrain" not sure if i> gave all info : Stage 4 skin cancer that metastasized to both lungs> with dozens of tumors in each lung Have gone thru all different chemos> they offer cept 1 and didnt do radiation because "C" was too far> progressed at time of diagnosis. Have not taken any treatment except> Pawpaw tea which is harvested and made here at home which has helped> some by shrinking some tumors which is way better than conventional> medicine has been able to do. Also is there anything I can take to> help with this chemobrain which gets to be irritating at times lol.> Much Love to all> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hi John, Yes, quite often you will feel worse before feeling better. It is common with both oleander and Colloidal Silver, and just about anything that helps kill off cancer cells. As the bad cells are being killed off and attacked there well may be pain at the site of the cancers (it is especially common for that to happen when there is mets to bones, for example) and there is also quite a few toxins being released from cancer cell die off - which is why it is extremely important to cleanse, protect and rejuvenate the liver. Do you need info on that? If I were you I would add Inositol/IP6 to help get rid of the tumors. For " chemobrain " I would venture that detox and cleansing should help as will a very healthy diet. Beyond that colloidal gold helps sharpen focus and leads to a good overall mental state - at least it does for me and many others. Colloidal gold also works closely with CS and other anti-cancer agents. Love right back at ya, buddy! oleander soup , " john " <meloneater1 wrote: > > Made my first batch of OS and have taken 1/4 teaspoon only twice daily > now for 3 days. My question is this is it possible to have a > herxheimer reaction because my pain has increased and feels like my > lungs are swollen and inflamed. Does this mean its working? Have been > impressed with quick responses and all the knowledge here which > encouraged me to even try OS. As stated before I have battled with > cancer for the last 8 yrs but because of " chemobrain " not sure if i > gave all info : Stage 4 skin cancer that metastasized to both lungs > with dozens of tumors in each lung Have gone thru all different chemos > they offer cept 1 and didnt do radiation because " C " was too far > progressed at time of diagnosis. Have not taken any treatment except > Pawpaw tea which is harvested and made here at home which has helped > some by shrinking some tumors which is way better than conventional > medicine has been able to do. Also is there anything I can take to > help with this chemobrain which gets to be irritating at times lol. > Much Love to all > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hi John, Are you using MMS? If you are not you might want to look into it and discuss it with the group. Good thoughts out to you, bud! MCTony wrote: Hi John,Yes, quite often you will feel worse before feeling better. It iscommon with both oleander and Colloidal Silver, and just aboutanything that helps kill off cancer cells. As the bad cells are beingkilled off and attacked there well may be pain at the site of thecancers (it is especially common for that to happen when there is metsto bones, for example) and there is also quite a few toxins beingreleased from cancer cell die off - which is why it is extremelyimportant to cleanse, protect and rejuvenate the liver. Do you needinfo on that?If I were you I would add Inositol/IP6 to help get rid of the tumors.For "chemobrain" I would venture that detox and cleansing should helpas will a very healthy diet. Beyond that colloidal gold helps sharpenfocus and leads to a good overall mental state - at least it does forme and many others. Colloidal gold also works closely with CS andother anti-cancer agents.Love right back at ya, buddy!Tonyoleander soup , "john" <meloneater1 wrote:>> Made my first batch of OS and have taken 1/4 teaspoon only twice daily> now for 3 days. My question is this is it possible to have a> herxheimer reaction because my pain has increased and feels like my> lungs are swollen and inflamed. Does this mean its working? Have been> impressed with quick responses and all the knowledge here which> encouraged me to even try OS. As stated before I have battled with> cancer for the last 8 yrs but because of "chemobrain" not sure if i> gave all info : Stage 4 skin cancer that metastasized to both lungs> with dozens of tumors in each lung Have gone thru all different chemos> they offer cept 1 and didnt do radiation because "C" was too far> progressed at time of diagnosis. Have not taken any treatment except> Pawpaw tea which is harvested and made here at home which has helped> some by shrinking some tumors which is way better than conventional> medicine has been able to do. Also is there anything I can take to> help with this chemobrain which gets to be irritating at times lol.> Much Love to all> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I would see how oleander, inositol/IP6 and the rest of my anti-cancer protocol work before adding in anything like MMS. There is such a thing as too much supplements. If you don't see the results you want, THEN maybe you might try it. oleander soup , Mister Cee <mister.cee wrote: > > Hi John, > > Are you using MMS? > > If you are not you might want to look into it and discuss it with the group. Good thoughts out to you, bud! > > MC > > Tony wrote: > Hi John, > > Yes, quite often you will feel worse before feeling better. It is > common with both oleander and Colloidal Silver, and just about > anything that helps kill off cancer cells. As the bad cells are being > killed off and attacked there well may be pain at the site of the > cancers (it is especially common for that to happen when there is mets > to bones, for example) and there is also quite a few toxins being > released from cancer cell die off - which is why it is extremely > important to cleanse, protect and rejuvenate the liver. Do you need > info on that? > > If I were you I would add Inositol/IP6 to help get rid of the tumors. > > For " chemobrain " I would venture that detox and cleansing should help > as will a very healthy diet. Beyond that colloidal gold helps sharpen > focus and leads to a good overall mental state - at least it does for > me and many others. Colloidal gold also works closely with CS and > other anti-cancer agents. > > Love right back at ya, buddy! > > > > oleander soup , " john " <meloneater1@> wrote: > > > > Made my first batch of OS and have taken 1/4 teaspoon only twice daily > > now for 3 days. My question is this is it possible to have a > > herxheimer reaction because my pain has increased and feels like my > > lungs are swollen and inflamed. Does this mean its working? Have been > > impressed with quick responses and all the knowledge here which > > encouraged me to even try OS. As stated before I have battled with > > cancer for the last 8 yrs but because of " chemobrain " not sure if i > > gave all info : Stage 4 skin cancer that metastasized to both lungs > > with dozens of tumors in each lung Have gone thru all different chemos > > they offer cept 1 and didnt do radiation because " C " was too far > > progressed at time of diagnosis. Have not taken any treatment except > > Pawpaw tea which is harvested and made here at home which has helped > > some by shrinking some tumors which is way better than conventional > > medicine has been able to do. Also is there anything I can take to > > help with this chemobrain which gets to be irritating at times lol. > > Much Love to all > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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