Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Windflower, Could you re-check and let me know what this site address is again as I had tried it and it did not work Wendy (Australia) I found a chinese herbal site that sells ephedra, 8 oz for $6.50 www.planetaryherbaltreasures.com I am not associated with them, nor have I ever ordered from them. Just mentioned that they still have ma huang, aka ephedra windflower http://personals..au - Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Hi Wendy, Try this link: http://www.planetaryherbtreasures.com/ That should get ya in. Don Quai - Wendy . herbal remedies Monday, January 05, 2004 7:01 AM [herbal remedies] Ephedra Windflower,Could you re-check and let me know what this siteaddress is again as I had tried it and it did not workWendy(Australia) ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 I think you can also get ephedra from www.herbalhealer.com, though they have taken it off of their website, I think you could order it by phone or computer.. they have it in stock, but can't advertize it. (I'm on their free newsletter, and have ordered from them with no problem. ) Scott. herbal remedies , " Wendy . " <rowherb> wrote: > Windflower, > Could you re-check and let me know what this site > address is again as I had tried it and it did not work > Wendy > (Australia) > > I found a chinese herbal site that sells ephedra, 8 oz > for $6.50 > www.planetaryherbaltreasures.com > I am not associated with them, nor have I ever ordered > from them. Just > mentioned that they still have ma huang, aka ephedra > windflower > > http://personals..au - Personals > New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 I think you can also get ephedra from www.herbalhealer.com, though they have taken it off of their website, I think you could order it by phone or computer.. they have it in stock, but can't advertize it. (I'm on their free newsletter, and have ordered from them with no problem. ) Scott. herbal remedies , " Wendy . " <rowherb> wrote: > Windflower, > Could you re-check and let me know what this site > address is again as I had tried it and it did not work > Wendy > (Australia) > > I found a chinese herbal site that sells ephedra, 8 oz > for $6.50 > www.planetaryherbaltreasures.com > I am not associated with them, nor have I ever ordered > from them. Just > mentioned that they still have ma huang, aka ephedra > windflower > > http://personals..au - Personals > New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 sorry group...that should have been www.planetaryherbtreasures.com I found them doing a search on for bulk herb seeds. windflower"Wendy ." <rowherb wrote: Windflower,Could you re-check and let me know what this siteaddress is again as I had tried it and it did not workWendy(Australia)I found a chinese herbal site that sells ephedra, 8 ozfor $6.50www.planetaryherbaltreasures.com I am not associated with them, nor have I ever orderedfrom them. Just mentioned that they still have ma huang, aka ephedrawindflowerhttp://personals..au - PersonalsNew people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 I was able to get in with this address. I ordered a pound and a half of ephedra. That should do me for a good while and I ordered quite a bit of seeds from Richter's, so I think I should be set. Now I'm broke. What else is new. ) Lynn - Don Quai herbal remedies Monday, January 05, 2004 2:31 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Ephedra Hi Wendy, Try this link: http://www.planetaryherbtreasures.com/ That should get ya in. Don Quai - Wendy . herbal remedies Monday, January 05, 2004 7:01 AM [herbal remedies] Ephedra Windflower,Could you re-check and let me know what this siteaddress is again as I had tried it and it did not workWendy(Australia) ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Gee Doc, You must read the same books I do. They are not only major share-holders in Eli Lily and I. G. Farben but they also sit on the board of every major oil company and every other pharmaceutical company. They are also tied into the banking system, insurance scams, you name it. They is it. Don Quai - Dr. Ian Shillington herbal remedies Monday, January 05, 2004 6:58 PM [herbal remedies] Ephedra The following is from the New York Times. Isn't it the Rockefellers or one of their foundations who own the NY Times??? And aren't they major stock holders in Eli Lily and I.G. Farben??????? Hmmmmmmm, I could be wrong there. Interesting how these things tie in together. I think it's pretty easy to see where this is going. Doc The Ephedra Ban Is Not Enough ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Hey Lynn, Don't feel like your alone here. LOL We is all broke!!!! But hey, as long as your happy it doesn't matter one whit. Don Quai - pearlmoon herbal remedies Monday, January 05, 2004 4:58 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Ephedra I was able to get in with this address. I ordered a pound and a half of ephedra. That should do me for a good while and I ordered quite a bit of seeds from Richter's, so I think I should be set. Now I'm broke. What else is new. ) Lynn ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release 1/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Aaaaaa!........Screaming with frustration and pulling out my hair! Carrie Ann "No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist." -Oscar Wilde mv*lw! >"Dr. Ian Shillington" >herbal remedies >"herbal remedies" >[herbal remedies] Ephedra >Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:58:39 -0700 > >The following is from the New York Times. Isn't it the Rockefellers or one of their foundations who own the NY Times??? And aren't they major stock holders in Eli Lily and I.G. Farben??????? Hmmmmmmm, I could be wrong there. Interesting how these things tie in together. I think it's pretty easy to see where this is going. >Doc >The Ephedra Ban Is Not Enough >http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/05/opinion/05MON2.html?th >Published: January 5, 2004 > > > ARTICLE TOOLS > > > E-Mail This Article > Printer-Friendly Format > Most E-Mailed Articles > > > > > > > > > READERS' OPINIONS > > > Forum: Join a Discussion on Today's Editorials > > > > > > > TIMES NEWS TRACKER > > > > Topics > Alerts > > Food and Drug Administration > > > > > Dietary Supplements and Herbal Remedies > > > > > > > > >t took an unconscionably long time, but the federal government has finally managed to ban an unsafe dietary supplement before it can harm or kill any more unwary users. The Bush administration's health regulators announced last week that they would soon ban ephedra, an herbal supplement used to promote weight loss and increase energy, on the grounds that it poses "an unreasonable risk of illness or injury." That was the only sensible response to mounting evidence that ephedra has been harming thousands of Americans. Yet the tortuous course of this regulatory crackdown underscores the dangerous weakness of a 1994 law that allows the supplement industry to market products whose safety and effectiveness have never been proved while making it extremely hard for health regulators to take them off the market if evidence of harm subsequently emerges. > >Ephedra is an adrenaline-like stimulant, derived from plants, that excites the central nervous system, speeds metabolism and increases the rate at which a person burns calories. But it can also drive up blood pressure and stress the circulatory system. Ephedra has generated far more reports of adverse effects than any other supplement and has been linked to cases of heart attack, stroke and sudden death. Ephedra has been banned by three states, including New York, and by some athletic leagues though not others. > >Some critics blame the Food and Drug Administration, which has been worried about ephedra for many years now, for moving too cautiously. There is some merit in that complaint, but the major culprit is clearly the 1994 dietary supplement law that requires the F.D.A. to prove that a supplement poses a significant or unreasonable risk of harm instead of requiring the manufacturer to prove that it is safe and effective, the standard used for prescription drugs. The law does not even require manufacturers to report adverse effects to the government. > >This is a formula for covering up problems and ensuring regulatory inaction. It is no accident that ephedra will be the first supplement ever banned for safety reasons under the 1994 law. That sluggish response was precisely what the supplement industry and its more zealous customers wanted when they pressed Congress for protection against strict regulation. > >When Congress returns for its next session, it needs to revise the ill-conceived 1994 legislation. At a minimum, Congress must require the industry to pass on any adverse health reports to the F.D.A. promptly. Even better, it should require the manufacturers to prove the safety and efficacy of their products before those products are allowed on the market. Under the current lax system, there is no guarantee that the substitutes for ephedra will be any safer. > >Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D. >505-772-5889 >Dr.IanShillington Enjoy a special introductory offer for dial-up Internet access — limited time only! Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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