Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 Have you tried Boswelia? Can anyone help me? I have Chondromalacia Patella and have for many years. It runs in my family and my children have it as well. It is not something that we can't live with, but some relief sometimes would be wonderful! My daughters are able to cope with it by taking Glucosamine/Chondroiton. I, however, am allergic to almost anything out of water.....so that's my big problem. I've also tried Chicken Cartelidge, but it made my knees hurt even more than normally. I would like to find some good herbs that would deal with the pain and maybe help rebuild that cartilige. I haven't been able to find anything except for Glucosamine/Chondroiton/MSM, though. Any help will be SO much appreciated! Thanks again. Carrie Ann http://personals..au - Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 Bone Flesh and Cartlidge formula, MSM, Glucosamine, Chondroiton, panther piss, vitamin E , lemon egg, orally. DMSO & Deep Tissue oil externally. I have level 4 arthritis of the knee cap. (and some osteo too).... I did have to have a lateral release along with a scrapping of bone spurs under the knee cap... but this combo will help you..along with a diet change... SuziCarrie Watson <carriewatson32 wrote: Can anyone help me? I have Chondromalacia Patella and have for many years. It runs in my family and my children have it as well. It is not something that we can't live with, but some relief sometimes would be wonderful! My daughters are able to cope with it by taking Glucosamine/Chondroiton. I, however, am allergic to almost anything out of water.....so that's my big problem. I've also tried Chicken Cartelidge, but it made my knees hurt even more than normally. I would like to find some good herbs that would deal with the pain and maybe help rebuild that cartilige. I haven't been able to find anything except for Glucosamine/Chondroiton/MSM, though. Any help will be SO much appreciated! Thanks again.Carrie AnnUpperpoet"No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist." -Oscar Wilde_______________Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialupFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 Hi Carrie, Sometimes building up the muscles of the inner and outer thighs help to hold the patella in a more stable fashion. Because of stairmaster units that only work the top of the thigh, more people are seeing this injury...however you did say that yours was inherited so it might be due to an overly large top thigh muscle that is inherited. You would want to work squeezing the thighs together while an opposing pressure was pushing them apart. Then you would want to work the outer thigh muscles opening the thighs while an opposing pressure was trying to push them in. Sometimes the muscle on the top of the thigh is over-developed and can cause the patella to rock off and rub the femur. We used very moist warm cod liver oil paks wrapped around the knees with a sunlamp on them twice a week for about 30 minutes a session. And we would have clients take cod liver oil internally too. I know, yucko! But this did help quite a few people. The theory is to lubricate the area inside and out to lessen the friction and support the cartilidge. The knee brace thing can be a bummer, but your girls should probably wear one while doing athletics. I wish I had more information I could give you on this. Someone will know of herbs that will help reduce inflammation...that will be key to your healing. Chicken collagen should not cause pain, that surprises me. If you take it with an anti-inflammatory supplement and do exercises to build the strength of the inner and outer side thigh muscles, I would think it to be a helpful program. -dolly herbal remedies , " Carrie Watson " <carriewatson32@h...> wrote: > > Can anyone help me? I have Chondromalacia Patella and have for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 BF & C for rebuilding cartilage. Hot and cold therapy for pain. Deep Tissue Repair Oil, MSM. Could also use a poultice or fomentation of Comfrey leaf. Don Quai - Carrie Watson herbal remedies Saturday, December 27, 2003 8:19 PM [herbal remedies] Chondromalacia Patella Question Can anyone help me? I have Chondromalacia Patella and have for many years. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release 12/26/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2003 Report Share Posted December 28, 2003 Shellfish??? MSM, or methylsulfonylmethane, is a natural sulfur compound found in all living things. It is actually one of the most prominent compounds in our bodies, just behind water and sodium. MSM originates in the ocean and reaches the human food chain through rainfall. It is the prime source of bio-available sulfur, which is lost from our food by processing, drying, cooking and preserving. MSM is an important nutrient (not a drug or medicine) and is a component of over 150 compounds. It is needed by the body for healthy connective tissues and joint function, proper enzyme activity and hormone balance, along with the proper function of the immune system.Because bio-nutritional sulfur plays such a major role in these healthy body functions and others, it was found that supplementation with MSM improves many health problems such as: allergies, asthma, emphysema, lung disfunction, arthritis, headaches, skin problems, stomach and digestive tract problems, circulation, cell osmosis and absorption.MSM acts as an analgesic and anti-inflammatory. It also inhibits muscle spasm and increases blood flow. MSM is critical to the formation of connective tissue of all types. MSM is a natural form of organic sulfur found in all living organisms, including human body fluids and tissues. Sulfur is found in many common foods, including raw milk, meat, fish and a variety of fruits, vegetables, and grains. Carrie Watson <carriewatson32 wrote: Thanks, Suzi. I'm hoping my new 'diet' will help considerably. I'm trying to stay away from most animal products, but all these suggestions I will look into. (I can't use the Glucosamine/Chondroiton/MSM as all of them I have found use shellfish.) I'm definately looking into the panther piss, vitamin E, etc. and will add them all to my diet! Thanks again!Carrie AnnUpperpoet"No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist." -Oscar Wilde_______________Expand your wine savvy — and get some great new recipes — at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.comFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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