RE: Herbal Remedies - chiropractor

[Guest guest]

Marcela, I have gone to Chiropractors for many years off and on and my experience is that you need to continue going. My opinion is that as with other problems with the body, it didn't take you a short time to get your spine in a lowered condition, and now that you are getting it fixed, the headaches are from release of negative energy that was built up through the years. I would look at that as a good sign, the body is healing. The same happens to people doing cleanses and they may get a headache, stomachache or whatever, that is all just from detoxing the body and getting healthy. The way out is the way through, so to speak. Have you done any cleanses? Also, it is a good idea to drink plenty of pure water throughout the day along with a healthful diet.

Phyllis

 

 

 

In a message dated 2/11/04 12:09:04 PM Mountain Standard Time, marcelaweiland writes:

 

started going to a chiropractor last week since I have never gone

in my life before and my husband who has been treating himself wth

chiropractors for years says nothing but good things aobut them.

They found me on stage two of subluxation and recommended I go 3x a

week for two months and then he would see the progress and reccomend

the amount of treatments then. HOwever I find myself with headaches

all the time since I started going and I wanted to find out if this

was normal since I have never had my spine or neck manipulated

before, or is there something wrong? Should I wait until I get use

to it, or should I stop going altogehter?

I hope someone has had experience with chiropractors and knows a

little more than me.

[Guest guest]

You are probably releasing toxins from your body as a result from the treatment. drink lots of water to help rid yourself of said toxins and you should feel better in a few days.

 

 

marce0313 [marcelaweiland] Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:40 AMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - chiropractorI started going to a chiropractor last week since I have never gone in my life before and my husband who has been treating himself wth chiropractors for years says nothing but good things aobut them.They found me on stage two of subluxation and recommended I go 3x a week for two months and then he would see the progress and reccomend the amount of treatments then. HOwever I find myself with headaches all the time since I started going and I wanted to find out if this was normal since I have never had my spine or neck manipulated before, or is there something wrong? Should I wait until I get use to it, or should I stop going altogehter?I hope someone has had experience with chiropractors and knows a little more than me.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

[Guest guest]

Also, drinking lots of water helps to lubricate the muscles

Lauren Bastow <lbastow wrote:

 

You are probably releasing toxins from your body as a result from the treatment. drink lots of water to help rid yourself of said toxins and you should feel better in a few days.

 

 

marce0313 [marcelaweiland] Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:40 AMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - chiropractorI started going to a chiropractor last week since I have never gone in my life before and my husband who has been treating himself wth chiropractors for years says nothing but good things aobut them.They found me on stage two of subluxation and recommended I go 3x a week for two months and then he would see the progress and reccomend the amount of treatments then. HOwever I find myself with headaches all the time since I started going and I wanted to find out if this was normal since I have never had my spine or neck manipulated before, or is there something wrong? Should I wait until I get use

to it, or should I stop going altogehter?I hope someone has had experience with chiropractors and knows a little more than me.

 

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[Guest guest]

I dont usually like to contradict people, but i just have to disagree

with you on this one.

 

Her husband has been going to the same Chiro with great success.

Every person does not react the same to chiropractic treatment (just

like in herbal medicine)

I have been using chiropractors for over 20years and when I have had

an injury or trauma, they have recommended several consecutive

visits at first and then less frequently as i made progress.

I too have experienced headaches when I went for neck related

treatments, and as the stress and tension were released I began to

feel much better with each followup visit.

 

The recommendations to drink lots of water were on the money, and i

would also recommend trying to take it easy at least one hour

following each treatment, and longer if posssible. I found that if i

returned to work or sat in traffic follwoing a treatment, the stress

just about negated the treatment. I tired to make mine on a Friday

afternoon and then went straight home and rested for a bit. I know

this is not always possible, but do the best you can.

 

And lastly, talk to your husband and the Chiropractor about the

headaches, it may be that your treatments are actually on-track and

that is why you are getting the headaches. Of course a second

opinion is always good, but you have only been seeing him for a week.

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies , " Carrie Watson "

<carriewatson32@h...> wrote:

>I suggest you find a different Chiropractor. You should not be

having headaches of any sort. And, you should not ever have to go 3x

a week for any length of time. Make sure you have a chiropractor who

works with your muscles as well, because the muscles also need to be

trained to stay in the correct place, just like the bones. I have

found a wonderful chiropractor, and he is now our 'regular' doctor if

we ever do need to go in for anything. Two years ago, I was in a

roll-over accident which caused a broken collarbone, four broken

ribs, and a badly dislocated shoulder. Even though I didn't go see a

doctor for six months, he fixed all the problems in two visits. Just

make sure you find a good one!

 

Carrie Ann

[Guest guest]

I decided to watch for replies to

this post before I said anything. And I have to tell ya, I am so inspired

by all your beliefs and experiences with this great healing art.

 

I agreed with what was said about

having headaches INITIALLY, but I have to go along with Carrie Ann’s

response the most. A headache, maybe after the first adjustment, but

ongoing, I don’t think so unless that was part of the original list of

symptoms, which it wasn’t in this case. MAYBE, if you had a history

of a period of headaches, then the first week of care might bring them back if

they were related to the spinal imbalance but any longer is not good. Unless

the headaches are diet, etc. related then……

 

Also, going 3x/week for more then 2

weeks, is too much. Your spine should be stabilizing by the end of the

second week and number of treatments should be reduced UNLESS, you are doing

some kind of physical labor that is constantly interfering with your body’s

healing.

 

Another thing that would require

perhaps a month of 3x/week is if you’re grossly obese. But in a

month’s time you should have been able to drop upwards of 15+ lbs. if you’re

really wanting to get better.

 

One other thing that might require

the month of 3x/week is extreme mental stress, but again you should be handling

this and not depending totally on adjustments for recovery. And the Chiropractor

should be emphasizing these elements of your recovery and not leading you to

believe that the adjustments will take care of all of it. IT WON’T.

 

 

The adjustments if some of these

other problems are present will be about 20% of your total health care

picture. The other 80% is your responsibility through diet changes and

stress management which includes exercise appropriate to the injury!!

 

Please let us know how you’re

doing. And more questions are always welcome!

 

Anna, Chiropractor since 1976

(Palmer graduate in case your Chiropractor thinks otherwise ;-))

 

*Your Health Is In Your Hands*

 

 

 

Carrie Watson

[carriewatson32]

Thursday,

February 12, 2004 5:01 PM

To:

herbal remedies

RE: Herbal Remedies -

chiropractor

 

I suggest you find a different Chiropractor. You

should not be having headaches of any sort. And, you should not ever have

to go 3x a week for any length of time. Make sure you have a chiropractor

who works with your muscles as well, because the muscles also need to be

trained to stay in the correct place, just like the bones. I have found a

wonderful chiropractor, and he is now our 'regular' doctor if we ever do need

to go in for anything. Two years ago, I was in a roll-over accident which

caused a broken collarbone, four broken ribs, and a badly dislocated

shoulder. Even though I didn't go see a doctor for six months, he fixed

all the problems in two visits. Just make sure you find a good one!

 

Carrie

Ann

 

 

[Guest guest]

herbal remedies , " DrCrandall "

<drcrandall@e...> wrote:

>

>

> Ha, you're right, I'm so sorry....well, I can't say without

> knowing details.

>

>

>

> did you have a traumatic accident recently,

>

> No, I have not had any accidents.

>

> are you in a high stress period,

>

> yes,I am under a LOT of stress

>

> do you eat healthy,

>

> I try to eat as healthy as I can, I would say that I consider

myself a very healthy eater with exceptions here and there.

>

> are you overweight

>

> I am 5 " '3' and I weight 135 lbs, so I am slightly overweight, but

not obese

>

> do you have any acute/chronic dis-eases,

>

> no

>

> what prescribed and/or OTC drugs are you taking,

> I do not take any drugs at all

>

>

> do your daily activities involve heavy lifting (over 25

> lbs.) and/or extended periods of standing sitting IE over 8

> hours/day or 40 hours/week,

>

> no, I am a stay home mom, so other than picking up my children

once in a while

>

> how old are you,

> 33

>

>

> and have you had any other accidents in the past

>

> my last accident was 7 years ago, and it was nothing major

>

> or any surgeries?

>

> YES, I just had 3/4 of my liver removed due to a benign tumor

that was growing very fast and it was already the size of a

football, it was wraped around and overtaking the whole right lobe

of my liver

>

>

>

> <<<<<I read the post again like you suggested and even

> though you are

> giving me scenarios on why someone would go 3x a week, I am

> still

> confused on the frequency that you recommend. Is it good

> once a

> week, once every two weeks, once a month? What would you do

> if you

> were my doctor?

> Thanks again

> Marcela>>>

[Guest guest]

Hey Carrie Ann

 

Not quite. Different ppl have different results and different initial

reactions. Just because one person's initial reaction to a remedy

brings on a negative symptom doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad

remedy. For example, I'm sure The big 24-day Cleanse feels really

rough for a while, right? (Haven't yet done it, fixin to soon.) But

that discomfort is GOOD, it means the body is ridding itself of toxin

and that doesn't always feel pleasant. But it is necessary. It

doesn't mean we shouldn't do the cleanse. It means ride it out and

see what happens. Likewise, some ppls' spines are so messed up that

they may actually feel worse for a while. This's because the body

gets used to that screwed-up position. It should subside in a bit.

Sometimes the pain is a sign that the chiropractic adjustments are

working.

 

In love & light,

--Jen

 

herbal remedies , " Carrie Watson "

<carriewatson32@h...> wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

OK, so it appears we’re working with

some compromised health issues. The recent surgery. That’s pretty

serious. And explains the headaches, lots of toxins being eliminated. I really

don’t know how that would affect your ability to respond to adjustments

but I’m sure it is. The stress too is a consideration as is the extra 20

lbs. Adipose tissue holds toxins. I’m wondering how you had that

kind of surgery and got away from the MD’s without having to take any

drugs. Of course I know nothing about such a procedure or the outcome of

it.

 

Without the benefit of a physical exam, I would

probably recommend 3x/week for two weeks and then re-evaluate and expect

another 2 weeks of maybe 1 to 2 times a week. And if you start holding

the adjustments, your treatments would reduce accordingly and you would come in

maybe every 2 weeks for a month and then 1/month for awhile, maybe 3

months.

 

Keep in mind, I use the Activator Methods technic

which does not require torquing the spine before the adjustments so the spine

is not stressed as much and stabilizes much quicker. When I started using

this technic, the number of treatments needed was sometimes reduced by 50%.

And a lot of my patients who were coming in 1/month needed only to come in 3 or

4 times a year. The Activator is a hand held instrument and is used to

adjust the spine rather then using the hands directly. It takes the guess work

out of how hard to push on the spine. Your Chiropractor probably has one and

maybe uses it sporadically. I use it exclusively and that’s why I get

the quicker results.

 

And the recommendation all along would be

to do a cleanse. The juice cleanse if you need to try one on but the

total body cleanse is really what’s needed. What’s left of

your liver would love you forever as the liver is known to regenerate if

treated well J

 

Hope this helps!

 

Anna, beware of Chiropractors posting on newslists LOL

 

 

*Your Health Is In Your Hands*

 

 

 

marce0313

[marcelaweiland]

Friday,

February 13, 2004 8:07 PM

To:

herbal remedies

Re: Herbal Remedies -

chiropractor

 

herbal remedies ,

" DrCrandall "

<drcrandall@e...>

wrote:

>

>

> Ha,

you're right, I'm so sorry....well, I can't say without

> knowing

details.

>

>

>

> did you

have a traumatic accident recently,

>

>

No, I have not had any accidents.

>

 

 

[Guest guest]

I really thank you very much for taking the time to answer my

questions.

 

I had my surgery exactly 7 months ago and although I had some

headaches before the surgery they had completely gone away till now

that I started the chiropractor tratments, and also the headaches

now are a little different.

 

As far as my weight, I don't think that I am 20lbs overweight, maybe

on the charts, but i would look very sick at 115lbs, maybe 10 lbs

and that would be pushing it. I don't look fat if you look at me,

but I know I am a little overweight.

 

Of course I got 20 different prescriptions from the doctors, but I

have decided to take control of my health and do without the drugs

that will eventually harm my liver even more and only give me side

effects. As it turns out, my body has responded great without the

drugs and I feel better than I have in years.

 

I did a cleansing with just juices a few months back, but I have not

tried the one suggested here, I should probably do that.

 

I will give this treatment a little more time and see how I feel. I

do find that I feel better when I drink more water. This is my

second week, so maybe next week I will just go twice and then I will

talk to him to see if we can reduce the visits a little.

 

Again, I want to really thank you for all the great information you

have given me!

 

Marcela

 

 

herbal remedies , " DrCrandall "

<drcrandall@e...> wrote:

> OK, so it appears we're working with some compromised health

> issues. The recent surgery. That's pretty serious. And

> explains the headaches, lots of toxins being eliminated. I

> really don't know how that would affect your ability to

> respond to adjustments but I'm sure it is. The stress too is

> a consideration as is the extra 20 lbs. Adipose tissue

> holds toxins. I'm wondering how you had that kind of surgery

> and got away from the MD's without having to take any drugs.

> Of course I know nothing about such a procedure or the

> outcome of it.

>

>

>

> Without the benefit of a physical exam, I would probably

> recommend 3x/week for two weeks and then re-evaluate and

> expect another 2 weeks of maybe 1 to 2 times a week. And if

> you start holding the adjustments, your treatments would

> reduce accordingly and you would come in maybe every 2 weeks

> for a month and then 1/month for awhile, maybe 3 months.

>

>

>

> Keep in mind, I use the Activator Methods technic which does

> not require torquing the spine before the adjustments so the

> spine is not stressed as much and stabilizes much quicker.

> When I started using this technic, the number of treatments

> needed was sometimes reduced by 50%. And a lot of my

> patients who were coming in 1/month needed only to come in 3

> or 4 times a year. The Activator is a hand held instrument

> and is used to adjust the spine rather then using the hands

> directly. It takes the guess work out of how hard to push on

> the spine. Your Chiropractor probably has one and maybe uses

> it sporadically. I use it exclusively and that's why I get

> the quicker results.

>

>

>

> And the recommendation all along would be to do a cleanse.

> The juice cleanse if you need to try one on but the total

> body cleanse is really what's needed. What's left of your

> liver would love you forever as the liver is known to

> regenerate if treated well :-)

>

>

>

> Hope this helps!

>

> Anna, beware of Chiropractors posting on newslists LOL

>

>

>

> *Your Health Is In Your Hands*

>

>

>

>

> marce0313 [marcelaweiland@h...]

> Friday, February 13, 2004 8:07 PM

> herbal remedies

> Re: Herbal Remedies - chiropractor

>

>

>

> herbal remedies , " DrCrandall "

> <drcrandall@e...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Ha, you're right, I'm so sorry....well, I can't say

> without

> > knowing details.

> >

> >

> >

> > did you have a traumatic accident recently,

> >

> > No, I have not had any accidents.

> >