Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Hi Lilly - Sutherlandia OPC and Inositol/IP6, as well as the rest of my anti-cancer protocol would be the best advice I could offer. One supplement your father is taking stands out to me - Protocel. It is not compatible with most other supplements and works by lowering cellular energy instead of boosting it. I have never been that impressed with Protocel because it is very demanding of what you can and cannot do, missed doses are critical, it does not work with so many other good cancer fighters, immune boosters, and the Budwig diet AND the results are typically not nearly as good as oleander or the overall protocol I recommend. If it were me, I would consider ALL of my protocol and also work up to double the normal amount of OPC since the cancer appears fairly advanced. With OPC, I believe the way to do that is to get both the extract and the capsules, begin with half a dose of each and then increase it gradually to full doses of each (which is three 5 ml doses of extract per day and 2 capsules per day. If your father is on blood thinners (such as Wayfarin or Coumadin) or heart medications with Digoxin/Digitalis, doubling the OPC would not be advisable. It is very possible with mets to bones that there may be some initial pain as the OPC and inositol began to destroy the cancer and induce cancer cell deaths. That merely means it is working - and in time the overall pain should be greatly lessened to much less than he has right now, if not eliminated completely. I am glad to see your father is taking milk thistle. With mets to the liver, it is essential to protect and regenerate the liver as well as keep the bile flowing. Consider coffee enemas to open the bile ducts. Absolutely include lecithin with choline and coconut oil, and I would personally recommend alpha-lipoic acid, selenium and turmeric. Beet juice is also good. I personally take oleander, inositol/IP6 (periodically), lecithin with choline, alpha-lipoic acid, coconut oil, selenium, turmeric and a great many other things on my protocol too (colloidal silver, plant minerals, Vitamin D3, OxyGen, etc). Welcome to the group - we are here to help and support as best we can! oleander soup , " miao0888 " <miao0888 wrote: > > I joined this group yesterday and went through a lot of prior postings > and documents in the Files section. I'm very impressed by the > effectiveness of oleander soup/Sutherlandia OPC in treating cancer and > considering to use it on my father. > > My father has colon cancer with mets to his liver, lung and abdominal > wall. He is having constant stomach and back pain and very depressed. > I'm wondering will Sutherlandia OPC still be effective in this > situation? > > My father is currently taking LDN, Paw Paw, Protocel, AHCC, Milk > Thistle, Barley Green and Avemar. I'm wondering if any of the above > supplements is not compatible with Sutherlandia OPC and should be > stopped in order for Sutherlandia OPC to be effective? > > Thanks so much for your help in advance! > Lilly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Tony, Thank you so much for the great advice. I'll get my father started with the protocol ASAP. Lilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Hi Lilly, Welcome to the group. Hope the loving care that you give your Dad will be rewarded with a total healing. Just wish to clarify which paw-paw is your Dad taking? There is the US East Coast Paw-paw whose function is similar to the Graviola which blocks the ATP of cells. There is the papaya which is called paw-paw in Australia and some Latin American countries. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Hi Melly, Thank you so much! My father has been taking Paw Paw Cell-Reg capsules. Is this the Paw Paw that compatible with S/OPC? Lilly oleander soup , melly banagale <tita_mel wrote: > > Hi Lilly, > > > Welcome to the group. Hope the loving care that you give your Dad will be rewarded with a total healing. > > Just wish to clarify which paw-paw is your Dad taking? There is the US East Coast Paw-paw whose function is similar to the Graviola which blocks the ATP of cells. There is the papaya which is called paw-paw in Australia and some Latin American countries. > > Melly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Lilly, I am not familiar with the supplement. Take a look at the list of ingredients. Is it carica papaya or Asimina triloba? Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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