Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Hey all Just reading through Doc's Files (again ) because I wanted to find out more about enzyme inhibitors. I found these files VERY helpful. But I do have a question, forgive me if it sounds stupid When I cook my (non-instant, 100% whole-grain rolled oats) oatmeal in the morning, does that remove some of the enzyme inhibitors? Or must I still soak the oatmeal overnight? And what about brown rice? Does it have enzyme inhibitors? I get from Whole Foods these puffed brown rice cakes with tamari and sesame seeds in/on them. If brown rice has inhibitors, do the rice cakes still have them? Just curious, as I'm trying to eradicate the rest of my physical probs and I'm gradually making more and more dietary changes. (I'm almost completely vegetarian, guys! In fact, I'd eaten meat twice last week, which has now become a big rarity, and I caught a cold! Does that serve me right, or is my cold not related to the meat consumption?) Regardless, I'm learning my lesson Love to all & thank you, --Jeni Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Jen, see answers below.supervixen08 <supervixen08 wrote: But I do have a question, forgive me if it sounds stupid ;)When I cook my (non-instant, 100% whole-grain rolled oats) oatmeal in the morning, does that remove some of the enzyme inhibitors? Or must I still soak the oatmeal overnight? No, you would need to soak oats overnight. I believe oats may take longer.. Make sure your oats are organic or they probably won't sprout. Second, rolled oats are oat groats that are steamed, rolled, and flaked so that they cook quickly, so these would not sprout. And what about brown rice? Does it have enzyme inhibitors? Yes I get from Whole Foods these puffed brown rice cakes with tamari and sesame seeds in/on them. If brown rice has inhibitors, do the rice cakes still have them? Probably you will have to read the label to see if they say sprouted. A good site is www.sproutpeople.com has all kinds of info on sprouting and grains... great place. and you can get grains from there too.Just curious, as I'm trying to eradicate the rest of my physical probs and I'm gradually making more and more dietary changes. (I'm almost completely vegetarian, guys! In fact, I'd eaten meat twice last week, which has now become a big rarity, and I caught a cold! Does that serve me right, or is my cold not related to the meat consumption?) Regardless, I'm learning my lesson ;)Love to all & thank you,--Jeni LauraFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Thanks Suzi I'm fixin' to go to that site, it sounds good. Would rolled oats be bad (as in, having enzyme inhibitors), then, since they won't even sprout? Muchas gracias --Jen herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats> wrote: > Jen, see answers below. > > supervixen08 <supervixen08> wrote: > But I do have a question, forgive me if it sounds stupid > When I cook my (non-instant, 100% whole-grain rolled oats) oatmeal in > the morning, does that remove some of the enzyme inhibitors? Or must > I still soak the oatmeal overnight? No, you would need to soak oats overnight. I believe oats may take longer.. Make sure your oats are organic or they probably won't sprout. Second, rolled oats are oat groats that are steamed, rolled, and flaked so that they cook quickly, so these would not sprout. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 From what I understand of rolled oats, they have been processed so to speak so they still have the enzyme inhibitors. Sprouted oats are much better than rolled oats. I would use up what you have and not get any more...supervixen08 <supervixen08 wrote: Thanks Suzi I'm fixin' to go to that site, it sounds good.Would rolled oats be bad (as in, having enzyme inhibitors), then, since they won't even sprout? Muchas gracias --Jenherbal remedies , Suzanne wrote:> Jen, see answers below.> > supervixen08 wrote: > But I do have a question, forgive me if it sounds stupid > When I cook my (non-instant, 100% whole-grain rolled oats) oatmeal in > the morning, does that remove some of the enzyme inhibitors? Or must > I still soak the oatmeal overnight? No, you would need to soak oats overnight. I believe oats may take longer.. Make sure your oats are organic or they probably won't sprout. Second, rolled oats are oat groats that are steamed, rolled, and flaked so that they cook quickly, so these would not sprout. > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Would stone cut oats sprout? -Shelby supervixen08 [supervixen08] Friday, January 02, 2004 7:59 PM herbal remedies [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question Thanks Suzi I'm fixin' to go to that site, it sounds good. Would rolled oats be bad (as in, having enzyme inhibitors), then, since they won't even sprout? Muchas gracias --Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Yo Senorita, There is nothing wrong with rolled oats as long as you soak them first for a minimum of 8 hours. This will deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. No, rolled oats will not sprout. Whole oats will sprout as will any whole grain. You are perfectly safe to use rolled oats in your morning cereal as long as you soak them first. Course, as they will not sprout they will be a high powered food fit for chipmunks, squirrels and birds. So eat them in moderation. You can eat all the spouted oats you want cause most of the germ gets converted into plant and is much less mucus forming. Don Quai - Suzanne herbal remedies Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:07 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question From what I understand of rolled oats, they have been processed so to speak so they still have the enzyme inhibitors. Sprouted oats are much better than rolled oats. I would use up what you have and not get any more... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Okay Jen, Cooking does not get rid of nor does it deactivate enzyme inhibitors. These foods must be soaked for a minimum of 8 hours first. This is how nature deactivates enzyme inhibitors in seeds, nuts and grains so that they will sprout. Yes, rice contains enzyme inhibitors as do those sesame seeds on top of your rice cakes. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Saturday, January 03, 2004 4:06 AM [herbal remedies] enzyme inhibitor question Hey all ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 What does it mean a enzyme inhibitor, we eat oatmeal every morning [almost] I thought this was a good thing! Sorry but I must have missed the site would you mind giving it again. Thanks Sandra > Thanks Suzi I'm fixin' to go to that site, it sounds good. > Would rolled oats be bad (as in, having enzyme inhibitors), then, > since they won't even sprout? > > Muchas gracias > --Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Se Senor..... please explain the following... there is nothing wrong as long as you soak them to deactivate and then no they won't sprout... why would you do all this if they aren't going to sprout anyway?? DUH SuziDon Quai <mysticalherbalist wrote: Yo Senorita, There is nothing wrong with rolled oats as long as you soak them first for a minimum of 8 hours. This will deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. No, rolled oats will not sprout. Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Why do you wish to eat enzyme inhibitors?? Even if they are rolled they will still contain enzyme inhibitors. Just because someone flattened them does not mean that they have been soaked to deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. Whether you choose to sprout or not they must still be soaked for a minimum of 8 hours. Don Quai - Suzanne herbal remedies Saturday, January 03, 2004 2:45 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question Se Senor..... please explain the following... there is nothing wrong as long as you soak them to deactivate and then no they won't sprout... why would you do all this if they aren't going to sprout anyway?? DUH SuziDon Quai <mysticalherbalist wrote: Yo Senorita, There is nothing wrong with rolled oats as long as you soak them first for a minimum of 8 hours. This will deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. No, rolled oats will not sprout. Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Don I understand that... but rolled oats are oat groats that are steamed, rolled, and flaked so that they cook quickly. Is soaking them going to do any good since they already have been steamed, flaked, etc. SuziDon Quai <mysticalherbalist wrote: Why do you wish to eat enzyme inhibitors?? Even if they are rolled they will still contain enzyme inhibitors. Just because someone flattened them does not mean that they have been soaked to deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. Whether you choose to sprout or not they must still be soaked for a minimum of 8 hours. Don Quai Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Have they been soaked for the minimum amount of time? Have the enzyme inhibitors been deactivated? Cooking does not deactivate the enzyme inhibitors nor does rolling in steel mills. If you don't want the enzyme inhibitors then you must soak the oats whether whole or rolled. Yes, soaking will still deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. Don Quai - Suzanne herbal remedies Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:41 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Don Quai <mysticalherbalist wrote: Have they been soaked for the minimum amount of time? Have the enzyme inhibitors been deactivated? Cooking does not deactivate the enzyme inhibitors nor does rolling in steel mills. If you don't want the enzyme inhibitors then you must soak the oats whether whole or rolled. I know this... but if they have gone thru any type of process will soaking them still deactivate the inhibitors.?. Yes, soaking will still deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. Don Quai Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 - Suzanne herbal remedies Saturday, January 03, 2004 6:25 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question Don Quai <mysticalherbalist wrote: Have they been soaked for the minimum amount of time? Have the enzyme inhibitors been deactivated? Cooking does not deactivate the enzyme inhibitors nor does rolling in steel mills. If you don't want the enzyme inhibitors then you must soak the oats whether whole or rolled. I know this... but if they have gone thru any type of process will soaking them still deactivate the inhibitors.?. Yes, soaking will still deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. Don Quai Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Cool! OK, one last question (for now, lol)...so I can keep getting my organic rolled oats (they are SO convenient for me!) and soak them, and I'll be fine? No enzyme inhibitors then? (Or any other drawback that I should be aware of, for that matter?) Also, (sorry, I know I said one last question, lmao) is soaking as simple as putting the oats in my 2-qt pot with a reasonable amount of water? Or is there a specific optimum amount of water to use? (Sorry for the rudimentary material here, this's my first time doing ANYTHING like this, and I'm so inept at anything having to do with cooking that I just learned to boil water on the stove 2 wks ago! So plz bear with me, y'all ) Thanks again & again, --Jen herbal remedies , " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist> wrote: > Have they been soaked for the minimum amount of time? Have the enzyme > inhibitors been deactivated? Cooking does not deactivate the enzyme > inhibitors nor does rolling in steel mills. If you don't want the enzyme > inhibitors then you must soak the oats whether whole or rolled. > > Yes, soaking will still deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. > > Don Quai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 How do you get all them pretty colors?? (the green underlining and all the red text & all...) herbal remedies , " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist> wrote: > > - > Suzanne > herbal remedies > Saturday, January 03, 2004 6:25 PM > Re: [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question > > > > > Don Quai <mysticalherbalist> wrote: > Have they been soaked for the minimum amount of time? Have the enzyme > inhibitors been deactivated? Cooking does not deactivate the enzyme > inhibitors nor does rolling in steel mills. If you don't want the enzyme > inhibitors then you must soak the oats whether whole or rolled. I know > this... but if they have gone thru any type of process will soaking them > still deactivate the inhibitors.?. > > Yes, soaking will still deactivate the enzyme inhibitors. > > Don Quai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 You will have no problems. You just need enough water to cook them in, if you are going to cook them. Otherwise, soak, drain, and use the water for something else cause it will be full of good stuff. The enzyme inhibitors will be deactivated and will not harm you in the least. So use that water for yourself or your plants. Your choice. Just use distilled water or very well filtered water. Do not ever use tap water to soak your food or cook your food in. Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Saturday, January 03, 2004 6:50 PM [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 herbal remedies , " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist> wrote: >. Do not ever use tap water to soak your food or cook > your food in. > Don, Does this include well water? no chlorine, or flouride. mining ended 100 years ago in our small neck of the woods and nothing was found so there shouldnt be any heavy metals in it either. What's your opinion on this? diane in nw mt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 My position is if you have had it checked and it is clean and you can boil the water in a pan and it leaves no residue then by all means go ahead and use it. Any residue left in your pan though, will be inorganic minerals and won't do your kidneys a whole lot of good. Don Quai - jesusislord57 herbal remedies Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:15 PM [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question herbal remedies , "Don Quai" <mysticalherbalist> wrote:>. Do not ever use tap water to soak your food or cook> your food in.> Don, Does this include well water? no chlorine, or flouride. mining ended 100 years ago in our small neck of the woods and nothing was found so there shouldnt be any heavy metals in it either. What's your opinion on this? ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 Thanks Don, that's what i needed to know diane in nw mt herbal remedies , " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist> wrote: > My position is if you have had it checked and it is clean and you can boil > the water in a pan and it leaves no residue then by all means go ahead and > use it. Any residue left in your pan though, will be inorganic minerals and > won't do your kidneys a whole lot of good. > > Don Quai > - > jesusislord57 > herbal remedies > Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:15 PM > [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question > > > herbal remedies , " Don Quai " > <mysticalherbalist> wrote: > >. Do not ever use tap water to soak your food or cook > > your food in. > > > > Don, > Does this include well water? no chlorine, or flouride. mining ended > 100 years ago in our small neck of the woods and nothing was found so > there shouldnt be any heavy metals in it either. What's your opinion > on this? > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here! > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 I use canning jars...... cover with water by a couple inches. supervixen08 <supervixen08 wrote: Cool! OK, one last question (for now, lol)...so I can keep getting my organic rolled oats (they are SO convenient for me!) and soak them, and I'll be fine? No enzyme inhibitors then? (Or any other drawback that I should be aware of, for that matter?) As long as it's organic and you soak, you'll be fine. Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2004 Report Share Posted January 3, 2004 VERY nice. You're the best! ) (Can I cook the oatmeal in the same water I've soaked them in?) (And is reverse osmosis water good too? It has like 3-4 filters, one of them being charcoal, in case that helps.) Thank you lots!! --Jen herbal remedies , " Don Quai " <mysticalherbalist> wrote: > You will have no problems. You just need enough water to cook them in, if > you are going to cook them. Otherwise, soak, drain, and use the water for > something else cause it will be full of good stuff. The enzyme inhibitors > will be deactivated and will not harm you in the least. So use that water > for yourself or your plants. Your choice. Just use distilled water or very > well filtered water. Do not ever use tap water to soak your food or cook > your food in. > > Don Quai > - > supervixen08 > herbal remedies > Saturday, January 03, 2004 6:50 PM > [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here! > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Hey Sandra The article by Doc that I found most helpful is in the Files. Go to http://health.herbal remediesArticles/ and click on " The Hidden Influence " . Hope that helps! Peace & light, --Jen herbal remedies , " Wayne and Sandra " <rinerw@m...> wrote: > What does it mean a enzyme inhibitor, we eat oatmeal every morning [almost] > I thought this was a good thing! Sorry but I must have missed the site would > you mind giving it again. > Thanks > Sandra > > > Thanks Suzi I'm fixin' to go to that site, it sounds good. > > Would rolled oats be bad (as in, having enzyme inhibitors), then, > > since they won't even sprout? > > > > Muchas gracias > > --Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Yep, yep, yep.!!! Go for it. Enjoy the oatmeal and save me some. Hehehehehehe Don Quai - supervixen08 herbal remedies Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:15 PM [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question VERY nice. You're the best! )(Can I cook the oatmeal in the same water I've soaked them in?)(And is reverse osmosis water good too? It has like 3-4 filters, one of them being charcoal, in case that helps.) ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release 12/30/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Thanks alot Jen Sandra [herbal remedies] Re: enzyme inhibitor question > Hey Sandra > The article by Doc that I found most helpful is in the Files. > Go to > http://health.herbal remediesArticles/ > and click on " The Hidden Influence " . > > Hope that helps! > Peace & light, > --Jen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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