Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Marcela...... I suggest that you order Doc's tape as a start.......Mary O - " marce0313 " <marcelaweiland <herbal remedies > Tuesday, January 20, 2004 5:43 AM Herbal Remedies - question > Hello, > I have a question about something I cannot understand. > I am married with three children and I consider ourselves very aware > of our health and what we eat. We buy organic as much as we can, I > will not tell you ALL we eat is organic, but I am very aware of it > and I do it in MANY of our foods as much as it is offered here. I > also make sure we eat fruits and vegetables everyday and make juices > almost on a daily basis for everyone in the family. We rarely take > any medications, I always use natural herbs or remedies for most of > our colds, flu's, or other things that we might get, but still I > find ourselves sick as much as the regular population or even more. > I had a tumor the size of a football removed out of my liver > together with the entire right lobe of my liver and gallbladder, my > husband now suffers from IBS with some chronic symptoms and my kids > are getting colds on a regular basis, one after the other. > Now, I have a family that we have known for about years now, that > not only the wife is about 70 to 80 lbs overweight, but also I don't > think they buy vegetables at ALL, even less organic foods. All they > eat is fast food and their house if full of potato chips, Doritos, > ice cream, cookies and that is mostly what they feed their two > children. If the children get a headache she is giving them > antibiotics and al sorts of over the counter medications They had a > baby and because they thought formula was too expensive they started > feeding her regular store bought milk when she was 8 months old, now > that baby has NOT YET been sick the first time, she is now 1 year > and a half. Their 9 year old daughter rarely gets sick and she eats > chicken nuggets and chips for lunch on a regular basis, same with > the parents; yes they are overweight, but they rarely get a cavity, > but I have already had major surgery to remove a tumor that was > already compromising my right lung since it was pushing on my > diaphragm and was not allowing me to take deep breaths and my > husband has been very sick with this IBS. > I basically want to know if someone would have any idea of how this > could be or what is it that I am doing wrong or where I can improve.Marcela > > Thank you so much. > Marcela > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 I eat organic about 90% of the time. Total Nutrition is so vial, it's hard to get down. I think my diet is balanced. I'm not a super human herb guru. Suzanne [suziesgoats] Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:24 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - question Are you all supplementing with say like total nutrition???? Eating organic and eating healthy, or balanced diets??? SuziLauren Bastow <lbastow wrote: I would also be interested in this. I also try to do the whole healthy thing and I cannot lose weight to save my life and my kids and myself are sick more than most people. I also have a sister who is really devoted to the whole healthy thing and she gets sick way more than the rest of us. I have a brother actually, 2 of them that don't care one lick about healthy things and they are almost never sick. So what's the story here? marce0313 [marcelaweiland] Tuesday, January 20, 2004 5:43 AMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - questionHello,I have a question about something I cannot understand. I am married with three children and I consider ourselves very aware of our health and what we eat. We buy organic as much as we can, I will not tell you ALL we eat is organic, but I am very aware of it and I do it in MANY of our foods as much as it is offered here. I also make sure we eat fruits and vegetables everyday and make juices almost on a daily basis for everyone in the family. We rarely take any medications, I always use natural herbs or remedies for most of our colds, flu's, or other things that we might get, but still I find ourselves sick as much as the regular population or even more. I had a tumor the size of a football removed out of my liver together with the entire right lobe of my liver and gallbladder, my husband now suffers from IBS with some chronic symptoms and my kids are getting colds on a regular basis, one after the other. Now, I have a family that we have known for about years now, that not only the wife is about 70 to 80 lbs overweight, but also I don't think they buy vegetables at ALL, even less organic foods. All they eat is fast food and their house if full of potato chips, Doritos, ice cream, cookies and that is mostly what they feed their two children. If the children get a headache she is giving them antibiotics and al sorts of over the counter medications They had a baby and because they thought formula was too expensive they started feeding her regular store bought milk when she was 8 months old, now that baby has NOT YET been sick the first time, she is now 1 year and a half. Their 9 year old daughter rarely gets sick and she eats chicken nuggets and chips for lunch on a regular basis, same with the parents; yes they are overweight, but they rarely get a cavity, but I have already had major surgery to remove a tumor that was already compromising my right lung since it was pushing on my diaphragm and was not allowing me to take deep breaths and my husband has been very sick with this IBS.I basically want to know if someone would have any idea of how this could be or what is it that I am doing wrong or where I can improve.Thank you so much.MarcelaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Okay Marcela, Number one: you are you and you are not anyone else. Everybody is different. You cannot compare yourself with anyone else. In doing so you will only invalidate yourself or your family. Number two: see number one. Let's look at this from a different perspective. Okay, you are eating a lot of fresh organic fruits and vegetables. Now, how well do they stack up in the vitamin and mineral content of fruits and vegetables grown over a hundred years ago. I can probably just about guarantee you that there is very little of either in them. Fruits and vegetables grown today are grown on land that is barren of minerals because of overfarming. If you have the ability to grow your own then you can control that by adding amendments to your soil such as rock dust, pot ash, compost, etc. Then, are you cooking your foods? If you are then you are making them even more devoid of anything healthy. If your not than that is very good. Are you eating grains, nuts and seeds that have not been soaked 8 to 12 hours to deactivate the enzyme inhibitors? Are you cooking your grains? Cooking kills everything healthy and good for you that exists in your food. There are many factors that need to be looked at and weighed before you go comparing your health to that of the neighbors. They will reap their rewards, that's for sure. Where do you live? What is the quality of your air? Is there mold in your home? What about the water you drink? Have you tested your home for radon gas? What was your lifestyle and diets like before you became health conscious? What about your past medical history? Vaccinations? Have you done any cleanses? Do you get enough sun? Do you get enough exercise? I guarantee you that your neighbors are having lots of health problems that you are unaware of and they may be unaware of too. Don't worry about your neighbors or friends and their health. You need to concentrate on your health. They are happily creating their own health and you are worrying about yours. Why? Start looking for reasons and answers within yourselves as to why your health isn't improving much. I have listed several things for you to consider and will be more than happy to list more if you wish. I am sure that Doc can list even more as well or any of the other mods. The road to true health begins with "I" not "They" as in " I amI will" not "They are". I don't mean to sound harsh, honestly I don't but it seems to me you have enough to worry about concerning your own family without worrying about why your friends family isn't as ill as you are. HTH, Don Q. - marce0313 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:43 PM Herbal Remedies - question Hello,I have a question about something I cannot understand. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release 1/13/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Don, You are absolutely right, I should not be worrying about anyone else but ourselves, but I think that is my whole problem, that I worry TOO much to make sure everything is healthy for my children and family, maybe if I took things one day at a time, things would be better. I have always been pretty aware of my health, my mom is and my grandmother is. We were raised on herb and very healthy lifestyles. Then we moved to the United States and unfortunately things changed a little bit for a few years, but I am trying to go back to what I used to be. I am still young, I am 33, so I don't think I have dione too much harm yet. We drink bottle water ALL the time, we have air purifyers in my home, we live in Miami, Florida. We eat raw fruits and vegetables everyday and like I mentioned before I try to buy most of my foods organic, I do cook some of my foods, but not all of them. We eat almonds, flaxseeds on a very regular basis. I am not going to tell you that I eat like Doc does, because I have a long way before getting there, but I have made A LOT of changes for the better in my life and it seems like it's backfiring on us. I don't mean to compare ourselves again, but there are people that totally don't care about anything organic, fruits, vegetables, water, air, grains, herbs, NOTHING and they are perfectly fine! Maybe it is that I worry too much to make things perfect and maybe that stress is affecting us, GOD know, all I wanted was someone to maybe see something I am not seeing, and Don you are right, I should not be comparing my life to anyone else's, and I really was not, it was just a point of reference, but thank you so much for your response! Marcela herbal remedies , " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist> wrote: > Okay Marcela, > > Number one: you are you and you are not anyone else. Everybody is different. > You cannot compare yourself with anyone else. In doing so you will only > invalidate yourself or your family. > > Number two: see number one. > > Let's look at this from a different perspective. Okay, you are eating a lot > of fresh organic fruits and vegetables. Now, how well do they stack up in > the vitamin and mineral content of fruits and vegetables grown over a > hundred years ago. I can probably just about guarantee you that there is > very little of either in them. Fruits and vegetables grown today are grown > on land that is barren of minerals because of overfarming. If you have the > ability to grow your own then you can control that by adding amendments to > your soil such as rock dust, pot ash, compost, etc. > > Then, are you cooking your foods? If you are then you are making them even > more devoid of anything healthy. If your not than that is very good. > > Are you eating grains, nuts and seeds that have not been soaked 8 to 12 > hours to deactivate the enzyme inhibitors? Are you cooking your grains? > Cooking kills everything healthy and good for you that exists in your food. > > There are many factors that need to be looked at and weighed before you go > comparing your health to that of the neighbors. They will reap their > rewards, that's for sure. > > Where do you live? What is the quality of your air? Is there mold in your > home? What about the water you drink? > Have you tested your home for radon gas? What was your lifestyle and diets > like before you became health conscious? What about your past medical > history? Vaccinations? Have you done any cleanses? Do you get enough sun? Do > you get enough exercise? > > I guarantee you that your neighbors are having lots of health problems that > you are unaware of and they may be unaware of too. Don't worry about your > neighbors or friends and their health. You need to concentrate on your > health. They are happily creating their own health and you are worrying > about yours. Why? Start looking for reasons and answers within yourselves as > to why your health isn't improving much. I have listed several things for > you to consider and will be more than happy to list more if you wish. I am > sure that Doc can list even more as well or any of the other mods. > > The road to true health begins with " I " not " They " as in " I am " " I will " > not " They are " . > > I don't mean to sound harsh, honestly I don't but it seems to me you have > enough to worry about concerning your own family without worrying about why > your friends family isn't as ill as you are. > > HTH, > > Don Q. > > > - > marce0313 > herbal remedies > Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:43 PM > Herbal Remedies - question > > > Hello, > I have a question about something I cannot understand. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here! > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release 1/13/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Hi Marcela, Is the bottled water you are drinking distilled or filtered or spring water? Are you soaking all your nuts, seeds and grains for 8 to 12 hours before eating? Are you taking any total tonic on a regular basis? Panther Piss on a regular basis? Lemon Egg on a regular basis? What about the Total Nutrition? Are you getting plenty of exercise? What do you mean by air purifiers? Are they ionizers or ozonators or what? Do you get plenty of sun on your bodies? This is very important for anyone's health. You want to rebuild your bodies you have to give your bodies what they need to rebuild with. ORGANIC VITAMINS, MINERALS, PURE WATER, EFA'S, FRESH CLEAN AIR, LOTS OF EXERCISE AND LOTS AND LOTS OF OXYGEN. These are the supplements that your body needs to rebuild itself. Yes, your liver will grow back. Amazing organs. Look to doing some cleansing as well. 3 Day juice fast to begin with. Bowel cleanse for all of you will help a lot. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, DO NOT WORRY! DO NOT CREATE ANY MORE STRESS THAN YOU NEED! AND TAKE IT DAY BY DAY AND KEEP TELLING YOURSELF OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW MUCH BETTER YOU ARE GETTING AND HOW MUCH BETTER YOU ARE LOOKING AND FEELING AND BELIEVE IT WITH ALL OF YOUR BEINGNESS. ONLY YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN HEALTH. ONLY YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN WEALTH. ONLY YOU CAN CREATE YOUR OWN REALITY. IT IS UP TO YOU HOW YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE YOUR LIFE. BEGIN NOW TO CHOOSE TO BE HEALTH, WEALTHY AND WISE IN ALL WAYS AND FIRMLY BELIEVE IT AND BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. HTH, Don Q. - marce0313 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:54 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - question Don,You are absolutely right, I should not be worrying about anyone else but ourselves, but I think that is my whole problem, that I worry TOO much to make sure everything is healthy for my children and family, maybe if I took things one day at a time, things would be better.I have always been pretty aware of my health, my mom is and my grandmother is. We were raised on herb and very healthy lifestyles. Then we moved to the United States and unfortunately things changed a little bit for a few years, but I am trying to go back to what I used to be. I am still young, I am 33, so I don't think I have dione too much harm yet.We drink bottle water ALL the time, we have air purifyers in my home, we live in Miami, Florida.We eat raw fruits and vegetables everyday and like I mentioned before I try to buy most of my foods organic, I do cook some of my foods, but not all of them.We eat almonds, flaxseeds on a very regular basis. I am not going to tell you that I eat like Doc does, because I have a long way before getting there, but I have made A LOT of changes for the better in my life and it seems like it's backfiring on us. I don't mean to compare ourselves again, but there are people that totally don't care about anything organic, fruits, vegetables, water, air, grains, herbs, NOTHING and they are perfectly fine!Maybe it is that I worry too much to make things perfect and maybe that stress is affecting us, GOD know, all I wanted was someone to maybe see something I am not seeing, and Don you are right, I should not be comparing my life to anyone else's, and I really was not, it was just a point of reference, but thank you so much for your response!Marcelaherbal remedies , "Don Quai" <mysticalherbalist> wrote:> Okay Marcela,> > Number one: you are you and you are not anyone else. Everybody is different.> You cannot compare yourself with anyone else. In doing so you will only> invalidate yourself or your family.> > Number two: see number one.> > Let's look at this from a different perspective. Okay, you are eating a lot> of fresh organic fruits and vegetables. Now, how well do they stack up in> the vitamin and mineral content of fruits and vegetables grown over a> hundred years ago. I can probably just about guarantee you that there is> very little of either in them. Fruits and vegetables grown today are grown> on land that is barren of minerals because of overfarming. If you have the> ability to grow your own then you can control that by adding amendments to> your soil such as rock dust, pot ash, compost, etc.> > Then, are you cooking your foods? If you are then you are making them even> more devoid of anything healthy. If your not than that is very good.> > Are you eating grains, nuts and seeds that have not been soaked 8 to 12> hours to deactivate the enzyme inhibitors? Are you cooking your grains?> Cooking kills everything healthy and good for you that exists in your food.> > There are many factors that need to be looked at and weighed before you go> comparing your health to that of the neighbors. They will reap their> rewards, that's for sure.> > Where do you live? What is the quality of your air? Is there mold in your> home? What about the water you drink?> Have you tested your home for radon gas? What was your lifestyle and diets> like before you became health conscious? What about your past medical> history? Vaccinations? Have you done any cleanses? Do you get enough sun? Do> you get enough exercise?> > I guarantee you that your neighbors are having lots of health problems that> you are unaware of and they may be unaware of too. Don't worry about your> neighbors or friends and their health. You need to concentrate on your> health. They are happily creating their own health and you are worrying> about yours. Why? Start looking for reasons and answers within yourselves as> to why your health isn't improving much. I have listed several things for> you to consider and will be more than happy to list more if you wish. I am> sure that Doc can list even more as well or any of the other mods.> > The road to true health begins with "I" not "They" as in " I amI will"> not "They are".> > I don't mean to sound harsh, honestly I don't but it seems to me you have> enough to worry about concerning your own family without worrying about why> your friends family isn't as ill as you are.> > HTH,> > Don Q.> > > -> marce0313> herbal remedies > Tuesday, January 20, 2004 2:43 PM> Herbal Remedies - question> > > Hello,> I have a question about something I cannot understand.> > > ---> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).> Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release 1/13/04Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Here's my theory: you and your kids and sister may be in an almost constant detox and the symptoms that look like colds/flu, etc. are really detox symptoms. Do a really serious detox and this should stop. The people around you who 'appear' to be healthy are sick sick sick and will probably develop something really serious like cancer or some chronic muscle disease overnight!! And they'll say: " how can this happen, I've always been so health?!? " That's how the body deals with toxins, they get stored up and then all he% & breaks lose!! The people I've known that have had cancer have usually been 'healthy' to this point. Unless a person is doing regular cleanses BEWARE, they are sick!! Anna *Your Health Is In Your Hands* <<<<< I would also be interested in this. I also try to do the whole healthy thing and I cannot lose weight to save my life and my kids and myself are sick more than most people. I also have a sister who is really devoted to the whole healthy thing and she gets sick way more than the rest of us. I have a brother actually, 2 of them that don't care one lick about healthy things and they are almost never sick. So what's the story here? >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 Dr. Anna, Your theory makes a lot of sense. I was thinking along the same lines, but you put it down in a proper perspective. Very well put. " The people I've known that have had cancer have usually been 'healthy' to this point. " Like Doc said recently. "people who have cancer usually don't get colds, etc. " At that point, the body's immune system is already quite shutdown. Two years ago, I was quite ill, had never done any cleanses, had a terrible diet, yet I no longer was getting colds or flus, my body would never sweat anymore, thought all this was strange. Well, did various cleanses, improved my diet, my body started sweating here and there again and would get the sniffles and aching muscles, etc. and I looked at that as a good sign that my immune system was getting stronger again because I also have much more energy, feel good about life again. I was getting some action. Now, the colds, etc. are less, but I do get detox symptoms here and there, yet realize this is all a part of cleanup. Cleanup can take a long time, my immune system was abused for years. As Doc says, that cleanup can be accomplished much quicker with a total body cleanse which I haven't done yet, intend to do it soon. Most helpful of all has been this list, I used to be scattered all over the map as to how to heal my body naturally. Here, we have basics that always work and are always in place , then we have all the input from Doc, you, the moderators and all the other helpful people here. Thanks and love to all of you. Phyllis In a message dated 1/20/04 10:08:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, drcrandall writes: Here's my theory: you and your kids and sister may be in an almost constant detox and the symptoms that look like colds/flu, etc. are really detox symptoms. Do a really serious detox and this should stop. The people around you who 'appear' to be healthy are sick sick sick and will probably develop something really serious like cancer or some chronic muscle disease overnight!! And they'll say: "how can this happen, I've always been so health?!?" That's how the body deals with toxins, they get stored up and then all he% & breaks lose!! The people I've known that have had cancer have usually been 'healthy' to this point. Unless a person is doing regular cleanses BEWARE, they are sick!! Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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