Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 In a message dated 1/4/2004 8:28:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, aprilrainc1 writes: I didn't know Pau d'arco is good for viral . Good to know. Yeah its pretty good for a lot. I put it in my cold and flu immune tincture, ect Erin Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, Chico, and everything in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Hi everyone ! I am new to your group. Love to learn about herbs and there many uses. Wondering what are some of your best remdies for getting rid of a cold. I usually can fit of colds but couldn't this time. Been taking zicam , extra Vit C, echinacea, goldenseal, elderberry syurp, garlic, zinc. Any other ideas for getting rid of a cold ? Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 First question, the herbs you are taking, are they over the counter or the real thing? Is the garlic raw cloves or capsules? What does your diet consist of? Caffeine, dairy, sugar, soda, red meat etc... What is zicam? There is an article in the files called Cold and Flu season.... take a look at it... it will answer alot... (then you'll have more questions) aprilrainc1 <aprilrainc1 wrote: Hi everyone !I am new to your group. Love to learn about herbs and there many uses.Wondering what are some of your best remdies for getting rid of a cold. I usually can fit of colds but couldn't this time. Been taking zicam , extra Vit C, echinacea, goldenseal, elderberry syurp, garlic, zinc. Any other ideas for getting rid of a cold ?Thanks for your help.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 It could be viral based instead of bacterial. Have you ever tried Pau d'arco? herbal remedies , " aprilrainc1 " <aprilrainc1> wrote: > Hi everyone ! > I am new to your group. Love to learn about herbs and there many uses. > > Wondering what are some of your best remdies for getting rid of a > cold. I usually can fit of colds but couldn't this time. > Been taking zicam , extra Vit C, echinacea, goldenseal, elderberry > syurp, garlic, zinc. > > Any other ideas for getting rid of a cold ? > > Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Hi! Welcome to the group! Definitely look in the Files to the left and look under Doc Shillington's folder and a few others. There are some neat recipes in there, including Total Tonic and Total Nutrition and stuff. I'm fixin' to try them myself, and almost everyone here takes them. Those formulae cure practically anything. I've had a couple of colds lately and what I've done so far is this: at the first sign of a cold, I start pumping things like Echinacea Tea (I prefer Yogi brand's Immune Support tea) and I put astragulus tincture in there. I also take an echinacea tincture straight. Often, I'll take this with cayenne, as it's a wonderful catalyst and has many good properties of its own. You'll also want to do ginger, as it settles the stomach, is great for digestion and assimilation, and it has a bunch of different natural antibiotic compounds in it. I also take elderberry in the form of Sambucol. I do a whole lot of Vitamin C but I do this separately from the herbs. I have heard that Vit C is too powerful, and it and the echineacea will cancel out each other's effects. However, don't take that as gospel. I heard it from a good chiropractor years ago but I've also heard they're fine combined, so I'm not quite sure. I pump everything all day. To break up congestion: my secret weapon is Bayberry tincture. I take it in a tea or water. It's WONDERFUL for going in and breaking the gunk up so you can get it out. It WILL NOT dry you up or decongest you. That's a good thing, you don't want a decongestant anyway. The congestion is simply your body's way of trying to get rid of bad stuff and you don't want to hamper that. When your sinuses turn on the waterworks, it's like it's trying to flush a toilet. (Don't take that wrong, your body ain't a toilet, but you know what I mean. ) And that's not a process you want to stop! Instead, you want to HELP your body do its job. It'll do it on its own, and very well, if you let it. Bayberry does just that, it simply makes the phlegm more movable so you can go a head and expell it. Keep the kleenex handy! Another way to help your body rid itself of toxins (or whatever is bringing on the cold) is to take a hot bath. I take a hot bath in epsom salt (if that's not a good thing, anybody feel free to let me know!) (Of course, I shower off afterward to wash off whatever I just sweated out.) Diet: I go liquid, or at least soft. I do lots of oatmeals (soak your oats first, I'm told, and they're right!) and soups (always organic, no MSG, no sodium, etc) and I add fresh diced raw organic veggies like red pepper (high in Vitamin C), onion, garlic cloves (about a bulb's worth), and lots of salt- and MSG-free spices like rosemary, sage, thyme (all are GREAT for sore throats, congestion, etc), more garlic powder, and a hint of cayenne. My soup has quite a bite to it when I'm done adding stuff Oh--and add spirulina. It's an algae that you can get in flake form at your health food store. Make sure it says organic. By itself it tastes and smells like fish food but when you add it to food (I add it to my soup), it loses that taste and takes on whatever taste your food is. It has EXTREMELY high vitamin, mineral, and protein content and is easy to digest. You can assimilate those nutrients much more quickly. Keep the diet light, stick mostly with fluids. You can put spirulina flakes in water, juices, or other drinks, too. It will help you speed-heal. Hell, it's got more useable protein than meat, more calcium than milk, and more Beta carotene than a carrot! I drink TONS of water, in the form of teas, or with tinctures in them, and don't forget just plain water, too. Ideally it should be put through reverse osmosis or a distiller. Sleep--get plenty of. And then get some exercise, too. If you break a sweat, be sure to shower well. Other herbs to try: Eucalyptus, licorice (if you get laryngitis or a really sore throat), fennel (if you get a sore throat), ephedra (IF you can find it and you don't have high blood pressure. Use it in small amounts, usually in a tea blend, to open up the airways, and don't take it with any other stimulants. Pineapple juice (100% pure!) is a natural decongestant, but I'm sort of concerned about the (natural) sugars in it, does anyone have an opinion? Eliminate ALL: refined sugars, alcohol (except in tinctures), salt (as much as you can!), tough-to-digest foods like meat, dairy, and refined grains (especially like white rice and white bread--they're very gummy and mucus-forming). The object of the game here is to detoxify, ks that's what your body's trying to do and you're trying to help by keeping your system clean. Other things to try: get a chiropractic adjustment. I don't know where I heard this, but chiropractic care can enhance your immune system by about seven times. Have acupuncture done to open up your airways. This can help open and stimulate the lungs, nose, etc and really clear you up. Get sun, like maybe 30-60 mins, if you're in a decent climate. The sun has the ability to help heal. Breathe steam, especially eucalyptus or some other therapeutic essential oil. I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff, but that's what I can think of for now Hope that helps! Glad to have you on the board --Jen herbal remedies , " aprilrainc1 " <aprilrainc1> wrote: > Hi everyone ! > I am new to your group. Love to learn about herbs and there many uses. > > Wondering what are some of your best remdies for getting rid of a > cold. I usually can fit of colds but couldn't this time. > Been taking zicam , extra Vit C, echinacea, goldenseal, elderberry > syurp, garlic, zinc. > > Any other ideas for getting rid of a cold ? > > Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 - I am taking raw garlic, but am taking over the counter herbs. No, caffeine, or suar, don't care for red meat. Zicam is homeopathic cold remedy.(zincum glucconicum) You can get it at drug stores, even target. -- In herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats> wrote: > First question, the herbs you are taking, are they over the counter or the real thing? Is the garlic raw cloves or capsules? What does your diet consist of? Caffeine, dairy, sugar, soda, red meat etc... What is zicam? > There is an article in the files called Cold and Flu season.... take a look at it... it will answer alot... (then you'll have more questions) > > > aprilrainc1 <aprilrainc1> wrote: > Hi everyone ! > I am new to your group. Love to learn about herbs and there many uses. > > Wondering what are some of your best remdies for getting rid of a > cold. I usually can fit of colds but couldn't this time. > Been taking zicam , extra Vit C, echinacea, goldenseal, elderberry > syurp, garlic, zinc. > > Any other ideas for getting rid of a cold ? > > Thanks for your help. > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 I didn't know Pau d'arco is good for viral . Good to know. herbal remedies , " peacefulglow " <peacefulglow@h...> wrote: > It could be viral based instead of bacterial. Have you ever tried > Pau d'arco? > > herbal remedies , " aprilrainc1 " > <aprilrainc1> wrote: > > Hi everyone ! > > I am new to your group. Love to learn about herbs and there many > uses. > > > > Wondering what are some of your best remdies for getting rid of a > > cold. I usually can fit of colds but couldn't this time. > > Been taking zicam , extra Vit C, echinacea, goldenseal, elderberry > > syurp, garlic, zinc. > > > > Any other ideas for getting rid of a cold ? > > > > Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 On the raw garlic... you can take up to 12 cloves in a days time... I would take along with the garlic, echinacea plus and total tonic (both in the files under Dr.Ian Shillington), drink lots of water and organic juices. This combo should knock it. Suziaprilrainc1 <aprilrainc1 wrote: -I am taking raw garlic, but am taking over the counter herbs.No, caffeine, or suar, don't care for red meat.Zicam is homeopathic cold remedy.(zincum glucconicum)You can get it at drug stores, even target. Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 -Jen this is such great info. I sure appreciate your info. I have learned alot . Yep that's the tea I have been drinking Yogi. But I have never done the astragulus tincture. About how much would you put in ? Now the cayenne do use capsules ? I use fresh ginger and love Sambucol. Iam going out and getting Bayberry tincture tomorrow. Oh I just love this info !!!! Thanks for reminding me about the epsom salt baths. I have done this in the past also added hydrogen peroxide. I only buy can soup at a health food grocery store. No msg for this girl ! Thank you so much Jen you have been of geat help !!!! -- In herbal remedies , " supervixen08 " <supervixen08> wrote: > Hi! Welcome to the group! > > Definitely look in the Files to the left and look under Doc > Shillington's folder and a few others. There are some neat recipes in > there, including Total Tonic and Total Nutrition and stuff. I'm > fixin' to try them myself, and almost everyone here takes them. Those > formulae cure practically anything. > > I've had a couple of colds lately and what I've done so far is this: > at the first sign of a cold, I start pumping things like Echinacea > Tea (I prefer Yogi brand's Immune Support tea) and I put astragulus > tincture in there. I also take an echinacea tincture straight. Often, > I'll take this with cayenne, as it's a wonderful catalyst and has > many good properties of its own. You'll also want to do ginger, as it > settles the stomach, is great for digestion and assimilation, and it > has a bunch of different natural antibiotic compounds in it. I also > take elderberry in the form of Sambucol. I do a whole lot of Vitamin > C but I do this separately from the herbs. I have heard that Vit C is > too powerful, and it and the echineacea will cancel out each other's > effects. However, don't take that as gospel. I heard it from a good > chiropractor years ago but I've also heard they're fine combined, so > I'm not quite sure. I pump everything all day. > > To break up congestion: my secret weapon is Bayberry tincture. I take > it in a tea or water. It's WONDERFUL for going in and breaking the > gunk up so you can get it out. It WILL NOT dry you up or decongest > you. That's a good thing, you don't want a decongestant anyway. The > congestion is simply your body's way of trying to get rid of bad > stuff and you don't want to hamper that. When your sinuses turn on > the waterworks, it's like it's trying to flush a toilet. (Don't take > that wrong, your body ain't a toilet, but you know what I mean. ) > And that's not a process you want to stop! Instead, you want to HELP > your body do its job. It'll do it on its own, and very well, if you > let it. Bayberry does just that, it simply makes the phlegm more > movable so you can go a head and expell it. Keep the kleenex handy! > > Another way to help your body rid itself of toxins (or whatever is > bringing on the cold) is to take a hot bath. I take a hot bath in > epsom salt (if that's not a good thing, anybody feel free to let me > know!) (Of course, I shower off afterward to wash off whatever I > just sweated out.) > > Diet: I go liquid, or at least soft. I do lots of oatmeals (soak your > oats first, I'm told, and they're right!) and soups (always organic, > no MSG, no sodium, etc) and I add fresh diced raw organic veggies > like red pepper (high in Vitamin C), onion, garlic cloves (about a > bulb's worth), and lots of salt- and MSG-free spices like rosemary, > sage, thyme (all are GREAT for sore throats, congestion, etc), more > garlic powder, and a hint of cayenne. My soup has quite a bite to it > when I'm done adding stuff Oh--and add spirulina. It's an algae > that you can get in flake form at your health food store. Make sure > it says organic. By itself it tastes and smells like fish food but > when you add it to food (I add it to my soup), it loses that taste > and takes on whatever taste your food is. It has EXTREMELY high > vitamin, mineral, and protein content and is easy to digest. You can > assimilate those nutrients much more quickly. Keep the diet light, > stick mostly with fluids. You can put spirulina flakes in water, > juices, or other drinks, too. It will help you speed-heal. Hell, > it's got more useable protein than meat, more calcium than milk, and > more Beta carotene than a carrot! I drink TONS of water, in the form > of teas, or with tinctures in them, and don't forget just plain > water, too. Ideally it should be put through reverse osmosis or a > distiller. > > Sleep--get plenty of. And then get some exercise, too. If you break a > sweat, be sure to shower well. > > Other herbs to try: Eucalyptus, licorice (if you get laryngitis or a > really sore throat), fennel (if you get a sore throat), ephedra (IF > you can find it and you don't have high blood pressure. Use it in > small amounts, usually in a tea blend, to open up the airways, and > don't take it with any other stimulants. > > Pineapple juice (100% pure!) is a natural decongestant, but I'm sort > of concerned about the (natural) sugars in it, does anyone have an > opinion? > > Eliminate ALL: refined sugars, alcohol (except in tinctures), salt > (as much as you can!), tough-to-digest foods like meat, dairy, and > refined grains (especially like white rice and white bread--they're > very gummy and mucus-forming). The object of the game here is to > detoxify, ks that's what your body's trying to do and you're trying > to help by keeping your system clean. > > Other things to try: get a chiropractic adjustment. I don't know > where I heard this, but chiropractic care can enhance your immune > system by about seven times. Have acupuncture done to open up your > airways. This can help open and stimulate the lungs, nose, etc and > really clear you up. Get sun, like maybe 30-60 mins, if you're in a > decent climate. The sun has the ability to help heal. Breathe steam, > especially eucalyptus or some other therapeutic essential oil. I'm > sure I'm forgetting stuff, but that's what I can think of for now > > Hope that helps! > Glad to have you on the board > --Jen > > herbal remedies , " aprilrainc1 " > <aprilrainc1> wrote: > > Hi everyone ! > > I am new to your group. Love to learn about herbs and there many > uses. > > > > Wondering what are some of your best remdies for getting rid of a > > cold. I usually can fit of colds but couldn't this time. > > Been taking zicam , extra Vit C, echinacea, goldenseal, elderberry > > syurp, garlic, zinc. > > > > Any other ideas for getting rid of a cold ? > > > > Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Anytime ) Astralagus...the bottle's suggested dosage is the standard 30-45 drops or so. I never count...lol. I usually just stick in a dropperful or 2 (a dropperful is, I THINK, roughly 30 drops, but ya may wanna measure that out for yourself, as your dropper size may vary?) I pick up the readymade tincture from Whole Foods, and it's the Herb Pharm brand (so's my Bayberry, for that matter). Has a darker golden, almost orange kinda label. Another good tincture brand (if you're not yet up to making your tinctures at home) is Gaia Herbs. That's a white and forest green label. Fresh ginger is great! Good for you! I wish I could say I had some. I'll probably pick some up. For now my capsules are OK but in many cases, nothing beats fresh Hadn't heard of putting in hydrogen peroxide...how well does that work? How is it supposed to help? I use capsules for cayenne, yeah. I get mine from Nature's Way, they're standardized to contain a certain amount of capsicin per serving or per capsule or something. They're pretty hot. I don't taste them, they don't burn my mouth, but I do get a subtle little burning in my tummy from them. I've heard cayenne DOES help digestion, tho, and I've also heard it actually HELPS ulcers (anyone plz feel free to correct me if I'm not right). Occasionally I get a bit queasy from it but the ginger caps almost instantly do the trick. The bayberry effect is sort of subtle. You'll have to be paying attention to really feel it...but eventually, you'll suddenly realize that you're getting more out of each attempt to blow your nose You could take it in soup, too, if the taste bugs you. I've done that before. One small word of caution: you don't want to go totally hogwild on it. You don't wanna do the whole ounce as a shooter or anything Just steady in moderate amounts thruout the day is fine. I've read that some with gastrointestinal probs or colitis might want to use bayberry with caution, too. It didn't say ppl with those probs shouldn't use it at all, just with caution. But if you don't have a prob like this I wouldn't worry at all. Yeah, this board rocks, doesn't it? You'll find a whole SLEW of info here. And everybody's glad to help in any way we can. I think you'll like it here. Hehe hittin' the hay now. Get better! --Jen (gettin' better myself--my voice's back now!) herbal remedies , " aprilrainc1 " <aprilrainc1> wrote: > -Jen this is such great info. I sure appreciate your info. I have > learned alot . > Yep that's the tea I have been drinking Yogi. But I have never done > the astragulus tincture. About how much would you put in ? > > Now the cayenne do use capsules ? I use fresh ginger and love > Sambucol. > > Iam going out and getting Bayberry tincture tomorrow. Oh I just love > this info !!!! > > Thanks for reminding me about the epsom salt baths. I have done this > in the past also added hydrogen peroxide. > > I only buy can soup at a health food grocery store. No msg for this > girl ! > > Thank you so much Jen you have been of geat help !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 i have been trying to remember to drink several cups of the tea daily for a couple of weeks now and trying to remember to ask on this list for more information and oints of view. it is supposed to be really good to combat RA. it can be taken in place of water according to an article i read.. if you do a search, search for taheebolove.. granny lee - ErinJC23 herbal remedies Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:41 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: best remedy for getting rid of a cold In a message dated 1/4/2004 8:28:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, aprilrainc1 writes: I didn't know Pau d'arco is good for viral .Good to know.Yeah its pretty good for a lot. I put it in my cold and flu immune tincture, ectErin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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