Herbal Remedies - Granny Lee - RA

March 23, 2004

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SpareRibOfAz

, leo writes:

The RA hits my right foot mercylessly at times and the swelling goes up and down from that, so i have several pairs of shoes of different sizes but keep a couple prs of arch supports to have handy.

love.. granny lee

Granny Lee...

Have you done Doc Ian's total body cleanse?? RA is just horrible pain... I feel for ya.

God Bless,

Jamie in AZ

very similar.. have used Dr Schulze's formula 1 since 1994 when Jim Gearhart and i were at a hfs and he gave me the list of herbs he was filling for it. it is the same as Docs and it is good. i really don't seem to have a problem with my evacuations but i might ought to take a couple of weeks of it just to be sure. i take it off and on when i think i need it, but it is really hot and sometimes when i take too much i have anal bleeding. what i really need to do is more carrot/cabbage/apple juices.

oh.. my feet have been behaving fairly well the past three weeks and have actually been able to wear my old 6.5 size Reeboks yesterday and today.!!! some of my shoes are 7 and 7.5's wide that i have had to get in order to have something i could wear outside. also made slits in some of my old gardeniing shoes.<G>

many of the supplements i have been taking are ones that originated with this mail list. they have been most helpful. here is the mess i am taking daily now.

TT on anything i can think of, MSM 2xdaily, PP 2xdaily if dont forget, fruits and nuts for breakfast, usually sugarless pineapple and raw apple with raisins and cashews, 1 cup of coffee...but it is a BIG one<G> 9mg prednisone, (doing a weaning on the pred) naproxin, plaquenil, Vit E, Flaxseed oil, multivitamins, calcium..i think that is all.. the at lunch i have homemade chicken broth with whole parts of chicken with rice and vetetables or beans and rice with vegetables, baked chicken breast etc...etc.. along with a set of supplements my daughter bought for me by Mannatech which are too pricy for me! She bought them for a friend who had cancer but wouldn't use them and died so i sort of inherited them. for dinner i have an organic egg in soy or almond or rice milk and a heapin' tbs of TN and a litttle extra ginger and cinnamin and maybe a few sprouted almonds. before my 2 night meds (plaquanil and naproxin) i may have a small bowl of wheat bran flakes. i also take (AS NEEDED now that my stomach is so much better) acidophius, DGL and vegetable enzymes.

just started a couple of weeks ago (when bone scan showed bad osteo in spine) 70mg folsamax once a week half hour before breakfast.

i got some organic honey today and am going to take it with the cinnamon. I also take some taheebo tea as well as maybe catnip, or chamomile, or other blends i have on hand, and drink at least 8 big glasses of water daily, sipping them through out the day. neighbors think i am an alcohlic as i seem to have a glass in my hand all the timeG>

i am really a lot better, but still have very sore places ..on which i have been slathering the DTR oil and it has really been good. and the long uscles in my arms are atrophying, even with isometric and hand grippig exercises, but that is normal for my age especially with RA.

i also made some cabbage juice like Don told me and hope it will be just right for a late drink this evening enstead of my usual evening glass of lemonade (1/2 lemon and stevia).

i think i am doing about all i can ..or maybe too much.. but i am in better condition than i was 6 months ago except for the loss of muscle tone. my skin is looking better, though. I think a lot of the improvement is from what i have learned on this mail group. thanks to all of you.

now you know more than i do..cause you know what you know and also what i know !!! heheheheh!!!!

love.. granny lee

March 24, 2004

GOOD GRIEF LEE!!!! I THINK YOU NEED TO START OVER, HERE.. the "too much" part is an understatement... Do you have time for anything else during the day.lol....

See my remarks below..

Suzileo <leo wrote:

very similar.. have used Dr Schulze's formula 1 since 1994 when Jim Gearhart and i were at a hfs and he gave me the list of herbs he was filling for it. it is the same as Docs and it is good. i really don't seem to have a problem with my evacuations but i might ought to take a couple of weeks of it just to be sure. i take it off and on when i think i need it, but it is really hot and sometimes when i take too much i have anal bleeding. what i really need to do is more carrot/cabbage/apple juices. How about a 3 day juice cleanse????

oh.. my feet have been behaving fairly well the past three weeks and have actually been able to wear my old 6.5 size Reeboks yesterday and today.!!! some of my shoes are 7 and 7.5's wide that i have had to get in order to have something i could wear outside. also made slits in some of my old gardeniing shoes.<G> Do you or have you soaked your feet every day in ACV?? at least 20 minutes.

many of the supplements i have been taking are ones that originated with this mail list. they have been most helpful. here is the mess i am taking daily now.

TT on anything i can think of, MSM 2xdaily, PP 2xdaily if dont forget, fruits and nuts for breakfast, usually sugarless pineapple and raw apple with raisins and cashews, 1 cup of coffee...but it is a BIG one<G> 9mg prednisone, (doing a weaning on the pred) naproxin,why are you taking naproxin??? plaquenil,not familiar with this what is it for?? Vit E, Flaxseed oil, multivitamins,if you're taking TN you don't need these calcium.i assume this is lemon egg?? .i think that is all.. the at lunch i have homemade chicken broth with whole parts of chicken with rice and vetetables or beans and rice with vegetables, baked chicken breast etc...etc.. along with a set of supplements my daughter bought for me by Mannatech which are too pricy for me! She bought them for a friend who had cancer

but wouldn't use them and died so i sort of inherited them. for dinner i have an organic egg in soy or almond or rice milk and a heapin' tbs of TN and a litttle extra ginger and cinnamin and maybe a few sprouted almonds. before my 2 night meds (plaquanil and naproxin) i may have a small bowl of wheat bran flakes. i also take (AS NEEDED now that my stomach is so much better) acidophius, DGL and vegetable enzymes.plant enzymes i assune?

just started a couple of weeks ago (when bone scan showed bad osteo in spine) 70mg folsamax once a week half hour before breakfast. Why are you taking fosamax if you're taking panther piss it's great for osteo, along with your msm, lemon egg.etc.

i got some organic honey today and am going to take it with the cinnamon. I also take some taheebo tea as well as maybe catnip, or chamomile, or other blends i have on hand, and drink at least 8 big glasses of water daily, sipping them through out the day. neighbors think i am an alcohlic as i seem to have a glass in my hand all the timeG>

i am really a lot better, but still have very sore places ..on which i have been slathering the DTR oil and it has really been good. and the long uscles in my arms are atrophying, even with isometric and hand grippig exercises, but that is normal for my age especially with RA. Are you doing hot/cold therapy every day???

i also made some cabbage juice like Don told me and hope it will be just right for a late drink this evening enstead of my usual evening glass of lemonade (1/2 lemon and stevia).

i think i am doing about all i can ..or maybe too much.. but i am in better condition than i was 6 months ago except for the loss of muscle tone. my skin is looking better, though. I think a lot of the improvement is from what i have learned on this mail group. thanks to all of you.

now you know more than i do..cause you know what you know and also what i know !!! heheheheh!!!!

love.. granny lee

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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March 24, 2004

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Suzanne

herbal remedies

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:19 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Granny Lee - RA

GOOD GRIEF LEE!!!! I THINK YOU NEED TO START OVER, HERE.. the "too much" part is an understatement... Do you have time for anything else during the day.lol....

See my remarks below..

Suzi

What i am doing doesn't really take much time. ...you think i'm busy with what i'm doing now...my lordy..i just very studiously went over the directions for the 3 day cleanse and that sounds like spending at least 10 hours a day guzzling! LOL!!!

and i don't know if i can handle the " Cleansing Symptoms: As your body begins to cleanse, you will probably experience periodic aches and pains in the areas where the cleaning action is most acute and the wastage is loading the elimination system; there are times when you will feel very, very rough! Do not panic on the days after cleansing or during your periods of healing. In fact, thecleaning action may produce all symptoms and effects of severe illness, but don't blame the temporary problem onto the cleansing.

As the toxic poisons break loose and are dumped into the bloodstream so they can be eliminated, you will feel pretty rough; and quite frequently during a crisis, you may feel worse than you did before you ever started the program. But do not panic! The bad days will become fewer and fewer and the good days greater and greater, if you are faithful to the program".

leo <leo wrote:

.. what i really need to do is more carrot/cabbage/apple juices. How about a 3 day juice cleanse????.....Well, i'll think about it <G>

oh.. my feet have been behaving fairly well the past three weeks and have actually been able to wear my old 6.5 size Reeboks yesterday and today.!!! some of my shoes are 7 and 7.5's wide that i have had to get in order to have something i could wear outside. also made slits in some of my old gardeniing shoes.<G> Do you or have you soaked your feet every day in ACV?? at least 20 minutes.

No, I just put the plug in the tub when showering and pour a bit of ACV in the water and stand in it while i shower,, about 20 minutes, though, i guess.

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TT on anything i can think of, MSM 2xdaily, PP 2xdaily if dont forget, fruits and nuts for breakfast, usually sugarless pineapple and raw apple with raisins and cashews, 1 cup of coffee...but it is a BIG one<G> 9mg prednisone, (doing a weaning on the pred) naproxin,why are you taking naproxin???

naproxin/Anaprax DS is same as Aleve, an NSAID taken to relieve the pain of RA.

plaquenil,not familiar with this what is it for??

Is Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate,to help slow the progression of RA.

Vit E, Flaxseed oil, multivitamins,if you're taking TN you don't need these I didn't know that!!!! i've read so many times in the group how wonderful the flax seed oil is and how necessary the omega 3 and 6's are and how important the Vit E that i figured i needed some!!

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calcium.i assume this is lemon egg?? No, i put the egg in the TN

..i think that is all.. the at lunch i have homemade chicken broth with whole parts of chicken with rice and vetetables or beans and rice with vegetables, baked chicken breast etc...etc.. along with a set of supplements my daughter bought for me by Mannatech which are too pricy for me! She bought them for a friend who had cancer but wouldn't use them and died so i sort of inherited them. for dinner i have an organic egg in soy or almond or rice milk and a heapin' tbs of TN and a litttle extra ginger and cinnamin and maybe a few sprouted almonds. before my 2 night meds (plaquanil and naproxin) i may have a small bowl of wheat bran flakes. i also take (AS NEEDED now that my stomach is so much better) acidophius, DGL and vegetable enzymes.plant enzymes i assume? Papain from Papaya and Bromalain from Pineapple

just started a couple of weeks ago (when bone scan showed bad osteo in spine) 70mg folsamax once a week half hour before breakfast. Why are you taking fosamax if you're taking panther piss it's great for osteo, along with your msm, lemon egg.etc. Because i don't know any better. i was told that this would help restore my weakened bon density and too concerned not to take it. if the msm , pp and lemon egg will rebuild them, in your opinion, then i will stop taking it.. be very happy to !

i got some organic honey today and am going to take it with the cinnamon. I also take some taheebo tea as well as maybe catnip, or chamomile, or other blends i have on hand, and drink at least 8 big glasses of water daily, sipping them through out the day. neighbors think i am an alcohlic as i seem to have a glass in my hand all the timeG>

i am really a lot better, but still have very sore places ..on which i have been slathering the DTR oil and it has really been good. and the long uscles in my arms are atrophying, even with isometric and hand grippig exercises, but that is normal for my age especially with RA. Are you doing hot/cold therapy every day??? no, just when i take shower.. really hot but haven't done the cold bit yet. I do the hot/cold on my hands but not on the feet, and i don't do it for a very long time unless they are in a really bad flare

i also made some cabbage juice like Don told me and hope it will be just right for a late drink this evening enstead of my usual evening glass of lemonade (1/2 lemon and stevia).

So.. if the cabbage juice will balance out or replace the good flora in my digestive tract... will i need to stop the veggie enzymes as well as the acidophilus????

i really appreciate your time and help on this . i find that as i get older i seem to be less able to corelate things and get a bit confused, especially when i am tired. taks again.. i go to get some rest.

love.. granny lee.. as soon as i finish reading tonite's posts <G>

i think i am doing about all i can ..or maybe too much.. but i am in better condition than i was 6 months ago except for the loss of muscle tone. my skin is looking better, though. I think a lot of the improvement is from what i have learned on this mail group. thanks to all of you.

now you know more than i do..cause you know what you know and also what i know !!! heheheheh!!!!

love.. granny lee

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

March 24, 2004

I have read the response to this email so I will only add that you should be doing much castor oil packs on your RA. Also add olive leaf capsules for the RA, start slow with a capsule per day and then after a week go up to 2. Do this until you are taking 3-4 per day, spaced out over the day ofcourse!

God Bless,

Jamie in AZ

In a message dated 3/23/2004 4:37:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, leo writes: