Jeanne - Lets not sugar coat this bill! Communicatio from Congressman Wu's Office OR

December 14, 2006

My own thought is that we seem to be the puppets on the string with government pulling the strings. If "our" representatives were on a string, we'd be able to keep the string short, or intrude on the string, or whatever (lol). We can't. They don't seem to respond to us at all.

Good example is here in Pa where a whole lot of turnover happened in this last election. The guys/women kicked out of their jobs are already being rehired into paid positions. They get to get their pensions, and their buddies in the government are appointing them to non-elective jobs, with twice the pay they had been receiving. Somebody says jump, and it seems like it is usually the public that is expected to jump.

How do we right a situation like that. A fair amount of people still go to the polls and vote. And then election results, the count, gets falsified, or something like what happened in Pennsylvania happens. Either way, there is no real change.

For 8 years people were voting more and more republicans in to office because, I imagine, they got tired of the democrats and the growth of federal budgets, etc. Now, since the republicans got that power, they took it and outdid what the democrats had been doing. Nothing changes. That includes how far and how fast the public still jumps to serve their government (with no thought that the government was supposedly designed to serve the public).

Ed

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Elaine

Friday, December 15, 2006 2:50 PM

Jeanne - Lets not sugar coat this bill! Communicatio from Congressman Wu's Office OR

Jeanne,

You are absolutely right it does not do any good to sing to the choir, it also

does not do any good to email or mail the legislators, they just send a canned reply like they sent you!

I have not seen any replies that were NOT vague, the replies did not address the matter in question of the letter or email that was sent.

Congress seem to be puppets on a string.

Elaine

Please feel free to write the congressman, because it does no good singing to the choir. If more people did communicate with their legislators, or even know who their legislators were, we'd be in better shape today as a country. IMHO, JeanneElaine <MedResearch121 > wrote:

mirakulu2003,

This congressman must not know that last year the ban on ephedra was lifted? if he does not keep up with with the laws, I wonder if he knows what he is talking about?

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/U.S._Federal_Judge_overturns_ephedra_ban

Why is it that ONE person abuses and over doses and dies, the supplement is banned, here is a supplement that has been around for thousands of years has been used for asthmatics with good results, and just recently for loosing weight, that herb is banned because of abuse of one person!

Why is it, that is OK to KILL with prescription drugs, we are not talking about ONE person, we are talking about hundreds of thousands DEAD!!! and there is still NO BAN on these prescription drugs! are they FDA Approved for killing!

Just take a look at how many thousands of people have died from cholesterol meds and now high blood pressure medications, take a look at how many have died from Splenda, aspertame nutrasweet all FDA Approved!!!!!!!!!!!! and they are still on the market.

Lets get real, Lets not sugarcoat this bill, WHY IS THIS BILL NOT FOR PRSCRIPTION DRUGS, More people are dieing from FDA approved DRUGS AND CHEMICALS MASCARADING like food!

This bill is a way to curtail dietary supplements and it will certainly restrict the mg in the supplements! like they now have restricted ephedra, they have allowed ephedra to be sold over the counter again but in only 10 mg, which is useless for asthma or weight control, so why bother to bring it back from the ban, I will tell you why, its so people will not realize that supplements or herbs are being taken away, they are not restricted over the counter purchase but they are restricting the active ingredient or the milligrams..

The bill as passed will be the first step to reduce the supplements to a quantity of active ingredient will be nill, just as has been done to ephredra, what they are doing now, already has been done in other countries, to were you can no longer purchase enzymes , vit C in only 60 mg and so on.

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U.S. Federal Judge overturns ephedra ban

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April 15, 2005

A Park City, Utah, nutritional supplement manufacturer won its appeal against the FDA on Wednesday as a Federal Judge lifted a ban and sent the case back to the agency for revised rulemaking in accordance with the court’s decision.

Judge Tena Campbell ruled that no further enforcement of the FDA action can take place until the FDA reviews its current regulation.

Neutraceutical claimed in its lawsuit that the product “has been safely consumed” for hundreds of years and is not harmful at low ephedrine product levels. The FDA had decided to ban the supplement based on a reverse logic that the product had to be proven safe. The lawsuit effectively argued that it is the FDA’s task to prove that all dosage levels of ephedrine were unsafe. The court agreed with the manufacturer that this assumption could not be proven and, when taken in low doses, less than 10 mg, that agree with the product labeling, ephedrine was not shown to be an “unreasonable or significant risk.”

A group of private researchers claimed that ephedra was the most dangerous herbal product on the market. They collected data from poison control centers. It was not considered to be a drug and could not be controlled the way pharmaceuticals were, and was sold over the counter.

The death in 2003 of 23-year old Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler brought a slew of negative reports on the product that foreshadowed a sharp drop in sales.

Source

AP wire services "Judge strikes down FDA ban on ephedra". Baseball category: USATODAY.com, April 14, 2005 American Herbal Products Association "Court Overturns FDA Ban on Low-dose Ephedra Products". Natural and Nutritional Products Industry Center, April 14, 2005 HealthDay Staff "Ephedra Ban Lifted by U.S. District Judge". Forbes.com:, April 14, 2005

======= At 2006-12-12, 22:17:39 you wrote: =======

> Jeanne:

>

> This bill is in no way intended to curtail dietary supplements and it

> will not restrict over the counter purchase. The bill as passed

> requires a manufacturer, packer, or distributor of dietary supplements

> to: (1) submit to the Secretary of HHS within 15 business days any

> report of a serious adverse event associated with use of such drug or

> supplement in the United States; (2) submit within 15 business days

> any related medical information that is received within one year of

> the initial report; (3) maintain records related to each report for

> six years; and (4) permit inspection of such records. It also requires

> the Secretary to develop systems to ensure that duplicate reports of a

> serious adverse event are consolidated. It is just a way to keep track

> of dangerous outcomes, which has definitely happened with certain

> supplements, like ephedra.

>

> As to HR 2995/S517, the Congressman has not taken a formal position on

> the bill yet, but I can tell you he has voiced concerns that this

> subject area but not be entered into lightly.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

December 15, 2006

Jeanne,You are absolutely right it does not do any good to sing to the choir, it also does not do any good to email or mail the legislators, they just send a canned reply like they sent you!I have not seen any replies that were NOT vague, the replies did not address the matter in question of the letter or email that was sent.Congress seem to be puppets on a string.Elaine Please feel free to write the congressman, because it does no good singing to the choir. If more people did communicate with their legislators, or even know who their legislators were, we'd be in better shape today as a country. IMHO, JeanneElaine <MedResearch121 wrote:mirakulu2003, This congressman must not know that last year the ban on ephedra was lifted? if he does not keep up with with the laws, I wonder if he knows what he is talking about?http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/U.S._Federal_Judge_overturns_ephedra_ban Why is it that ONE person abuses and over doses and dies, the supplement is banned, here is a supplement that has been around for thousands of years has been used for asthmatics with good results, and just recently for loosing weight, that herb is banned because of abuse of one person! Why is it, that is OK to KILL with prescription drugs, we are not talking about ONE person, we are talking about hundreds of thousands DEAD!!! and there is still NO BAN on these prescription drugs! are they FDA Approved for killing! Just take a look at how many thousands of people have died from cholesterol meds and now high blood pressure medications, take a look at how many have died from Splenda, aspertame nutrasweet all FDA Approved!!!!!!!!!!!! and they are still on the market. Lets get real, Lets not sugarcoat this bill, WHY IS THIS BILL NOT FOR PRSCRIPTION DRUGS, More people are dieing from FDA approved DRUGS AND CHEMICALS MASCARADING like food! This bill is a way to curtail dietary supplements and it will certainly restrict the mg in the supplements! like they now have restricted ephedra, they have allowed ephedra to be sold over the counter again but in only 10 mg, which is useless for asthma or weight control, so why bother to bring it back from the ban, I will tell you why, its so people will not realize that supplements or herbs are being taken away, they are not restricted over the counter purchase but they are restricting the active ingredient or the milligrams.. The bill as passed will be the first step to reduce the supplements to a quantity of active ingredient will be nill, just as has been done to ephredra, what they are doing now, already has been done in other countries, to were you can no longer purchase enzymes , vit C in only 60 mg and so on. ______U.S. Federal Judge overturns ephedra banFrom Wikinews, the free news source you can write!Jump to: navigation, searchApril 15, 2005A Park City, Utah, nutritional supplement manufacturer won its appeal against the FDA on Wednesday as a Federal Judge lifted a ban and sent the case back to the agency for revised rulemaking in accordance with the court’s decision.Judge Tena Campbell ruled that no further enforcement of the FDA action can take place until the FDA reviews its current regulation.Neutraceutical claimed in its lawsuit that the product “has been safely consumed” for hundreds of years and is not harmful at low ephedrine product levels. The FDA had decided to ban the supplement based on a reverse logic that the product had to be proven safe. The lawsuit effectively argued that it is the FDA’s task to prove that all dosage levels of ephedrine were unsafe. The court agreed with the manufacturer that this assumption could not be proven and, when taken in low doses, less than 10 mg, that agree with the product labeling, ephedrine was not shown to be an “unreasonable or significant risk.”A group of private researchers claimed that ephedra was the most dangerous herbal product on the market. They collected data from poison control centers. It was not considered to be a drug and could not be controlled the way pharmaceuticals were, and was sold over the counter.The death in 2003 of 23-year old Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler brought a slew of negative reports on the product that foreshadowed a sharp drop in sales.SourceAP wire services "Judge strikes down FDA ban on ephedra". Baseball category: USATODAY.com, April 14, 2005 American Herbal Products Association "Court Overturns FDA Ban on Low-dose Ephedra Products". Natural and Nutritional Products Industry Center, April 14, 2005 HealthDay Staff "Ephedra Ban Lifted by U.S. District Judge". Forbes.com:, April 14, 2005 ======= At 2006-12-12, 22:17:39 you wrote: ======= > Jeanne:> > > > This bill is in no way intended to curtail dietary supplements and it> will not restrict over the counter purchase. The bill as passed> requires a manufacturer, packer, or distributor of dietary supplements> to: (1) submit to the Secretary of HHS within 15 business days any> report of a serious adverse event associated with use of such drug or> supplement in the United States; (2) submit within 15 business days> any related medical information that is received within one year of> the initial report; (3) maintain records related to each report for> six years; and (4) permit inspection of such records. It also requires> the Secretary to develop systems to ensure that duplicate reports of a> serious adverse event are consolidated. It is just a way to keep track> of dangerous outcomes, which has definitely happened with certain> supplements, like ephedra.> > > > As to HR 2995/S517, the Congressman has not taken a formal position on> the bill yet, but I can tell you he has voiced concerns that this> subject area but not be entered into lightly.> > > > Hope this helps.> > >