Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Miracle ll moisturizing soap, unless you have a very oily situation , then use the m-ll regular...been using this for over 7 years now....you can also brush teeth , shave, clean anything that water won't hurt...once swallowed, it helps get rid of toxic chemicals, heavy metals, bacteria, viruses, basically any thing that does not belong to you! Ditto for pets!!!!! Visit miracle 2.com or just do a search for m-ll and take your pick!! Kraig ****** Kraig and Shirley Carroll ... in the woods of SE Kentucky http://www.thehavens.com/ thehavens 606-376-3363 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release 2/14/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Miracle II moisturizing soap is ok to use as a hair shampoo unless a person is sensitive to sodium laurel sulfate, which is a well known skin irritant. I believe that sodium laurel sulfate (SLS) is the primary foaming agent in the M-II moisturizing soap and regular soap, although it's not clearly labelled on the soaps as SLS but listed as coconut derivative which is what SLS is also, and I suspect it was the SLS that caused my skin to become irritated as well as my wife's when we used it as a hair shampoo. A friend had an old empty bottle of M-II soap labeled with sodium laurel sulfate but the labels were later changed to suggest it was no longer present because of misinformation efforts at the time that SLS was cancer causing, which it is not, yet it does irritate the skin of sensitive individuals. Of course, many products out there are not accurately labeled or labeled at all, especially the trace ingredients less than 1%. But SLS is routinely labelled on most products such as commercial shampoos, soaps, toothpaste and other products where it is the primary foaming agent and surfactant. Some chemically sensitive people can not use any products containing SLS in it, including Miracle II soaps according to a chemically sensitive networker I know. Sodium laurel sulfate is the basic standard chemical used in the cosmetic industry in determining degree of skin irritability of new products or substances not previously tested for skin sensitivity. Few approved substances are more irritating to the skin than SLS, but it's definitely irritating to certain individuals according to MSDS sheets supplied by the manufacturers of the product if you look them up on the internet. Sodium laurel sulfate is particularly well known as an engine degreasing agent since it is excellent at cleaning any kind of grease, oil, and hard to clean residues. I do not consider myself chemically sensitive and was surprised to have irritated skin with the M-II soaps but it feels the same to me as when I used to take a shower in chlorinated water where the chlorine lightly burns the skin. I was born dehydrated with wrinkled skin and my mother had to wash me with vegetable oil for several months due to my dry skin. Because SLS is also a powerful penetrating agent, it's capable of carrying other chemicals along with in through the skin into the body and that's another reason I prefer to avoid products with SLS. Many people have reported benefits from using M-II soaps and products with the SLS as it does help to detoxify the system of synthetic chemicals. Neil Carman At 1:24 PM -0400 8/31/06, The Havens wrote: >Miracle ll moisturizing soap, unless you have a very oily situation , then >use the m-ll regular...been using this for over 7 years now....you can also >brush teeth , shave, clean anything that water won't hurt...once swallowed, >it helps get rid of toxic chemicals, heavy metals, bacteria, viruses, >basically any thing that does not belong to you! Ditto for >pets!!!!! Visit miracle 2.com or just do a search for m-ll and take your >pick!! Kraig >****** >Kraig and Shirley Carroll ... in the woods of SE Kentucky >http://www.thehavens.com/ >thehavens >606-376-3363 > > > >´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ª > > >ß - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! ß > >Subscribe:......... - > >´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ª >Other like groups: > >MedicalConspiracies > >Subscribe: MedicalConspiracies- >Post message: MedicalConspiracies >List owner: MedicalConspiracies-owner > >´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ª > >1400 Member Group: MedicalConspiracies (One Word)at Google groups: > >http://groups.google.comMedicalConspiracies > >Post message: MedicalConspiracies (AT) googl (DOT) com >Subscribe: MedicalConspiracies- (AT) googl (DOT) com > >´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ªß´§ª*´§ª > >Any information here in is for educational >purpose only, it may be news related, purely >speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult >with a qualified health practitioner before >deciding on any course of treatment, especially >for serious or life-threatening illnesses. >**COPYRIGHT NOTICE** >In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, >any copyrighted work in this message is >distributed under fair use without profit or >payment to those who have expressed a prior >interest in receiving the included information >for non-profit research and educational purposes >only. >http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Sodium Laurel Sulfate (SLS) by itself is not carcinogenic; however, it combines with anolamines such as TEA, DEA or MEA to create nitrosamines in the body. Anolamines are frequently found in chemical body care products and are use to adjust pH and also used with fatty acids to convert acids to salts and thus become the base of the cleanser. Nitrosamines are the same chemicals that are produced when the body consumes hot dogs and/or cold cuts that have been made with sodium nitrite. Nitrosames are known to be carcinogenic. I choose to use certified organic products so that I don't have to worry about the toxicity of the chemicals in my body care products. If I can't pronounce it or wouldn't want to eat it then I choose not to put it on my body either. After all what you put on your skin lands being absorbed into the body. So you are in fact feeding your skin when you use any type of topical body care. Namaste, Cheryl Rounds.www.blissfullyorganic.com Helping to heal the planet one person at a time How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Neil, there is NO sls in m-ll products!! How about you going to the source and find out for your self.....Clayton Tedeton is the founder and manufacturer and is very accessible when ever he is not traveling......fda has been all over m-ll several times and all i can share with you is, Nothing has ever changed in relation to the ingredients listed on the label and sls is NOT on the label!! Please let me know if you wish to make contact with him.... Kraig ****** Kraig and Shirley Carroll ... in the woods of SE Kentucky http://www.thehavens.com/ thehavens 606-376-3363 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.859 / Virus Database: 585 - Release 2/14/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Kraig, " Ash of Dodecyl " is not identified as to its chemical structure of the numbers of carbon, oxygen and hydrogen atoms, or their specific chemical arrangement as a compound. Yet it's reasonable to assume that it is a chemical compound containing a certain number of carbons and hydrogen atoms plus perhaps oxygen. Can you confirm that the chemical structure and formula of the ingredient labeled as " Ash of Dodecyl " is not exactly the same as the chemical structure and formula of sodium laurel sulfate? Or please confirm that the chemical " Ash of Dodecyl " is different from sodium laurel sulfate and please explain what is chemically different between the two compounds. If you can not confirm that they are different substances by their structure and formula, I believe sodium laurel sulfate may be mislabeled as the " Ash of Dodecyl " on the products. In addition, " Ash of Dodecyl " is not commonly known as a chemical specific term from which one could readily decipher its chemical structure and formula, according to the standardized international rules of chemical nomenclature which have been around for many decades for naming chemicals. Even if " Ash of Dodecyl " is a unique trade name used by only one company, it has to have a specific chemical structure and formula like other chemicals. I am not aware of any other company using the term " Ash of Dodecyl " on their label, but many others do have SLS on their labels indicating its presence as an ingredient. So this may or may not mean anything, but for sure those using SLS place it on their labels. Questions: 1. Have you ever asked the Louisiana manufacturer for a copy of the MSDS sheets and the precise chemical formula and structure of the " Ash of Dodecyl " ? Please see if they will supply it. 2. Have you ever compared the chemical formula of " Ash of Dodecyl " to sodium laurel sulfate? If you compare the characteristics of " Ash of Dodecyl " and sodium laurel sulfate, I think you will find them to be virtually identical as exceptional foaming agents and powerful surfactants to clean up oil soluble residues and grease. That's why many commercial products today list SLS since it's such as outstanding foaming agent and surfactant. " Ash of Dodecyl " is not further identified on the M-II soap container labels, but I have never come across such a name in the field of inorganic or organic chemistry, except the word " dodecyl " may originate from Latin meaning ten like possessing ten carbon atoms. Chemical nomenclature uses Latin words to identify every compound based on its chemical structure and a compound with ten carbons could be called dodecyl something. Now sodium laurel sulfate I believe also has ten carbon atoms since lauric acid has ten and possibly " Ash of Dodecyl " does too, but one can not determine that fact from the name " Ash of Dodecyl " . At any rate, the name " Ash of Dodecyl " is a made-up term as best I can tell and has no chemical meaning based on chemical nomenclature. Neil At 8:02 PM -0400 9/5/06, The Havens wrote: >Neil, there is NO sls in m-ll products!! How about you going to the >source and find out for your self.....Clayton Tedeton is the founder and >manufacturer and is very accessible when ever he is not traveling......fda >has been all over m-ll several times and all i can share with you >is, Nothing has ever changed in relation to the ingredients listed on the >label and sls is NOT on the label!! Please let me know if you wish to >make contact with him.... 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