Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Suz, I am posting the report of this attack to HR. It will also be posted as a " Special Message " so that all 1,800+ of our members will find out about this. If Hanneke is willing (cc to her as well), she should get all the rest of the data, and post it to the list as it becomes available. Then all of us can make our comments, and / or " help " as we can, and as we see fit. I have another friend in CA who had a big website and was " hit " for carrying Comfrey. It is happening. The war is definitely ON!!!!!!! I also know for a fact, that the reason I have NOT been hit is because I do NOT have a large web presence, and am somewhat Fabian. Even though I am " out there " and communicate very dramatically on other lines including HR, my profile is still somewhat low. I also know that this will one day change, and I'll then have to " fight " . However, I like to pick my own battle grounds, and my own time. I don't fight a war like this to " lose " or with any intention of losing. For me, this is not an option. I'll never compromise with the truth!!! Never!!! I am CC'ing Herbal Healer's Webmaster so that he can propose to Mariah that she may come to HR for support if she wishes. As usual, there is to be " NO selling " of products per our list's policies, and I have deleted that part of the comm below. Her one mistake was to give in to the Attorney General's office the first time. That was the first throwing of the gauntlet, and she should have taken it up and become our figurehead and leader in this " war " . She still has a chance to do this with this new attack. If she thinks the attacks are over, or that this one (by the FDA) is the last one, she is mistaken. She is now a permanent target of the establishment, and they will not stop until she is completely destroyed. She has no option here but to fight back with all she's got. The goal here is not to get them to " lay off " and just leave us in peace. This would be nice, but we are dealing with completely mad people here and insane organizations with a crazy agenda. Their goal is our complete destruction. Our goal here must be to destroy the monopoly of the FDA/AMA, the Giant Pharmaceuticals, the Psychs, and the International Bankers behind them all. Some may accuse me of being " conspiracy theory " oriented here, but a spade is a spade. The evidence is overwhelming, and putting our heads in the sand will not make it go away (you just get your ass shot off this way ;o) Mariah is welcome to garner support here on HR for a " fight " if that is her intention, now that she is aware that compromise has gotten her nowhere. Like the rest of us, there will be no promotion of products or services. If she'll fight this to the end, I'll support her with money and /or fists, and with my connections (I have several political and very hot legal contacts). If she's not willing to walk that last mile, I'll tackle them myself - when I'm good and ready. Love, Doc PS. And believe me, I've been monitoring this " enemy " with great interest for years. PPS. Herbal Remedies site: http://health.herbal remedies/ Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. 505-772-5889 Dr.IanShillington - Suzanne Doc Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:53 AM Fwd: Fw: herbal healer website Doc, I know this isn't something we would post but I thought you might want to say something to the group about rights and outcomes etc... as we posted the suit to begin with.. Suzi Hanneke <blosshan wrote: " Hanneke " " Suzanne " Fw: herbal healer website Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:57:37 +1030 Suzie, Below an article which I picked up from one of my lists. See if it is applicable and is information members of the herbal remedies group would be served with. Hanneke Herbal Healer Urgent News HERBAL HEALER URGENT NEWS Certified Mail Jan 14, 2004 Marijah McCain Herbal Healer Academy From - Department of Health & Human Services Food and Drug Administration - FDA " We note your web site offers products for the following 'ailments " or " disorders " which cause the products to be drugs under section 201 (g)(1) of the Act: arthritis, cancer, Candida, lupus, fibromyalgia, cholesterol reduction, colds, bacterial/viral infections, depression, diabetes. hepatitis C, parasitic infections, and systemic yeast among others. Furthermore, the FDA has no information that your product is generally safe and effective for the above referenced conditions and therefore, the products many also be a " new drug " under section 201(p) of the Act [21USC 321(p)}. New drugs may not be legally marketed in the U.S. without prior approval from the FDA as described in section 505(a) of the Act [21 USC 355(a)}. FDA approves a new drug on the basis of scientific data submitted by a drug sponsor to demonstrate that the drug is safe and effective. " " This is to advise you that the Food and Drug Administration has reviewed your web site and have determined the products HHA Chromium Picolinate, HHA Colloidal Minerals, HHA CMO, HHA Liver Support, HHA MSM Sulphur and Olive Leaf Extract are promoted for conditions that cause the products to be drugs under section 201(g)(1) of the FDA Cosmetic Act (the Act) [21 USC 321(g)(1)}. The therapeutic claims on your web site establish that these products are drugs because they are intended for use in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease. The continued marketing of these products with these claims violates the Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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