Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 , " Brian Carter " wrote: > Sending out press releases is the quickest way I've > found for myself to make some impact on the larger > world. >>> Brian et al: Were you aware of any action by national or state organizations? Jim Ramholz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2003 Report Share Posted May 27, 2003 Hi Brian, That's a nice bit of work. It's good of you to direct it to gov. reps. They seem especially sensitive to those who live in their districts, so send your releases to the reps where you live, too. Include releases to our beloved federal senators as well. Thanks, Emmanuel Segmen - Brian Carter Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:00 AM Ephedra I followed the Suffolk NY experience prettyclosely, but found out about Illinois just a coupledays ago. I forwarded a copy of my Februarypress release about Ephedra, which was sent outto many major media, and which got me to talkingto ESPN magazine and Glamour magazine, butthat's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 , " " @e...> wrote: > To All, > > Perhaps I'm behind the curve as I have been hibernating working on several > projects and not paying much attention to the news and current events > however, I just heard on the radio that the FDA has banned ephedra. The ban > to take effect in 60 days! I have a request in to crane herb for more info, but it appears the ban is total, with no exemption for us. and so it begins. However it will be blocked in court by metabolife for a little while, which will give us a window. I personally support an OTC ban, but if it comes down to complete ban or unregulated OTC, I'll have to side with the libertarians on this one. The buyer will just have to beware if the feds are too stupid to manage this correctly. I can't see jeopardizing the health of my patients because of some idiot athletes, teenagers or a hoochie mama who needs to lose five pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Word has it that Ephedra can be sold in the states, at the moment, as long as it is not for internal use. Unless, of course, you are buying from a TCM practitioner, of which there are many. So as long as your supplier is not selling for internal use you should be able to purchase it from them. Educate them if need be. Don Quai ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Hey Don How true The only thing is, tho, that ephedra as it appears in herbal teas and stuff is still legal. If I read the FDA (a-holes) web site they say something to the effect of herbal teas and stuff aren't affected by the ban...or could I be wrong? I *think* that what they're trying to ban are the isolated alkaloids being used by themselves in the stimulant formulae...but PLZ correct me if I'm misinformed Thank you ) --Jen herbal remedies , " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist> wrote: > Well I guess that means that Ephedra will be banned unless someone comes > along and removes the ephedrine alkaloids. Then it will be pretty much > useless. > > Nice cerebral emission. I have been passing that one around for quite some > time. Takes a bit of work to disentangle oneself from the likes of those who > are!!! > > Don Quai > - > supervixen08 > herbal remedies > Monday, January 05, 2004 10:12 PM > [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra > > > And I may be confused here, but I think that " ephedra ban " is sort of > a misnomer, because if I'm correct (as someone posted recently and I > also confirmed with a visit to FDA's website) that *ephedrine > alkaloids* are banned, but NOT ephedra as it appears in herbal teas > and traditional Chinese remedies, which are all, as of yet, > classified as food and regulated as such. I hope I'm right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 the only time I have ever used ephedra was for lung conditions such as asthma...and IN VERY SMALL doses Catherine M. Wood www.eaglespirithealingcenter.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Diet pills are made by companies that think that speed will help curb people's appetites. In my opinion, it only makes people eat faster ' Catherine M. Wood www.eaglespirithealingcenter.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 sorry it's my signature for everything else. i will do my best next time Catherine M. Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 As for TCM herbals preparations and herbal teas, this is true. Right now they will not be banned. However, do look for this in the near future. Right now they are only targeting supplements. Teas are considered a food but that can change with the stroke of a pen (or Russian Pencil) Hehehe TCM practitioners may get a lucky break cause after all China is being really nice with their trade with us giving us all that nice ephedra and what not to the pharmatels. Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt, who knows. Course the amount of Ephedra in an herbal tea bag is well, not a whole lot. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:11 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Hey Don How true The only thing is, tho, that ephedra as it appears in herbal teas and stuff is still legal. If I read the FDA (a-holes) web site they say something to the effect of herbal teas and stuff aren't affected by the ban...or could I be wrong? I *think* that what ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 How much ephedra is safe to take? and is it okay to stack ephedra with aspirin & caffeine? thanks, patie - Don Quai herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:59 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra As for TCM herbals preparations and herbal teas, this is true. Right now they will not be banned. However, do look for this in the near future. Right now they are only targeting supplements. Teas are considered a food but that can change with the stroke of a pen (or Russian Pencil) Hehehe TCM practitioners may get a lucky break cause after all China is being really nice with their trade with us giving us all that nice ephedra and what not to the pharmatels. Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt, who knows. Course the amount of Ephedra in an herbal tea bag is well, not a whole lot. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:11 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Hey Don How true The only thing is, tho, that ephedra as it appears in herbal teas and stuff is still legal. If I read the FDA (a-holes) web site they say something to the effect of herbal teas and stuff aren't affected by the ban...or could I be wrong? I *think* that what ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Why do you want to take ephedra with aspirin and caffeine? For that matter, why do you even want to take aspirin? I would recommend that you NUMBER 1: NEVER TAKE ASPIRIN NUMBER 2: DON'T TAKE EPHEDRA WITH ASPIRIN AND CAFFEINE NUMBER 3: DON'T TAKE EPHEDRA WITH CAFFEINE NUMBER 4: DON'T TAKE EPHEDRA WITH ASPIRIN NUMBER 5: DON'T TAKE ASPIRIN WITH CAFFEINE Aspirin is a toxic poison to the human body. It creates all kinds of digestive problems. It will literally eat away the lining of your stomach. If you are going to take ephedra then I strongly suggest that you research this herb thoroughly. It is not an herb to play around with. It is an incredible herb but can be quite dangerous if used in the wrong way, like mixing it with aspirin and caffeine. Sure you'll get a real kick out it but at what cost? Don Quai - Patie Asturi herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:13 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra How much ephedra is safe to take? and is it okay to stack ephedra with aspirin & caffeine? thanks, patie ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 WHY would you want to take aspirin and caffeine? and why stack ephedra with it??? That is NOT smart...... And what are you taking it for?Patie Asturi <patie wrote: How much ephedra is safe to take? and is it okay to stack ephedra with aspirin & caffeine? thanks, patie - Don Quai herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:59 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra As for TCM herbals preparations and herbal teas, this is true. Right now they will not be banned. However, do look for this in the near future. Right now they are only targeting supplements. Teas are considered a food but that can change with the stroke of a pen (or Russian Pencil) Hehehe TCM practitioners may get a lucky break cause after all China is being really nice with their trade with us giving us all that nice ephedra and what not to the pharmatels. Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt, who knows. Course the amount of Ephedra in an herbal tea bag is well, not a whole lot. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:11 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Hey Don How true The only thing is, tho, that ephedra as it appears in herbal teas and stuff is still legal. If I read the FDA (a-holes) web site they say something to the effect of herbal teas and stuff aren't affected by the ban...or could I be wrong? I *think* that what ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 i have noticed in alot of the diet pills in question that those three ingredients are common and was only curious. i am not taking it personally, but know alot of people trying to lose weight who are and was just wondering if they only took a safe amount of ephedra would they still get the same results or is it the stack effect that only works. thanks, Patie - Suzanne herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:24 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra WHY would you want to take aspirin and caffeine? and why stack ephedra with it??? That is NOT smart...... And what are you taking it for?Patie Asturi <patie wrote: How much ephedra is safe to take? and is it okay to stack ephedra with aspirin & caffeine? thanks, patie - Don Quai herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:59 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra As for TCM herbals preparations and herbal teas, this is true. Right now they will not be banned. However, do look for this in the near future. Right now they are only targeting supplements. Teas are considered a food but that can change with the stroke of a pen (or Russian Pencil) Hehehe TCM practitioners may get a lucky break cause after all China is being really nice with their trade with us giving us all that nice ephedra and what not to the pharmatels. Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt, who knows. Course the amount of Ephedra in an herbal tea bag is well, not a whole lot. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:11 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Hey Don How true The only thing is, tho, that ephedra as it appears in herbal teas and stuff is still legal. If I read the FDA (a-holes) web site they say something to the effect of herbal teas and stuff aren't affected by the ban...or could I be wrong? I *think* that what ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 I don't do diet pills... they are not a safe bet.... And now that I know there is caffeine and aspirin mixed in with ephedra.... sheesh... no wonder there are problems... That is a bad combo..... Tell your friends to stay away from that. SuziPatie Asturi <patie wrote: i have noticed in alot of the diet pills in question that those three ingredients are common and was only curious. i am not taking it personally, but know alot of people trying to lose weight who are and was just wondering if they only took a safe amount of ephedra would they still get the same results or is it the stack effect that only works. thanks, Patie - Suzanne herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:24 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra WHY would you want to take aspirin and caffeine? and why stack ephedra with it??? That is NOT smart...... And what are you taking it for?Patie Asturi <patie wrote: How much ephedra is safe to take? and is it okay to stack ephedra with aspirin & caffeine? thanks, patie - Don Quai herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:59 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra As for TCM herbals preparations and herbal teas, this is true. Right now they will not be banned. However, do look for this in the near future. Right now they are only targeting supplements. Teas are considered a food but that can change with the stroke of a pen (or Russian Pencil) Hehehe TCM practitioners may get a lucky break cause after all China is being really nice with their trade with us giving us all that nice ephedra and what not to the pharmatels. Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt, who knows. Course the amount of Ephedra in an herbal tea bag is well, not a whole lot. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:11 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Hey Don How true The only thing is, tho, that ephedra as it appears in herbal teas and stuff is still legal. If I read the FDA (a-holes) web site they say something to the effect of herbal teas and stuff aren't affected by the ban...or could I be wrong? I *think* that what ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 okay, thanks. - Suzanne herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:37 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra I don't do diet pills... they are not a safe bet.... And now that I know there is caffeine and aspirin mixed in with ephedra.... sheesh... no wonder there are problems... That is a bad combo..... Tell your friends to stay away from that. SuziPatie Asturi <patie wrote: i have noticed in alot of the diet pills in question that those three ingredients are common and was only curious. i am not taking it personally, but know alot of people trying to lose weight who are and was just wondering if they only took a safe amount of ephedra would they still get the same results or is it the stack effect that only works. thanks, Patie - Suzanne herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:24 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra WHY would you want to take aspirin and caffeine? and why stack ephedra with it??? That is NOT smart...... And what are you taking it for?Patie Asturi <patie wrote: How much ephedra is safe to take? and is it okay to stack ephedra with aspirin & caffeine? thanks, patie - Don Quai herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:59 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra As for TCM herbals preparations and herbal teas, this is true. Right now they will not be banned. However, do look for this in the near future. Right now they are only targeting supplements. Teas are considered a food but that can change with the stroke of a pen (or Russian Pencil) Hehehe TCM practitioners may get a lucky break cause after all China is being really nice with their trade with us giving us all that nice ephedra and what not to the pharmatels. Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt, who knows. Course the amount of Ephedra in an herbal tea bag is well, not a whole lot. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:11 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Hey Don How true The only thing is, tho, that ephedra as it appears in herbal teas and stuff is still legal. If I read the FDA (a-holes) web site they say something to the effect of herbal teas and stuff aren't affected by the ban...or could I be wrong? I *think* that what ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Catherine, Please remove you url after your signature... There is no advertising on this list. Thank you. HerbalSW wrote: Suzi Senior Moderator Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 The ephadra and caffeine combination is a death sentence. Sure, you'll lose wieght, and have all kinds of energy, just before your heart expodes. (IMHO) DONT EVEN GO THERE! windflowerDon Quai <mysticalherbalist wrote: Why do you want to take ephedra with aspirin and caffeine? For that matter, why do you even want to take aspirin? I would recommend that you NUMBER 1: NEVER TAKE ASPIRIN NUMBER 2: DON'T TAKE EPHEDRA WITH ASPIRIN AND CAFFEINE NUMBER 3: DON'T TAKE EPHEDRA WITH CAFFEINE NUMBER 4: DON'T TAKE EPHEDRA WITH ASPIRIN NUMBER 5: DON'T TAKE ASPIRIN WITH CAFFEINE Aspirin is a toxic poison to the human body. It creates all kinds of digestive problems. It will literally eat away the lining of your stomach. If you are going to take ephedra then I strongly suggest that you research this herb thoroughly. It is not an herb to play around with. It is an incredible herb but can be quite dangerous if used in the wrong way, like mixing it with aspirin and caffeine. Sure you'll get a real kick out it but at what cost? Don Quai - Patie Asturi herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:13 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra How much ephedra is safe to take? and is it okay to stack ephedra with aspirin & caffeine? thanks, patie ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 using ephedra for weight loss is abusing ephedra, and asking for trouble. This is the reason it was banned! windflowerPatie Asturi <patie wrote: i have noticed in alot of the diet pills in question that those three ingredients are common and was only curious. i am not taking it personally, but know alot of people trying to lose weight who are and was just wondering if they only took a safe amount of ephedra would they still get the same results or is it the stack effect that only works. thanks, Patie - Suzanne herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:24 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra WHY would you want to take aspirin and caffeine? and why stack ephedra with it??? That is NOT smart...... And what are you taking it for?Patie Asturi <patie wrote: How much ephedra is safe to take? and is it okay to stack ephedra with aspirin & caffeine? thanks, patie - Don Quai herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:59 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra As for TCM herbals preparations and herbal teas, this is true. Right now they will not be banned. However, do look for this in the near future. Right now they are only targeting supplements. Teas are considered a food but that can change with the stroke of a pen (or Russian Pencil) Hehehe TCM practitioners may get a lucky break cause after all China is being really nice with their trade with us giving us all that nice ephedra and what not to the pharmatels. Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt, who knows. Course the amount of Ephedra in an herbal tea bag is well, not a whole lot. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:11 PM [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Hey Don How true The only thing is, tho, that ephedra as it appears in herbal teas and stuff is still legal. If I read the FDA (a-holes) web site they say something to the effect of herbal teas and stuff aren't affected by the ban...or could I be wrong? I *think* that what ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Hi Patie, Ephedra is not and never was a diet aid. This is only a modern day action attributed to this herb. This is not a good way to try and lose weight. Why? Because it doesn't work. In order to lose weight one must exercise regularly and eat sensibly. If someone really wants to lose weight and keep it off they need to look to their diet not some magical bullet that does not exist. Ephedra by itself is thermogenesis. You don't need to add caffeine and certainly a poison to make it work better because it won't. All that will happen is you will quickly exhaust your adrenals (over caffeine stimulation), congest your liver and create problems with your digestive system (aspirin) and then be using ephedra on a daily basis, which is was never meant to be used for. Ephedra has many many uses but dieting is not one of them and never has been for the thousands of years that Ephedra has been around. Don Quai - Patie Asturi herbal remedies Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:34 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra i have noticed in alot of the diet pills in question that those three ingredients are common and was only curious. i am not taking it personally, but know alot of people trying to lose weight who are and was just wondering if they only took a safe amount of ephedra would they still get the same results or is it the stack effect that only works. thanks, Patie ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 When the words leave my mouth, so to speak, they no longer belong to me. They belong to the universe and anyone is welcome to them. It isn't like I was publishing those statements. LOL Yes, feel free to let them read it. Maybe those words will make a small change in someones thought patterns and eventually they might come to understand some truth or see some light or something. The main reason, from my opinion, that diet aids don't work is because we have polluted bodies. Too many toxins in there. Clean out your body, change your diet and you will no longer have a weight problem because your bowels will be clean and healthy, your kidneys will funciton properly and so will your liver. You will lose weight and keep it off as long as you stick to keeping yourself cleansed and eating healthy. Don Quai You can also let them know that diet aids never work. Sure someone might lose some weight cause they are so hyper they don't eat. What about the crash that ensues when you come off of them? What about the loss of energy cause your adrenals aren't working properly anymore because you over stimulated your body? Best way to lose weight is to change your diet to a raw food diet of fresh fruits and green leafy vegetables. Sprouted grains, nuts and seeds. Lots of healthy exercise, fresh air and sunshine. Body cleansings, fasting, juice cleansings all will help you lose weight and help you keep it off. - Patie Asturi herbal remedies Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:40 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Dear Don, thank you, I will tell my friends and let them read your email if that is okay with you. I have basically told them that diet pills are not the answer, but they have seen the weight loss and don't think it's true. maybe after they read your email they will at least think twice about it. have a pleasant day, Patie - Don Quai herbal remedies Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:31 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Ephedra Hi Patie, Ephedra is not and never was a diet aid. This is only a modern day action attributed to this herb. This is not a good way to try and lose weight. Why? Because it doesn't work. In order to lose weight one must exercise regularly and eat sensibly. If someone really wants to lose weight and keep it off they need to look to their diet not some magical bullet that does not exist. Ephedra by itself is thermogenesis. You don't need to add caffeine and certainly a poison to make it work better because it won't. All that will happen is you will quickly exhaust your adrenals (over caffeine stimulation), congest your liver and create problems with your digestive system (aspirin) and then be using ephedra on a daily basis, which is was never meant to be used for. Ephedra has many many uses but dieting is not one of them and never has been for the thousands of years that Ephedra has been around. Don Quai ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2004 Report Share Posted January 21, 2004 > Mercy Yule <mercyyule > Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:36:21 PM US/Pacific > > Re: Ephedra > > Thank you > Message sent again > Mercy > > Mr wrote: > > the message never showed up. try again and be aware > all attachments are blocked. its needs to be in text > in the body of the post. > > todd > > > --- Mercy Yule <mercyyule wrote: > > > Hi Todd > I posted the item that I sent to you regarding the > FDA process on > ephedra yet I don't see it appearing on the CHA. How > long is the delay? > Given that the topic is being discussed, it might be > useful. (It is > attached) The point is that the FDA has already > completed their review > and come up with the rule. The time for comments was > last year. > Correctly you observe that they cannot regulate > medical practice as that > is a state function. That is why the exemption is > for chinese medicine > and not for practitioners. I think we have potential > to be pleased with > the ruling but we will not really know until it is > published. It may be > quite specific about levels of ephedrine allowable > in our prepared > products. I would love to talk to you about this at > your convenience. I > will be at my office tomorrow after 10:00 AM PST > 425.641.6861, or you > could leave me a message at 206.498.5306 and let me > know when is a good > time to call you. > Best regards, > Mercy Yule ATTACHMENT part 2 application/msword > > > name=EphedraJanuary.doc > > > > > > SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting./ps/sb/ > > > > > > > Chinese Herbs FAX: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 > Mercy Yule <mercyyule > Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:13:02 PM US/Pacific > < > Re: Ephedra > > 16 January 2004 from Mercy Yule, L.Ac. > > At the time of this writing it is too soon for anyone to say for sure > how the new FDA rule on ephedra will impact the acupuncture community > because the rule has not been released yet. What we know from the FDA > website is the following: > “The rule does not pertain to traditional Chinese herbal remedies. It > generally doesn't apply to products like herbal teas that are > regulated as conventional foods.” > This is a good thing. The message is that the safety of using ma huang > in small doses, combined with other herbs in a formula, as recommended > by a practitioner trained in its use has been recognized by the Food > and Drug Administration. In the opinion of many advocates in our > field, this is very good news indeed for our profession. > The FDA entertains comments on an issue well before the ruling is > issued. The comments period for ephedra closed in April 2003. At that > time, many acupuncture organizations, herb associations, and some > individuals requested exemption from an ephedra ban for trained, > licensed practitioners, based on our long history of safe use, and it > looks as though we were heard. The FDA probably exempted the herbs and > not the practitioner because states regulate healthcare professions. > There is a sixty day congressional review period after the rule is > published, which will probably be within a week or two, but the rule > on ephedra is essentially complete, and acupuncturists will probably > like it the way it is. > You can still contact your legislator and tell them your views on this > and other issues. Find their email address, and tell them how > important it is that trained, licensed acupuncturists retain access to > herbs. Tell them about our record of safety and our important > contribution to healthcare. And let them know that you would > appreciate their support for S 1538 which would provide research > monies for herbs through the NIH. Or HR 1477, which provides eligible > patients access to acupuncture through Medicare and Federal Employee > Health Benefits programs. Let’s keep the good news coming. > To find your legislator: > http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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