Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Isn't heal another word for cure? If you are cured you are healed. Am I misunderstanding something here? Judy Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:15 AM Re:Moderators note RE: My 25 year old daughter needs help Wow, never knew that about the word "cure"!!! Is there alink to thefda page, or did ypu get a letter? I'd love to have a link for my ownrecords & research. Thanks. , Elaine <MedResearch121wrote:>> If we want to keep this group open and not have it closed down, wemust NOT ask for a diagnosis or a healing regiment, that only aphysician can do in accordance to the fda.> We can however ask for research for a particular ailment, (since weare all dummies, we can do research, but we can not act on thatresearch until we speak to a physician, because we may hurt ourselvesor hurt the pocket books of the drug companies, I believe it is thelatter).> This adherence in this matter may or may not be this groups thoughtson this matter, we just need to conform to the guidelines the fda hasset up.> We can not give diagnosis of what we may think it is, and most ofall we can never use the WORD "CURE" that word that can ONLY belegally used by the drug companies.> So if you cure yourself with fresh air and sunshine, you may be inviolation of some fda guidelines.> Sorry folks, I do not like this ether.> Elaine> > > > I am in total agreement with you Teresa. ANY information ishelpful. We have the choice to go with it, look into it in moredepth. I am open to all but for sure will not go willy-nilly withanything I am not sure of.> > Judy> - > tabbott > > Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:44 AM> Re:Moderators note RE: My 25 year olddaughter needs help> > > Ok let me get this straight. The name of the group is health andhealing but I can't ask for help with health and healing. Sorry butyou have to admit thats a little confusing. > > I am not a doctor either even though I have been studying for years.That being said it's still nice to discuss issues and hear othersopinions and ideas however in the end I know that I am responsible formy choices and not the folks in a . > > If anyone has pertinent info they would like to share with meregarding my daughter please feel free to email me off list so wedon't break the rules.> > Thanks> Teresa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Government defines terms in "legalese" which is often quite different from the terminology of street language, everyday language. For an example, in Title 26 of the US tax code, the term employer is actually defined in a section of that code not as you or me employing somebody else, but rather in terms the federal government, or a state government, employing somebody directly in government, or within an agency or a governmentally created corporation (fannymae, etc.). We think of our employers as employers and they are actually quite often, but not always, outside of the meaning of the term within that title. So it is with words controlled in their usage in commerce in terms of the practice of medicine. Doctors and pharmaceuticals, surgeries, etc. all treat diseases. They "cure" or "heal" diseases. So, I made the play on words in terms of different procedures curing by killing. Kill the host and the disease is cured, is no more. They don't treat people, they treat the symptoms of various diseases by various pharmaceuticals and surgeries, cuttings. More and more the alternative/complementary health movement has also become an industry. People take what they expect with the doctors, and apply it to herbs and vitamins. They are treating for cure various groups of symptoms that are just isolated facets of the disease they carry on in their humanity. The FDA, most doctors, pharmaceutical companies, etc. can not address health wholistically. By definition they deal with health through scientific method of analyzing things that are repeated over and over and over, and hypothesizing about them and then testing the hypothesis till a working model of treating a disease is obtained. This works for some things evidence the success in some areas. But it only addresses that which is common to all of us and not our individuality. And it can not address our individuality as it would go beyond science. Another factor that enters into this is the commerciality of all of it. Alternative/complimentary is also commercial at this point in time and merely addressing factors that are not worth, commercially, addressing by the way of western medicine. But, at least it considers more facets of our health than do most of the med schools, and the pharmaceutical companies with all of their testing facilities. A "cure" gets thrown out and is not utilized by them unless they can patent it. So, all they consider is that which they can patent and make a profit on. Profit is the number one consideration of the world that the FDA promotes, and not an individual's health. The alternative/complimentary industry is profit driven as well, but more consideration is given to the individual's health than elsewise. Many of the people on this list are health professionals. Perhaps they need to address their speech and govern it by, the rules. Many of us have information, many of us merely want information. There is nothing out there that cures you that comes from anywhere but yourself. All sorts of diseases are curable, even from the point of view of death of the host. But, even as a doctor might cut out a tumor, and then it reoccurs, obviously the disease state of the person has not been cured, while the particular tumor perhaps was. Good nutrition, and having or attaining peace of mind and the correct attitudes about life, cause good health. These things do not cause what amounts to stress states within the body that open us for, and are actually the beginning of, disease states. This is why one is supposed to "eat" for the maintenance of health with an eye towards one's own weaknesses. An example of that is the person who has perhaps a supervisory role somewhere because he is seen by his supervisors as a go getter. But the truth of the matter is that perhaps, not always, he is consuming himself with the go getter attitude. Gets angry quickly, driven towards goal achievement beyond what is healthy and normal, etc. His spirit is related to achievement of something actually outside of himself, and he will never be happy with what is achieved but must always be in the process of achieving something. The stress state that this causes ends up in heart disease and cancer and a host of other things. How does one cure that? One's needs to turn one's spirit around to something else. Like peace and contentment perhaps. And then eat for the damage that the past has caused. Just my opinion on this topic and sort of just shooting the breeze. Again, there is nothing anybody can do to heal YOU. YOU take care of that. All you have to do is set the conditions that YOU need for that to occur. That is done through some of the above. That is also what all of us need more education in. And the medical establishment is probably not going to do that. That "bucks" their desire for profits from your disease. That is why they are all about "health management." They manage in order to keep on managing and making money. Ed - bobjudy Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:48 PM Heal and or cure Isn't heal another word for cure? If you are cured you are healed. Am I misunderstanding something here? Judy Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:15 AM Re:Moderators note RE: My 25 year old daughter needs help Wow, never knew that about the word "cure"!!! Is there alink to thefda page, or did ypu get a letter? I'd love to have a link for my ownrecords & research. Thanks. , Elaine <MedResearch121wrote:>> If we want to keep this group open and not have it closed down, wemust NOT ask for a diagnosis or a healing regiment, that only aphysician can do in accordance to the fda.> We can however ask for research for a particular ailment, (since weare all dummies, we can do research, but we can not act on thatresearch until we speak to a physician, because we may hurt ourselvesor hurt the pocket books of the drug companies, I believe it is thelatter).> This adherence in this matter may or may not be this groups thoughtson this matter, we just need to conform to the guidelines the fda hasset up.> We can not give diagnosis of what we may think it is, and most ofall we can never use the WORD "CURE" that word that can ONLY belegally used by the drug companies.> So if you cure yourself with fresh air and sunshine, you may be inviolation of some fda guidelines.> Sorry folks, I do not like this ether.> Elaine> > > > I am in total agreement with you Teresa. ANY information ishelpful. We have the choice to go with it, look into it in moredepth. I am open to all but for sure will not go willy-nilly withanything I am not sure of.> > Judy> - > tabbott > > Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:44 AM> Re:Moderators note RE: My 25 year olddaughter needs help> > > Ok let me get this straight. The name of the group is health andhealing but I can't ask for help with health and healing. Sorry butyou have to admit thats a little confusing. > > I am not a doctor either even though I have been studying for years.That being said it's still nice to discuss issues and hear othersopinions and ideas however in the end I know that I am responsible formy choices and not the folks in a . > > If anyone has pertinent info they would like to share with meregarding my daughter please feel free to email me off list so wedon't break the rules.> > Thanks> Teresa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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