Herbal Remedies - degenerative, compressed disk? - aching neck

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I had some trteatment some years ago for my back which quite simply worked wonders. I had seen an osteopath which made things worse but then i was told about the Bowen technique. I don't know if you have it is the US. It originated in Australia but then went to Europe and it it is now very popular in the UK.It is very gentle infact it doesn't really feel as if they are doing anything but the results for me were brilliant

i just did a search and found a site www.bowendirectory.com which actually shows practitioners in the US. It also has a lot of info so it would be worth a look. After reading what some people on the list have gone through with chiropractors I would really recommend this as a safer alternative

 

Lynda

 

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Persian

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Monday, February 16, 2004 6:46 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - degenerative, compressed disk? - aching neck

Hi,On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 12:37:28 -0000, deerclan001 wrote:> Hi everyone - I have a friend who is 36, who's been having> a lot of neck pain. A physician did an MRI and told her> she had the spine of a 52 year old woman. The cusion between> some of her vertebrates is gone or nearly gone.> I'm not sure if this would be compressed or degenerative> disk or not. I don't have the official diagnosis.> Does anyone know of a way to treat the pain, get the body> to rebuild the cusion and know of any deficiencies that may> be causing this? Any other info would be of great help to.I

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Hi,

 

On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 12:37:28 -0000, deerclan001 wrote:

> Hi everyone - I have a friend who is 36, who's been having

> a lot of neck pain. A physician did an MRI and told her

> she had the spine of a 52 year old woman. The cusion between

> some of her vertebrates is gone or nearly gone.

> I'm not sure if this would be compressed or degenerative

> disk or not. I don't have the official diagnosis.

> Does anyone know of a way to treat the pain, get the body

> to rebuild the cusion and know of any deficiencies that may

> be causing this? Any other info would be of great help to.

 

I am interested in the difference in the spine of a 36 year old woman

and the spine of a 52 year old woman!!? As I am nearly the latter and have also

one

cushion near the base of my spine completely gone due to degeneration.

I was told it is the result of bad things we do to our back when younger,

carrying heavy bags of school books etc etc, its a huge list.

 

Anyway I don't think it is NORMAL for a 52 year old woman to have compressed

disks, or bad backs of any sort, I am certainly in the minority. Good grief

my MIL is 70 and gardens all day and does heaps and I can't even pot one

plant without being in agony.

 

regards

Persian

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Hi Persian,

 

This would be a good form of calcium pre, peri, post or way past menopause. LOL.

 

 

Don Q.

 

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Persian

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Monday, February 23, 2004 5:30 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - degenerative, compressed disk? - aching neck

HI,On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:16:06 -0000, L Stafford wrote:> I had some trteatment some years ago for my back which quite simply worked wonders. I had seen an osteopath which made things worse but then i was told about the Bowen technique. I don't know if you have it is the US. It originated in Australia but then went to Europe and it it is now very popular in the UK.It is very gentle infact it doesn't really feel as if they are doing anything but the results for me were brilliant> i just did a search and found a site www.bowendirectory.com which actually shows practitioners in the US. It also has a lot of info so it would be worth a look. After reading what some people on the list have gone through with chiropractors I would really recommend this as a safer alternative> Yes I have had Bowen. Firstly in about 1999, the lady said you have to have 3 treatments closetogether. It certainly makes you relaxed. It is supposed to retrain the body to realignitself, at least I think so. I am not sure if it is actually beneficial with wornaway disc cushions, or if it is better for pain and posture. I had more Bowenjust a year ago and it was a different practitioner and I did not feel muchbenefit from it at all. I do go to the chiro to get adjusted all the time, but that hasno effect on the overall daily pain nor the rebuilding of the cushion I don't think.I usually only go when I know I am 'out' somewhere, and it feels good the first dayafter the chiro visit, but I go back to normal soon :(I am taking the PP. Now I wonder if I should take something to get more calciumas I can't take lemon egg as we don't buy eggs. I just read something on this listand it involved a tea of oatstraw, stinging nettle, red clover and comfrey leaf.Can anyone recommend this or something similar for someone post menopausal?Thnaks for all the info on this,regardsPersianFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Persian.. have you had a bone density test lately? i was recently

shocked to learn that i definitely have osteoporosis fairly

advanced.. (-4.6)(well... not really shocked as nothing much shocks

me <g>)....my bones were good and strong 15 yrs ago when i busted my

knee cap but they have gone down hill sadly since. do be sure you

are getting enough calcium etc and perhaps Doc or Monitors can give

you more information.

love.. granny lee

 

herbal remedies , Persian <persian13@i...>

wrote:

> I am taking the PP. Now I wonder if I should take something to get

more calcium

> as I can't take lemon egg as we don't buy eggs. I just read

something on this list

> and it involved a tea of oatstraw, stinging nettle, red clover and

comfrey leaf.

> Can anyone recommend this or something similar for someone post

menopausal?

>

> Thnaks for all the info on this,

>

> regards

> Persian

[Guest guest]

HI,

 

On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 09:16:06 -0000, L Stafford wrote:

> I had some trteatment some years ago for my back which quite simply worked

wonders. I had seen an osteopath which made things worse but then i was told

about the Bowen technique. I don't know if you have it is the US. It originated

in Australia but then went to Europe and it it is now very popular in the UK.It

is very gentle infact it doesn't really feel as if they are doing anything but

the results for me were brilliant

> i just did a search and found a site www.bowendirectory.com which actually

shows practitioners in the US. It also has a lot of info so it would be worth a

look. After reading what some people on the list have gone through with

chiropractors I would really recommend this as a safer alternative

>

 

Yes I have had Bowen. Firstly in about 1999, the lady said you have to have 3

treatments close

together. It certainly makes you relaxed. It is supposed to retrain the body to

realign

itself, at least I think so. I am not sure if it is actually beneficial with

worn

away disc cushions, or if it is better for pain and posture. I had more Bowen

just a year ago and it was a different practitioner and I did not feel much

benefit from it at all. I do go to the chiro to get adjusted all the time, but

that has

no effect on the overall daily pain nor the rebuilding of the cushion I don't

think.

I usually only go when I know I am 'out' somewhere, and it feels good the first

day

after the chiro visit, but I go back to normal soon

 

I am taking the PP. Now I wonder if I should take something to get more calcium

as I can't take lemon egg as we don't buy eggs. I just read something on this

list

and it involved a tea of oatstraw, stinging nettle, red clover and comfrey leaf.

Can anyone recommend this or something similar for someone post menopausal?

 

Thnaks for all the info on this,

 

regards

Persian

[Guest guest]

Weight bearing exercise is really good for improving bone density Granny.

Maybe you could pick up some 3lb weights to start. I have been using bags of

rice and/or beans lol. And then Benjamin weights 51 lbs now, but that's

another story hehehe.

 

Janet

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" tvksi " <leo

<herbal remedies >

Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:55 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - degenerative, compressed disk? - aching neck

 

 

> Persian.. have you had a bone density test lately? i was recently

> shocked to learn that i definitely have osteoporosis fairly

> advanced.. (-4.6)(well... not really shocked as nothing much shocks

> me <g>)....my bones were good and strong 15 yrs ago when i busted my

> knee cap but they have gone down hill sadly since. do be sure you

> are getting enough calcium etc and perhaps Doc or Monitors can give

> you more information.

> love.. granny lee

>

> herbal remedies , Persian <persian13@i...>

> wrote:

> > I am taking the PP. Now I wonder if I should take something to get

> more calcium

> > as I can't take lemon egg as we don't buy eggs. I just read

> something on this list

> > and it involved a tea of oatstraw, stinging nettle, red clover and

> comfrey leaf.

> > Can anyone recommend this or something similar for someone post

> menopausal?

> >

> > Thnaks for all the info on this,

> >

> > regards

> > Persian

>

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

[Guest guest]

LOL! Granny I can't keep up with the tapes either. Put the two of us in a

room together exercising and we'd give each other blackeyes hehehe.

 

Yes Benjamin enjoys being the dumbell and he is WAY too weighty for me LOL.

 

*hugs* Janet

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" tvksi " <leo

<herbal remedies >

Monday, February 23, 2004 4:19 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - degenerative, compressed disk? - aching neck

 

 

> hi Janet! yep, weight bearing exercises are good... i have quite a

> bit of weight to throw around! my ankles says, " take it easy ole'

> gal! " <G> i have been doing the exercises with Denice Austin at 6 in

> the morning week days and i am feeling a lot better than before i

> started back to exercising. (before my ankles got so bad i walked an

> hour each morning and also worked in garden most of the rest of the

> day. ) i also taped Denice so can do them on week ends and also

> bought two tapes. i really work up a sweat for the last half of the

> hour of working out.

> now... let me say this.. am not always in sinque with her

> movements, and since my wrists and ankles are still pretty inflamed,

> i have been told that too much repetitive heavy exercise is not good

> during an inflamation, but the stretches are very helpful. i do do

> most all of the airobics with her and while she is off on a

> commercial break, but i do tire quickly and have to really push to

> keep moving the whole hour. my bosanove is somewhat lacking in

> grace.. i look like a very badly manipuated puppet. i can't do the

> warrior's stance very gracefully, and many of the others ones where

> i'm supposed to stand on just hands and toes... my wrists and elbows

> are too week, but i get on my elbows and do a much as i can. i also

> find that i can do a lot of them on the side of my bed and also

> standing next to a chair to catch myself. i can do the pushups on

> the chair standing up and that helps the arms and the whole back

> side!. i do the weight exercises with out the weights up til now as

> i got really bad using just the one lb weight in the past, so i sort

> of do isometrics to make up for that. sometimes i use two cans of

> tuna as weights... not much.. but more than nothing <G> i used to

> use big cucumbers but don't have any more. i used to do the swan

> stance for half an hour or so, but my balance is pathetic

> now.....but i'm going to get better....you betchum Red Rider!!!

>

> love.. granny lee ..oh..yes.. i used to use the rice or beans, too!

> i also had a 5 lb set dumbells, nearly tore my wrist up, so tried

> the 1 lbers and that finished me off as i thought i could do more

> with them and did too much under the circumstances of a bad flare

> . what about Benjamin? you trying to use him or a dumbeell???LOL!!

>

> herbal remedies , " Janet Seidlitz "

> <dragonhealing@c...> wrote:

> > Weight bearing exercise is really good for improving bone density

> Granny.

> > Maybe you could pick up some 3lb weights to start. I have been

> using bags of

> > rice and/or beans lol. And then Benjamin weights 51 lbs now, but

> that's

> > another story hehehe.

> >

> > Janet

> > -

>

>

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>