Guest guest Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Anyone have ideas on herbs which increase the release of the hormonerelaxin >>>>Does anybody have experience using relaxin in fibromyalgia? I have strong concerns using this as it may contribute to the development of joint instability and musculoskeletal pain. alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Anyone have ideas on herbs which increase the release of the hormone relaxin? Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Does anybody have experience using relaxin in fibromyalgia? I have strong concerns using this as it may contribute to the development of joint instability and musculoskeletal pain. alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Vinod, thank you for confirming that for me! It's good to hear from an expert that I was on the right track. Have you written any books about TCM or considered doing so? You've got so much knowledge. Victoria too. I always enjoy reading both your posts because I learn so much. I'm really happy that I found this mailing list. :-) Nancy S+13 Vinod Kumar wrote: > Chinese Traditional Medicine , Nancy S+13 <nancy wrote: > > > > Vinod, I think we miscommunicated here. I'm not advocating > muscle > > relaxants. > > I understood your point - all - over Yin (pathological)conditions > can cause 'loose' joints. This is the reason why many with > generalized defeciency states often have various subluxation > processes in the spine - the joints are always sliding out of > position when stressed - and because of the dryness in the joints > they get 'stuck' in the dislocated positions. Many such patients are > often seeing Chiropractors and other body workers. Once the joints > slide out of position the muscles tense in opposing patterns and > hold the dislocation. Your comment about this being a Yang > defeciency state is true in the sense that the supporting stuctures > to the joints have insuffecient Qi to hold the joints in their > proper positions. As I mentioned before I like Astragulus as a > premier herb for supporting the upright Qi. Of course it is for > these types of problems that Accupuncture was originaly developed - > so naturally it will shine here. Blocked - stagnant - stuck - energy > patterns must be opened - activated - cleared - before the local > stresses can be resolved. Remember the original causative patterns > of these conditions are the polluted blood - which is caused > originally by poor digestion and the resulting ineffeciency of > seperating the righteous Qi from the turbid (toxic). Blood fouled by > toxins act as a stressor to the SNS - Kidney - Liver. > > I warned against the use of Relaxin just to advise caution in using > hormones for unstudied uses. I see many people who have gotten into > trouble using HRT in inappropriate ways. I have heard that many > clinicians are using Relaxin for FM and other Sympathetic Nervous > System disorders - this is not a correct understanding of Stasis > disease syndromes that are overstimulating the SNS - these are toxic > conditions that have been the local source of the tense muscles - > alkalizing substances that will nutralize acids and other blood > supporting substances go more directly to the localized issues than > Relaxin. We must be careful not to use powerful palliative > substances as they will always have side effects. Go directly to the > core issues that are polluting the Blood - Stomach/Spleen - Liver - > Kidneys - Spleen/Liver disharmony. When these issues are resolved > the Endocrine and brain chemical issues will be automatically and > naturally resolved - and the ANS will return to proper functioning > on it's own. Remove the stressors (clean up the blood)and the > muscles will relax. > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 After reading that the hormone relaxin can be used to help fibromyalgia, I contacted the Tahoma Clinic for info. They sent me a description that hails the product " Vitalaxin " as being beneficial for a great array of ills: poor memory & cognition, anxiety and nervousnes, poor motivation and low energy, decreased sensory functions, poor circulation and temperature control, insomnia and unrefreshing sleep, IBS, irritable bladder and incontinence, muscle spasm and pain, tremors and related disorders, various effects of aging, loss of hydration, aging skin, hair and nails, etc. etc. So, I called the clinic back and asked if they actually had success with this product, particularly with fibromyalgia, which is the main condition they promote it for. They are going to get back to me on that. Has anyone had experience with this relaxin hormone replacement? Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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