I have a question:Have human beings a moral right to eat meat?

[Guest guest]

Hello, my friends! I am an vegetarian. I stopped eating meat and fisn in

2000. During that period my thoughts, feelings, mentality have been

changing. Now, the smell of all kind of meat(fresh killed or cooked)

disgusts me. I have asked myself many times: " If there (on the Earth)

there were creatures that were more intelligent, smarter and much more

stronger that us, human beings, and if their prefered food was human

flesh... Then...What would be our feelings and thoughts, our behaviour

towards them? " Excuse me! Maybe my question is very unpleasant and

sinister for you? But have you ever thought of the inner life of the

victims of our appetite? Have human beings got a moral right to eat

meat? ARE WE CIVILIZED INDEED? What do you think of it? I will be glad

to have your answers! Best wishes: Niki

, MRSCM4871 wrote:

>

>

> IAHF List:

> I need you all to spring into IMMEDIATE MOTION- THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

Norm

> Singleton in Congressman Paul's office informs us that D-Day is

Tomorrow

> Wednesday November 6th- the Senate will vote on S.3546/ HR6168 Dietary

Supplement

> and Nonprescription Drug Consumer Protection Act, and it could also be

> slammed through the House at high speed before the lame duck ends

Friday- without

> any debate or hearings of any kind, even though its opposed by a

substantial

> segment* of the supplement industry and by millions of consumers.

> [* Nature's Plus, Solgar, Nutraceutical,Life Extension Foundation,

Wellness

> Resources, Vitamin Research Products and many other small vitamin

companies

> totally OPPOSE the NPA (formerly NNFA) Party Line on this bill.]

> The moment of TRUTH is at hand. Will tomorrow be D-DAY for the Dietary

> Supplement Industry, or will it be a day in which the American people

stand up

> and ROAR with righteous indignation and so NO TO S.3546/HR 6168?

> WHAT YOU MUST DO & WHY:

> 1. Read the letter below to House Majority Leader Boehner (pronounced

> " Bayner " )

> 2. Call the following key members via the Capital Switchboard and

either use

> your own words or use the phone script below:

> HASTERT, BOEHNER ( " BAYNER " ), PELOSI- (Call via Capital Switchboard

> 202-225-3121. Its ok to call after hours and leave mssgs in the voice

mail of each

> office, the switchboard is manned 24/7 for that purpose to put your

call

> through.

> WHAT TO SAY:

> " A large sector of the Dietary Supplement industry including Solgar,

> Nutraceutical Corp, Nature's Plus, Life Extension Foundation, Wellness

Resources and

> many other companies oppose S.S.3546/ HR6168 Dietary Supplement and

> Nonprescription Drug Consumer Protection Act. This legislation has

nothing in it to

> determine causality of an Adverse event. Safe dietary supplements

would be

> wrongly blamed for problems actually caused by pharmaceutical drugs

taken

> concurrently with one or more dietary supplements- and there would be

no medical

> or scientific review required by FDA before they could release the

flawed

> " data " released by this witch hunt. This would be a trial lawyers

dream, but its

> not good government and it would do nothing to protect the public

health.

> There must be hearings on this legislation, and there must be changes

made to

> its language before it would actually serve its intended purpose. Do

not ram

> it through on us during the lame duck- if you do, you will enrage the

millions

> of dietary supplements who flooded congress with more mail during the

> campaign to pass DSHEA than Congress ever received in its history on

ANY issue. "

> Send this by email or fax to Boehner, Pelosi, Hastert + your own

congressman

> and Senators

> Donations urgently needed by IAHF to send me back to DC for more work.

If

> this doesn't go through during the lame duck, I'll really need to get

back

> during the next congress (in January) not only about this, but also

about the

> FDA's Trilateral Cooperation Charter.

> Donations can be sent to IAHF 556 Boundary Bay Rd. Point Roberts WA

98281

> Dear Majority Leader Boehner, (Pronounced " Bayner " ) There is currently

> legislation pending in Congress (S. 3546/ H.R 6168) that would create

a

> mandatory adverse event reporting (AER) system at the Food and Drug

Administration

> (FDA) for dietary supplements (i.e. vitamin C, vitamin E, calcium,

etc.).

> Although this legislation has been characterized by some as a

" compromise bill "

> that has been agreed to by the industry, that characterization is

absolutely

> not true. A significant representation of our multi-billion dollar

industry

> has voiced significant concerns opposing this big government, trial

lawyer

> friendly legislation. I wanted you to know that our company, and its

thousands

> of distributors and retailers in your district and throughout this

nation,

> strenuously oppose S. 3546 and H.R. 6168. Even at this late date, the

AER bill

> has not passed the Senate. We hear that it is to be passed out of the

> Senate without debate, then slipped through the House at the last

date, WITHOUT A

> COMMITTEE HEARING, and forced on our industry and millions of

consumers. We

> urge you to join us and oppose this last minute legislation. The AER

bill’s

> true goal is to expand government, spend millions of taxpayer dollars,

cost

> American industry millions of dollars to comply with no clear goal of

what

> may or may not be accomplished, and finally, needlessly diminish

consumer

> choice. The AER bill imposes a significant and unjustified layer of

bureaucracy

> that neither the FDA, the public, nor supplement industry has

requested or been

> demonstrated to be scientifically or factually needed or justified.

This

> effort is simply and plainly an attempt by the primarily Democratic

Party

> segment of the House and Senate that want big government regulation

and control

> over the benign industry of dietary supplements. Vitamins and herbal

remedies

> do not present a medical, scientific or regulatory threat to the

health of

> the millions of Americans that take them on a daily basis. We plead

for your

> support to oppose this horrible legislation. The existing reporting

system

> (FDA's MedWatch Program) allows medical professionals an opportunity

to direct

> complaints involving prescription drugs, non-prescription drugs,

dietary

> supplements and other food products to FDA through the MedWatch

program. The

> pending AER bill replaces this with a burdensome and punitive

bureaucratic

> process on thousands of manufacturers, tens of thousands of

distributors and

> hundreds of thousands of retailers (such as Whole Food Markets or your

> neighborhood health food store) to make medical decisions of whether

an " adverse event "

> has occurred or not. This bill mandates no medical or scientific

review by

> the FDA. Clearly, this effort is solely by those that favor big

government

> regulation first, trial lawyers second, and science and facts only a

distant

> third. At the very least, the bill should be amended to include a

medical

> review process to determine causation before FDA releases these

reports. We have

> been working closely with Chairman Barton and his staff, as well as

other

> members of the Health Subcommittee over the last several months on

improving

> the legislation to best meet its stated goal of consumer protection.

> Unfortunately, time has nearly run out on the 109th Congress and

Chairman Barton has

> not held a hearing and mark-up of this bill in the Energy and Commerce

> Committee as was expected. Had a hearing been held, that committee

would have

> heard loudly from the manufacturers, distributors, retailers and

consumers of

> dietary supplements that strongly oppose the bill in its current form.

As has

> been rumored, we are very concerned about this legislation being

brought to

> the floor next week without the benefit of a hearing and mark-up in

either

> chamber of Congress. We are especially worried that the bill would be

heard on

> the suspension calendar without the possibility of floor amendments

being

> offered. The far-reaching effects of this bill and its lack of

consensus

> warrant full consideration of its issues in the 110th Congress. We

respectfully

> and humbly request that you oppose consideration of S. 3546 and H.R.

6168 in

> the House in the closing days of the 109th Congress. Thank you for

your

> consideration of this most important matter. Thank you for you proven

leadership

> and impeccable service to our nation. Sincerely, For Health Freedom,

John C.

> Hammell, President International Advocates for Health Freedom 556

Boundary

> Bay Road Point Roberts, WA 98281-8702 USA http://www.iahf.com jham

> 800-333-2553 N.America 360-945-0352 World

>

[Guest guest]

Where are you on the food chain?  If there

were dinosaurs alive today they would certainly eat us.  Meat provides many

essential enzymes your body needs, wait a few more years and see how you are

doing.  We limit our intake but once or twice a week we have meat, mostly

chicken or venison.  Everyone has a right to their choice, it is not for you to

judge or make morality claims. Thanks Kathy

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of bulgarianloveangel

Wednesday, December 06, 2006

6:54 AM

 

I

have a question: " Have human beings a moral right to eat meat? "

 

 

 

 

 

Hello, my friends! I am an vegetarian. I stopped

eating meat and fisn in

2000. During that period my thoughts, feelings, mentality have been

changing. Now, the smell of all kind of meat(fresh killed or cooked)

disgusts me. I have asked myself many times: " If there (on the Earth)

there were creatures that were more intelligent, smarter and much more

stronger that us, human beings, and if their prefered food was human

flesh... Then...What would be our feelings and thoughts, our behaviour

towards them? " Excuse me! Maybe my question is very unpleasant and

sinister for you? But have you ever thought of the inner life of the

victims of our appetite? Have human beings got a moral right to eat

meat? ARE WE CIVILIZED INDEED? What do you think of it? I will be glad

to have your answers! Best wishes: Niki

,

MRSCM4871 wrote:

>

>

> IAHF List:

> I need you all to spring into IMMEDIATE MOTION- THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

Norm

> Singleton in Congressman Paul's office informs us that D-Day is

Tomorrow

> Wednesday November 6th- the Senate will vote on S.3546/ HR6168 Dietary

Supplement

> and Nonprescription Drug Consumer Protection Act, and it could also be

> slammed through the House at high speed before the lame duck ends

Friday- without

> any debate or hearings of any kind, even though its opposed by a

substantial

> segment* of the supplement industry and by millions of consumers.

> [* Nature's Plus, Solgar, Nutraceutical,Life Extension Foundation,

Wellness

> Resources, Vitamin Research Products and many other small vitamin

companies

> totally OPPOSE the NPA (formerly NNFA) Party Line on this bill.]

> The moment of TRUTH is at hand. Will tomorrow be D-DAY for the Dietary

> Supplement Industry, or will it be a day in which the American people

stand up

> and ROAR with righteous indignation and so NO TO S.3546/HR 6168?

> WHAT YOU MUST DO & WHY:

> 1. Read the letter below to House Majority Leader Boehner (pronounced

> " Bayner " )

> 2. Call the following key members via the Capital Switchboard and

either use

> your own words or use the phone script below:

> HASTERT, BOEHNER ( " BAYNER " ), PELOSI- (Call via Capital

Switchboard

> 202-225-3121. Its ok to call after hours and leave mssgs in the voice

mail of each

> office, the switchboard is manned 24/7 for that purpose to put your

call

> through.

> WHAT TO SAY:

> " A large sector of the Dietary Supplement industry including Solgar,

> Nutraceutical Corp, Nature's Plus, Life Extension Foundation, Wellness

Resources and

> many other companies oppose S.S.3546/ HR6168 Dietary Supplement and

> Nonprescription Drug Consumer Protection Act. This legislation has

nothing in it to

> determine causality of an Adverse event. Safe dietary supplements

would be

> wrongly blamed for problems actually caused by pharmaceutical drugs

taken

> concurrently with one or more dietary supplements- and there would be

no medical

> or scientific review required by FDA before they could release the

flawed

> " data " released by this witch hunt. This would be a trial

lawyers

dream, but its

> not good government and it would do nothing to protect the public

health.

> There must be hearings on this legislation, and there must be changes

made to

> its language before it would actually serve its intended purpose. Do

not ram

> it through on us during the lame duck- if you do, you will enrage the

millions

> of dietary supplements who flooded congress with more mail during the

> campaign to pass DSHEA than Congress ever received in its history on

ANY issue. "

> Send this by email or fax to Boehner, Pelosi, Hastert + your own

congressman

> and Senators

> Donations urgently needed by IAHF to send me back to DC for more work.

If

> this doesn't go through during the lame duck, I'll really need to get

back

> during the next congress (in January) not only about this, but also

about the

> FDA's Trilateral Cooperation Charter.

> Donations can be sent to IAHF 556 Boundary Bay Rd. Point Roberts WA

98281

> Dear Majority Leader Boehner, (Pronounced " Bayner " ) There is

currently

> legislation pending in Congress (S. 3546/ H.R 6168) that would create

a

> mandatory adverse event reporting (AER) system at the Food and Drug

Administration

> (FDA) for dietary supplements (i.e. vitamin C, vitamin E, calcium,

etc.).

> Although this legislation has been characterized by some as a

" compromise bill "

> that has been agreed to by the industry, that characterization is

absolutely

> not true. A significant representation of our multi-billion dollar

industry

> has voiced significant concerns opposing this big government, trial

lawyer

> friendly legislation. I wanted you to know that our company, and its

thousands

> of distributors and retailers in your district and throughout this

nation,

> strenuously oppose S. 3546 and H.R. 6168. Even at this late date, the

AER bill

> has not passed the Senate. We hear that it is to be passed out of the

> Senate without debate, then slipped through the House at the last

date, WITHOUT A

> COMMITTEE HEARING, and forced on our industry and millions of

consumers. We

> urge you to join us and oppose this last minute legislation. The AER

bill’s

> true goal is to expand government, spend millions of taxpayer dollars,

cost

> American industry millions of dollars to comply with no clear goal of

what

> may or may not be accomplished, and finally, needlessly diminish

consumer

> choice. The AER bill imposes a significant and unjustified layer of

bureaucracy

> that neither the FDA, the public, nor supplement industry has

requested or been

> demonstrated to be scientifically or factually needed or justified.

This

> effort is simply and plainly an attempt by the primarily Democratic

Party

> segment of the House and Senate that want big government regulation

and control

> over the benign industry of dietary supplements. Vitamins and herbal

remedies

> do not present a medical, scientific or regulatory threat to the

health of

> the millions of Americans that take them on a daily basis. We plead

for your

> support to oppose this horrible legislation. The existing reporting

system

> (FDA's MedWatch Program) allows medical professionals an opportunity

to direct

> complaints involving prescription drugs, non-prescription drugs,

dietary

> supplements and other food products to FDA through the MedWatch

program. The

> pending AER bill replaces this with a burdensome and punitive

bureaucratic

> process on thousands of manufacturers, tens of thousands of

distributors and

> hundreds of thousands of retailers (such as Whole Food Markets or your

> neighborhood health food store) to make medical decisions of whether

an " adverse event "

> has occurred or not. This bill mandates no medical or scientific

review by

> the FDA. Clearly, this effort is solely by those that favor big

government

> regulation first, trial lawyers second, and science and facts only a

distant

> third. At the very least, the bill should be amended to include a

medical

> review process to determine causation before FDA releases these

reports. We have

> been working closely with Chairman Barton and his staff, as well as

other

> members of the Health Subcommittee over the last several months on

improving

> the legislation to best meet its stated goal of consumer protection.

> Unfortunately, time has nearly run out on the 109th Congress and

Chairman Barton has

> not held a hearing and mark-up of this bill in the Energy and Commerce

> Committee as was expected. Had a hearing been held, that committee

would have

> heard loudly from the manufacturers, distributors, retailers and

consumers of

> dietary supplements that strongly oppose the bill in its current form.

As has

> been rumored, we are very concerned about this legislation being

brought to

> the floor next week without the benefit of a hearing and mark-up in

either

> chamber of Congress. We are especially worried that the bill would be

heard on

> the suspension calendar without the possibility of floor amendments

being

> offered. The far-reaching effects of this bill and its lack of

consensus

> warrant full consideration of its issues in the 110th Congress. We

respectfully

> and humbly request that you oppose consideration of S. 3546 and H.R.

6168 in

> the House in the closing days of the 109th Congress. Thank you for

your

> consideration of this most important matter. Thank you for you proven

leadership

> and impeccable service to our nation. Sincerely, For Health Freedom,

John C.

> Hammell, President International Advocates for Health Freedom 556

Boundary

> Bay Road Point Roberts, WA 98281-8702 USA

http://www.iahf.com jham

> 800-333-2553 N.America 360-945-0352 World

>