Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Chinese Traditional Medicine , Linda <mabelltoo@a...> wrote: > Anyone have any real information on how these two types of mold could > effect my family. Both are brewing in this apartment, due to lack of proper > air flow through. and really bad venting of dryer, and leaks in windows. > > Alternaria > > Hormodendrum > > ????????? > > My daughter is having alot of seizures after being very allergic here. Here is a good link to info on alternaria: http://www.mold.ph/alternaria_mold_picture.htm Read down and to health problems. Yes, alternaria is a significant cause of fungus allergy. The site may also have info on hormodendrum. The thing to keep in mind about molds - in addition to the Western medical info - is that if you have mold, you also have Exterior Dampness problems. Some of the symptoms of Exterior Dampness can include arthritic and rheumatic pains, fatigue, slugginess, watery skin rashes, no thirst, low fever, and sweating (which can lead to Qi Deficiency). The tongue coating will be thick and white, and the pulse slippery and floating. Exterior Pernicious Evils - including Dampness - can invade to the Interior. This is when one starts having problems like heavy, labored breathing. The fatigue and sluggishness become even worse than they were. There often is lack of appetite in addition to lack of thirst. The thinking becomes confused. The urine is cloudy, and there amy be problems with diarrhea, nausea, and vaginal discharge. There may be an oppressive feeling in the chest. There can be swelling in the Interior as well as the Exterior of the body. The tongue coating may become so thick and greasy that the tongue tissue is not visible. The pulse is slippery. (It's no longer floating because the problem has moved from the Exterior (head, shoulders, arms, legs, neck, muscles, bones, and meridians) to the Interior (Organs, trunk) of the body. A " floating " pulse is one which is felt most with the slightest pressure on the wrist. A deep pulse is one which is felt strongest with the most pressure on the wrist.) The Organ which is most vulnerable to Dampness is the Spleen. Spleen Deficiency is the most common TCM imbalance seen in cases of allergies and allergy-like symptoms. The person suffering from Interior Dampness is getting hit with a one-two punch. At the same time the Dampness is weakening the Spleen, the increased perspiration is draining off Qi. The Spleen and the Lungs are the two most important Organs in supplying Qi to the body. If the Spleen is weakened, Qi doesn't get gathered and transported like it should. The sweating further adds to the Qi Deficiency. Treatment principles include removing the Dampness and fortifying the Spleen. If there is a significant mold problem, there may be more going on than just leaky windows and vents. There may be water damage inside the walls from a leaky roof and/or from leaks in pipes. Air ionizers can help in the fight against molds (and pollens). Make sure you get one with a charcoal filter. By ionizing the air, the unit will remove even more molds and pollens than if an air filter alone was used. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 > Air ionizers can help in the fight against molds (and pollens). Make > sure you get one with a charcoal filter. By ionizing the air, the > unit will remove even more molds and pollens than if an air filter > alone was used. Are you sure that air ionizers ahd charcoal filters are the critical factors? As far as I know, ionizers will help clump particles together, but the weak charge isn't meant to kill anything. Charcoal filters will get rid of odours, but they aren't meant to filter out tiny particles. If you look at support groups for asthamtics and allergy sufferers, you will see recommendations for high end HEPA grade filtration systems. These cost $400+ USD and are available from specialized retailers. They often use 2 filters, coarse and HEPA, with long lifetimes (some up to 5 years). They are much quieter and cover greater area than cheap HEPA air filtration units. UV irradiation systems seem to be controversial. These aren't your average sufferers of bad air, but an example of the extent some people have gone to to clean their air of very small irritants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 Thanks, that pretty much explains all my symtoms and those of my girls. on 11/7/03 6:59 AM, victoria_dragon at victoria_dragon wrote: > Chinese Traditional Medicine , Linda <mabelltoo@a...> wrote: >> Anyone have any real information on how these two types of mold > could >> effect my family. Both are brewing in this apartment, due to lack > of proper >> air flow through. and really bad venting of dryer, and leaks in > windows. >> >> Alternaria >> >> Hormodendrum >> >> ????????? >> >> My daughter is having alot of seizures after being very allergic > here. > > Here is a good link to info on alternaria: > > http://www.mold.ph/alternaria_mold_picture.htm > > Read down and to health problems. Yes, alternaria > is a significant cause of fungus allergy. The site may also have info > on hormodendrum. > > The thing to keep in mind about molds - in addition to the Western > medical info - is that if you have mold, you also have Exterior > Dampness problems. Some of the symptoms of Exterior Dampness can > include arthritic and rheumatic pains, fatigue, slugginess, watery > skin rashes, no thirst, low fever, and sweating (which can lead to Qi > Deficiency). The tongue coating will be thick and white, and the > pulse slippery and floating. > > Exterior Pernicious Evils - including Dampness - can invade to the > Interior. This is when one starts having problems like heavy, > labored breathing. The fatigue and sluggishness become even worse > than they were. There often is lack of appetite in addition to lack > of thirst. The thinking becomes confused. The urine is cloudy, and > there amy be problems with diarrhea, nausea, and vaginal discharge. > There may be an oppressive feeling in the chest. There can be > swelling in the Interior as well as the Exterior of the body. The > tongue coating may become so thick and greasy that the tongue tissue > is not visible. The pulse is slippery. (It's no longer floating > because the problem has moved from the Exterior (head, shoulders, > arms, legs, neck, muscles, bones, and meridians) to the Interior > (Organs, trunk) of the body. A " floating " pulse is one which is felt > most with the slightest pressure on the wrist. A deep pulse is one > which is felt strongest with the most pressure on the wrist.) > > The Organ which is most vulnerable to Dampness is the Spleen. Spleen > Deficiency is the most common TCM imbalance seen in cases of > allergies and allergy-like symptoms. The person suffering from > Interior Dampness is getting hit with a one-two punch. At the same > time the Dampness is weakening the Spleen, the increased perspiration > is draining off Qi. The Spleen and the Lungs are the two most > important Organs in supplying Qi to the body. If the Spleen is > weakened, Qi doesn't get gathered and transported like it should. > The sweating further adds to the Qi Deficiency. > > Treatment principles include removing the Dampness and fortifying the > Spleen. > > If there is a significant mold problem, there may be more going on > than just leaky windows and vents. There may be water damage inside > the walls from a leaky roof and/or from leaks in pipes. > > Air ionizers can help in the fight against molds (and pollens). Make > sure you get one with a charcoal filter. By ionizing the air, the > unit will remove even more molds and pollens than if an air filter > alone was used. > > Victoria > > > > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2003 Report Share Posted November 7, 2003 > Are you sure that air ionizers ahd charcoal filters are the critical > factors? As far as I know, ionizers will help clump particles together, but > the weak charge isn't meant to kill anything. Charcoal filters will get rid > of odours, but they aren't meant to filter out tiny particles. The charcoal filters aren't meant to filter out particles but are needed to protect people and pets from possible harmful effects of the ionization. Sorry but I don't remember the details as it's been a long time since I studied it. The ionization won't kill anything, it will clump particles, making sure that more particles are caught in the filters. The bigger the particles, the more likely they will be caught in the filters and the less that will be floating around to be breathed in. One other word of advice for people who have never used an ionizer air cleaner before: Clean the wall behind the unit and the surface under it regularly as they will get nasty sticky. If your furniture (or rugs) are good quality, you might even want to put something solid like a kitchen mat or plank under the unit to protect the surface of your good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Well there is nothing good quality in this apartment, no need to worry. on 11/7/03 12:58 PM, victoria_dragon at victoria_dragon wrote: > >> Are you sure that air ionizers ahd charcoal filters are the critical >> factors? As far as I know, ionizers will help clump particles > together, but >> the weak charge isn't meant to kill anything. Charcoal filters will > get rid >> of odours, but they aren't meant to filter out tiny particles. > > The charcoal filters aren't meant to filter out particles but are > needed to protect people and pets from possible harmful effects of > the ionization. Sorry but I don't remember the details as it's been > a long time since I studied it. The ionization won't kill anything, > it will clump particles, making sure that more particles are caught > in the filters. The bigger the particles, the more likely they will > be caught in the filters and the less that will be floating around to > be breathed in. > > One other word of advice for people who have never used an ionizer > air cleaner before: Clean the wall behind the unit and the surface > under it regularly as they will get nasty sticky. If your furniture > (or rugs) are good quality, you might even want to put something > solid like a kitchen mat or plank under the unit to protect the > surface of your good stuff. > > > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Hi all, I want to know the effect of infrared on human body. like infrared waves in arthrits pain or for treatment of paralysis. regards, tanveer victoria_dragon <victoria_dragon wrote: Chinese Traditional Medicine , Linda <mabelltoo@a...> wrote: > Anyone have any real information on how these two types of mold could > effect my family. Both are brewing in this apartment, due to lack of proper > air flow through. and really bad venting of dryer, and leaks in windows. > > Alternaria > > Hormodendrum > > ????????? > > My daughter is having alot of seizures after being very allergic here. Here is a good link to info on alternaria: http://www.mold.ph/alternaria_mold_picture.htm Read down and to health problems. Yes, alternaria is a significant cause of fungus allergy. The site may also have info on hormodendrum. The thing to keep in mind about molds - in addition to the Western medical info - is that if you have mold, you also have Exterior Dampness problems. Some of the symptoms of Exterior Dampness can include arthritic and rheumatic pains, fatigue, slugginess, watery skin rashes, no thirst, low fever, and sweating (which can lead to Qi Deficiency). The tongue coating will be thick and white, and the pulse slippery and floating. Exterior Pernicious Evils - including Dampness - can invade to the Interior. This is when one starts having problems like heavy, labored breathing. The fatigue and sluggishness become even worse than they were. There often is lack of appetite in addition to lack of thirst. The thinking becomes confused. The urine is cloudy, and there amy be problems with diarrhea, nausea, and vaginal discharge. There may be an oppressive feeling in the chest. There can be swelling in the Interior as well as the Exterior of the body. The tongue coating may become so thick and greasy that the tongue tissue is not visible. The pulse is slippery. (It's no longer floating because the problem has moved from the Exterior (head, shoulders, arms, legs, neck, muscles, bones, and meridians) to the Interior (Organs, trunk) of the body. A " floating " pulse is one which is felt most with the slightest pressure on the wrist. A deep pulse is one which is felt strongest with the most pressure on the wrist.) The Organ which is most vulnerable to Dampness is the Spleen. Spleen Deficiency is the most common TCM imbalance seen in cases of allergies and allergy-like symptoms. The person suffering from Interior Dampness is getting hit with a one-two punch. At the same time the Dampness is weakening the Spleen, the increased perspiration is draining off Qi. The Spleen and the Lungs are the two most important Organs in supplying Qi to the body. If the Spleen is weakened, Qi doesn't get gathered and transported like it should. The sweating further adds to the Qi Deficiency. Treatment principles include removing the Dampness and fortifying the Spleen. If there is a significant mold problem, there may be more going on than just leaky windows and vents. There may be water damage inside the walls from a leaky roof and/or from leaks in pipes. Air ionizers can help in the fight against molds (and pollens). Make sure you get one with a charcoal filter. By ionizing the air, the unit will remove even more molds and pollens than if an air filter alone was used. Victoria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2004 Report Share Posted March 18, 2004 In a message dated 3/18/2004 4:34:59 PM US Mountain Standard Time, deuteronomy2929 writes: What is your home like? Ventilation, mold, types of heating, stuff like that. I have the same problems, and attribute it directly to the mold and mildew problem in our home. John Tea tree oil kills mold and mildew. I make it up in a spray bottle like 2 tablespoons to 1 pint water and even spray it on my A/C filter and such. God Bless, Jamie in AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Duke, Would appreciate your sharing type of cleaning solutions you used and its brand name if possible. Am in Austin, and one closet containing leather shoes and bag started to get moldy. I cleaned everything with water and hydrogen peroxide and baking soda and dried them out in the terrace of our apartment. However, was told that since Texas has high humidity, one needs to get a dehumidifier to preven mold from returning. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Melly We use orange oil for surface cleaningn from TKO and get it where ever it costs the least. Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas info --- On Thu, 11/6/08, melly banagale <tita_mel wrote: melly banagale <tita_mel Re: Moldsoleander soup Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 10:07 AM Duke, Would appreciate your sharing type of cleaning solutions you used and its brand name if possible. Am in Austin, and one closet containing leather shoes and bag started to get moldy. I cleaned everything with water and hydrogen peroxide and baking soda and dried them out in the terrace of our apartment. However, was told that since Texas has high humidity, one needs to get a dehumidifier to preven mold from returning. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 An old method for dealing with molds in clothing was to put a small cupful of dettol in the wash - possibly vinegar would work also. Jonathan Jonathan Chamberlain www.fightingcancer.com--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote: Duke Stone <dukesdealsRe: Re: Moldsoleander soup Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 5:17 PM Melly We use orange oil for surface cleaningn from TKO and get it where ever it costs the least. Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas info (AT) DukeStone (DOT) Biz --- On Thu, 11/6/08, melly banagale <tita_mel > wrote: melly banagale <tita_mel > Re: Moldsoleander soupThursday, November 6, 2008, 10:07 AM Duke, Would appreciate your sharing type of cleaning solutions you used and its brand name if possible. Am in Austin, and one closet containing leather shoes and bag started to get moldy. I cleaned everything with water and hydrogen peroxide and baking soda and dried them out in the terrace of our apartment. However, was told that since Texas has high humidity, one needs to get a dehumidifier to preven mold from returning. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Jonathan: Great information. This has been in the back of my mind for a long time. Do you have any ideas or links that might help me put a plan together. I feel that cotton clothing harboring fungus, most peoples low iodine levels and a moist enviornment at the covered skin surface is a creats a great breeding ground for fungus. Cotton fungus is a big deal; ask any farmer. Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas info --- On Fri, 11/7/08, jonathan chamberlain <jonomark33 wrote: jonathan chamberlain <jonomark33Re: Re: Moldsoleander soup Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:24 AM An old method for dealing with molds in clothing was to put a small cupful of dettol in the wash - possibly vinegar would work also. Jonathan Jonathan Chamberlain www.fightingcancer. com--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Duke Stone <dukesdeals > wrote: Duke Stone <dukesdeals >Re: Re: Moldsoleander soupThursday, November 6, 2008, 5:17 PM Melly We use orange oil for surface cleaningn from TKO and get it where ever it costs the least. Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas info (AT) DukeStone (DOT) Biz --- On Thu, 11/6/08, melly banagale <tita_mel > wrote: melly banagale <tita_mel > Re: Moldsoleander soupThursday, November 6, 2008, 10:07 AM Duke, Would appreciate your sharing type of cleaning solutions you used and its brand name if possible. Am in Austin, and one closet containing leather shoes and bag started to get moldy. I cleaned everything with water and hydrogen peroxide and baking soda and dried them out in the terrace of our apartment. However, was told that since Texas has high humidity, one needs to get a dehumidifier to preven mold from returning. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Melly- We are in Southeastern NC and have similar mold problems, although we've been in drought now for 2 years and haven't had quite as much problem for that time. For your shower- try a spray bottle full of denatured alcohol instead of all that labor of drying it out. Alcohol evaporates much faster than water and mixes with water to make it evaporate faster. We keep a spray bottle marked for bleach only and it stays empty until needed. Most spray bottles have metal springs in the pump and bleach will ruin it if left in there. We load it, use it on any mold eruption for which it is applicable, then pour unused bleach back in its bottle and rinse out the sprayer. Tea Tree Oil will kill mold even better than bleach in my book. The cheap stuff at discount chains is plenty good for this. We mix up a little water, just a little detergent, and a few drops of TTO, shake it well, and spray anywhere that we think we can really kill the mold permanently. Yes, it smells high but that goes away. We have an area that grew a lot of mold several years ago and one treatment of TTO killed it for good so far. In addition to spray pump bottles, for really serious work we have a small handheld pressurized pump sprayer, it is actually a small garden sprayer. It is reserved for bleach, detergent and TTO. Our last secret for mold control is ceiling fans. Stirring air keeps mold way down, summer or winter. Daddybob Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1773 - Release 11/7/2008 9:08 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Thanks Daddybob. I will try your tea tree oil remedy. Would it be better if i put it in a steamer and steam the whole house? Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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