Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Wow! I must have missed that one but it is great! That should prove my point! Kelli Bever [kelli]Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:07 PMherbal remedies Subject: FW: Herbal Remedies - Protein Hi Angela, I'm forwarding again an email that Suzi sent out recently. It's got really good data in there on protein, and getting that from a vegetarian diet. Share it with your husband. Kelli ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OK I'm hoping you guys can settle an agrument between my husband and I. How much protein does the normal adult male & female actually need in a healthy diet. Not atkins stuff it's just that he thinks when I cook veggie he doesn't get enough. Thanks! Angela Suzanne [suziesgoats] Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:22 PMherbal remediesHerbal Remedies - Interesting from Diamond Organics....WHY Why would someone want to eat a raw and living foods diet? What do raw/living foodists eat and drink? Where do raw and living foodist get their protein? There are many reasons why people eat a raw and living foods diet. Health: Persons embracing this type of diet invariably experience improvements in their general physical and mental status, including more energy, better health, more energy , weight loss, detoxification, and a sturdier immune system that better resists and recovers from just about any kind of disease... and the list goes on... Energy efficiency: Since you no longer have to cook, you don't waste electricity. Since you eat organic agriculture, you help to save the planet. Most become more in-tune with their body; many report spiritual improvements. And no animal products are used, so the animals appreciate it. Raw and Living Foodists eat all fruits, vegetables, sprouts, nuts, seeds, grains, sea vegetables, and other organic/natural foods that have not been processed. In some instances, there are special ways to prepare the foods (soaking or sprouting nuts, seeds and grains). For beverages, water (purified water - never tap water), freshly made juices (made with your own juicer - and consumed immediately) and coconut milk (from a young coconut), are some of the liquids living and raw foodists drink. Most all drinks purchased at the store have been processed (Including: soda, bottled juices, coffee, alcohol, and most others) and are not included in a living / raw foodist diet. The World Health Organizatio) says humans need about 5% of their daily calories to come from protein to be healthy. The USDA puts this figure at 6.5%. On average, fruits have about 5% of their calories from protein. Vegetables have from 20-50% of their calories from protein. Sprouted seeds, beans, and grains contain from 10-25% of their calories from protein. So if you are eating any variety of living plant foods, you are getting more than adequate protein. Numerous scientific studies have shown the daily need for protein to be about 25-35 grams per day. So if you ate 2,000 calories per day, and ate raw plant foods that had an average of 10% of their calories from protein, you would get 200 calories worth of protein, or 50 grams. This is more than adequate to support optimal well-being. Other studies have shown that heat treating a protein (such as with cooking) makes about half of it unusable to the human body. So raw plant food protein is even a better sourc! e than cooked plant foods or animal foods. There is still a huge, foolish, misguided idea that plant protein is not "complete". This is based on studies done on rats in the 1940's. This false conclusion was drawn before we discovered the bodies protein recycling mechanism and its ability to "complete" any amino acid mix from our bodies amino acid pool, no matter what the amino acid composition of a meal consumed. This false idea is still perpetuated by the meat and dairy industries, in an attempt to influence people to continue consuming their truly health destroying products. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Well, raw veggies would be better as the cooked ones are losing everything.... Protein Requirements The body cannot store protein, so it needs a fresh supply every day. The Food and Nutrition Board of the National Academy of Sciences has established a daily Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for protein based on a person's age and weight. According toe the Academy, because most people in the United States eat meat and dairy products regularly, the average protein intake is higher than what most people need. So you should easily meet the following RDAs:The RDA for adults is 0.8 grams of protein for each kilogram (2.2 pounds) of body weight. This works out to 44 grams for a 120 pound person, 55 grams of protein for a weight of 150 pounds, and 66 grams for 180 pounds. These allowances assume that you eat a mixed diet of proteins - some high-quality (complete), some low-quality (incomplete).If, like most Americans, you consume mostly high-quality protein, your total requirement will there fore be slightly less. If you get almost all your protein from plant sources, it will be slightly greater. The variation due to the type of diet is no more than approximately 15 percent.Children under eighteen need some additional protein to allow for growth, and the younger they are, the more protein they need per pound of body weight.Pregnant women are allocated an additional 10 grams of protein per day by the RDA, lactating mothers an extra 12 to 15 grams during the first six months. Did you know?Beans provide nearly as much protein as meat, and are much lower in fat and calories. One cup of cooked beans contains 12 to 25 grams of protein, which is 25 to 50 percent of the RDA. Sources of Protein The foods below are all good sources of protein. The listed protein amounts are averages. Many foods that are relatively high in protein are also high in fat, so the chart indicates the percentage of fat accompanying each food. Try to limit your intake of protein sources that derive more than 30 percent of their calories from fat. Protein (Grams) FatCalories Dairy and eggs Cheddar cheese, 1 oz. 7 70% Cottage cheese (2%), ½ cup 16 17% Egg, 1 medium 6 68% Ice cream, hard, vanilla, ½ cup 2 48% Milk, skim, 1 cup 8 5% Mozzarella, part skim, 1 oz. 8 56% Ricotta, part skim, ½ cup 10 53% Yogurt, low-fat, plain, 1 cup 12 25% Meat and fish (4 oz.) Chicken, light meat, roasted, no skin 31 26% Ground beef, extra lean, broiled 33 56% Sirloin steak, choice cut, trimmed, broiled 35 37% Tuna, canned, in water 33 12% Turkey breast, roasted, no skin 24 6% Grains Oatmeal, 1 cup cooked 6 12% Rice, brown, 1 cup cooked 5 4% Spaghetti, 1 cup cooked 6 5% Whole wheat bread, 2 slices 6 13% Legumes and nuts Almonds, 1 oz. 6 82% Cashews, dry roasted, 1 oz. 4 71% Lentils, ½ cup cooked 8 4% Lima beans, ½ cup cooked 8 3% Peanut butter, 2 Tbsp. 10 76% Red kidney beans, ½ cup canned 8 4% Soybeans, ½ cup cooked 10 38% Tofu, 4 oz. 9 55% Angela Daffron <adaffron wrote: OK I'm hoping you guys can settle an agrument between my husband and I. How much protein does the normal adult male & female actually need in a healthy diet. Not atkins stuff it's just that he thinks when I cook veggie he doesn't get enough. Thanks! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 He's right. If you are cooking the vegetables then you are destroying the protein. Don't cook the vegetables. Very lightly steamed at most and preferrably raw. Don Q. - Angela Daffron herbal remedies Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:00 PM Herbal Remedies - Protein OK I'm hoping you guys can settle an agrument between my husband and I. How much protein does the normal adult male & female actually need in a healthy diet. Not atkins stuff it's just that he thinks when I cook veggie he doesn't get enough. Thanks! Angela ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.572 / Virus Database: 362 - Release 1/27/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 LOL.. I thought you had this one... sorry Angela.. I was going for something else for you besides that.. Suzi Angela Daffron <adaffron wrote: Wow! I must have missed that one but it is great! That should prove my point! Kelli Bever [kelli]Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:07 PMherbal remedies Subject: FW: Herbal Remedies - Protein Hi Angela, I'm forwarding again an email that Suzi sent out recently. It's got really good data in there on protein, and getting that from a vegetarian diet. Share it with your husband. Kelli ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OK I'm hoping you guys can settle an agrument between my husband and I. How much protein does the normal adult male & female actually need in a healthy diet. Not atkins stuff it's just that he thinks when I cook veggie he doesn't get enough. Thanks! Angela Suzanne [suziesgoats] Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:22 PMherbal remediesHerbal Remedies - Interesting from Diamond Organics....WHY Why would someone want to eat a raw and living foods diet? What do raw/living foodists eat and drink? Where do raw and living foodist get their protein? There are many reasons why people eat a raw and living foods diet. Health: Persons embracing this type of diet invariably experience improvements in their general physical and mental status, including more energy, better health, more energy , weight loss, detoxification, and a sturdier immune system that better resists and recovers from just about any kind of disease... and the list goes on... Energy efficiency: Since you no longer have to cook, you don't waste electricity. Since you eat organic agriculture, you help to save the planet. Most become more in-tune with their body; many report spiritual improvements. And no animal products are used, so the animals appreciate it. Raw and Living Foodists eat all fruits, vegetables, sprouts, nuts, seeds, grains, sea vegetables, and other organic/natural foods that have not been processed. In some instances, there are special ways to prepare the foods (soaking or sprouting nuts, seeds and grains). For beverages, water (purified water - never tap water), freshly made juices (made with your own juicer - and consumed immediately) and coconut milk (from a young coconut), are some of the liquids living and raw foodists drink. Most all drinks purchased at the store have been processed (Including: soda, bottled juices, coffee, alcohol, and most others) and are not included in a living / raw foodist diet. The World Health Organizatio) says humans need about 5% of their daily calories to come from protein to be healthy. The USDA puts this figure at 6.5%. On average, fruits have about 5% of their calories from protein. Vegetables have from 20-50% of their calories from protein. Sprouted seeds, beans, and grains contain from 10-25% of their calories from protein. So if you are eating any variety of living plant foods, you are getting more than adequate protein. Numerous scientific studies have shown the daily need for protein to be about 25-35 grams per day. So if you ate 2,000 calories per day, and ate raw plant foods that had an average of 10% of their calories from protein, you would get 200 calories worth of protein, or 50 grams. This is more than adequate to support optimal well-being. Other studies have shown that heat treating a protein (such as with cooking) makes about half of it unusable to the human body. So raw plant food protein is even a better sourc! e than cooked plant foods or animal foods. There is still a huge, foolish, misguided idea that plant protein is not "complete". This is based on studies done on rats in the 1940's. This false conclusion was drawn before we discovered the bodies protein recycling mechanism and its ability to "complete" any amino acid mix from our bodies amino acid pool, no matter what the amino acid composition of a meal consumed. This false idea is still perpetuated by the meat and dairy industries, in an attempt to influence people to continue consuming their truly health destroying products. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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