Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 For fevers ---- Echinacea Plus Formula, Garlic; Total Tonic; Lots of Hot Baths Also, Catnip - Used for fevers and to alleviate symptoms of childhood diseases. It is good for stomach gas, cramps, and aids in digestion. You can use it for babies and young children for colic, stomach pains, teething and fevers. Catnip and Fennel in a combined tincture is excellent because it is a liquid and concentrated so a few drops are all that is needed. It helps to clean out the mucus in the body. It is used in enemas to bring down fever, eliminate mucus, relax the colon and ease colon cramping. Catnip enemas also relieve the aches of flu. SuziMarti <marti_m wrote: What is the correct, current best way to bring a fever down? I thnk about the Indian's in the teepee steam rooms, but was just told the person should go out in the cold. Things tend to change with new technology. Thanks in advance. Marti Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 what are the mechanics of taking hot baths to bring down a fever? i know this (alcohol rubs) is old remedy, but we used to administer alcohol rubb downs and cool wet clothes on the head. it worked, but will hot baths work better? i know the alcohol and bit of aspirine worked as my son had Asiatic flu back in the late 40's when he was just a few months old and the hospitals where so full, people in the hallways .. that my dr didn't want me to bring him in as he could get something worse and they just didn't have room for any more. he was ill for about 2 weeks and i stayed up 24 hrs a day nursing him, keeping the temp down the first several days, don't know for how long. i put two chairs together, formed an enclosure with sheets so he wouldn't get a draft and rubbed him down. it would come down to a safe level and after a sort time start going back up. a fever is good up to a point as the body is trying to burn out the transgressor, but must be kept to a reasonably safe level which i don't remember what it is any more. curious and interested.. thanks,... love... granny lee- Suzanne herbal remedies Tuesday, December 23, 2003 7:55 PM Re: [herbal remedies] B ringing Down Fevers For fevers ---- Echinacea Plus Formula, Garlic; Total Tonic; Lots of Hot Baths Also, Catnip - Used for fevers and to alleviate symptoms of childhood diseases. It is good for stomach gas, cramps, and aids in digestion. You can use it for babies and young children for colic, stomach pains, teething and fevers. Catnip and Fennel in a combined tincture is excellent because it is a liquid and concentrated so a few drops are all that is needed. It helps to clean out the mucus in the body. It is used in enemas to bring down fever, eliminate mucus, relax the colon and ease colon cramping. Catnip enemas also relieve the aches of flu. SuziMarti <marti_m wrote: What is the correct, current best way to bring a fever down? I thnk about the Indian's in the teepee steam rooms, but was just told the person should go out in the cold. Things tend to change with new technology. Thanks in advance. Marti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 The recuperative and healing properties of hydrotherapy are based on its mechanical and/or thermal effects. It exploits the body's reaction to hot and cold stimuli, to the protracted application of heat, to pressure exerted by the water and to the sensation it gives. The nerves carry impulses felt at the skin deeper into the body, where they are instrumental in stimulating the immune system, influencing the production of stress hormones, invigorating the circulation and digestion, encouraging blood flow, and lessening pain sensitivity. Generally, heat quiets and soothes the body, slowing down the activity of internal organs. Cold, in contrast, stimulates and invigorates, increasing internal activity. If you are experiencing tense muscles and anxiety from your stress, a hot shower or bath is in order. If you are feeling tired and stressed out, you might want to try taking a warm shower or bath followed by a short, invigorating cold shower to help stimulate your body and mind. When you submerge yourself in a bath, a pool, or a whirlpool, you experience a kind of weightlessness. Your body is relieved from the constant pull of gravity. Water also has a hydrostatic effect. It has a massage-like feeling as the water gently kneads your body. Water, in motion, stimulates touch receptors on the skin, boosting blood circulation and releasing tight muscles. Ice baths and alcohol are no longer recommended as they are considered dangerous. For a child I would suggest warm water.Suzileo <leo wrote: what are the mechanics of taking hot baths to bring down a fever? i know this (alcohol rubs) is old remedy, but we used to administer alcohol rubb downs and cool wet clothes on the head. Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in Times Square Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 There are several ways to bring down a high fever. Either a very hot bath giving a diaphoretic tea (this serves to dilate the blood vessels, open the pores, and allow the toxins out of the body) like Yarrow, sage, thyme, catnip, etc. or a very cold bath (the critters do not tolerate the body getting cold and will die). One of my previous spouses had spinal menengitis at one point in her early years and her temp was so high that the doc's put her in a tub and literally dumped ice cubes all around her to bring her body temp low enough to kill the bacteria or virus (whichever one she had). It works but is not a lot of fun. I personally have used the ice cold bath (tub full of straight cold water with as many ice cubes as I had) in order to bring down a very high fever I had on several occasions. It is damn cold but works really well. The fever is the body's way of killing off the invading army of viruses, fungi, and bacteria. If the temp of the body is too high they will die. On the opposite side of the coin if the temp is too low they will die. It is just a defense mechanism of our bodies. Then too, I can remember as a child when my siblings and I all caught the flu at the same time our parents put us in a tub of hot water till we were thoroughly heated, then we were shuffled off to bed with tons of blankets over us and then came the hot toddy. Worked every time. Hot water with a little whiskey and lemon in it is an excellent diaphoretic. If my folks would have been a little more knowledgable they would have included a little cayenne in it too. Don Quai The alcohol rub downs work as well by rapidly cooling the body via evaporation of the alcohol. Unfortunately most of us use or used isopropyl alcohol for this purpose. Rather toxic. - leo herbal remedies Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:24 AM Re: [herbal remedies] B ringing Down Fevers what are the mechanics of taking hot baths to bring down a fever? i know this (alcohol rubs) is old remedy, but we used to ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.554 / Virus Database: 346 - Release 12/20/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 I don't know about everyone else but I always use a combo of hydrotherapy and peppermint/elder flower/yarrow to get the fever to stabalize and then go down. Seems to work quickly, this is what I use for my children as well. Carrie Ann Upperpoet " No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist. " -Oscar Wilde _______________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Suzi, I use 3 ml. of the tincture (for adults)((equal portions of peppermint, Elder flowers, and Yarrow.)) I suppose making a tea would work just as well. This formula is what first brought me to natural medicines! Anyway, sorry I didn't include this earlier! Carrie Ann Upperpoet " No great artist ever sees things as they really are. If he did, he would cease to be an artist. " -Oscar Wilde _______________ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Suzi, thanks for the quick reply.. the answers are, a bit too much coffee and wine, and it's been too long since I did any kind of cleanse, aside from generally being " moderate " in my diet.. (I used to do an herbal cleanse, in Fall and Spring, but haven't the last couple of years. Being on the list is my way of dipping my toe into the water, towards being more proactive about my diet and health. I keep asking the same question, hoping for a different answer, but obviously I need to clean up my act and do a cleanse, a.s.a.p... the other stuff is really secondary, most likely, to an overtaxed set of organs. Scott. herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats> wrote: > Scott, > my first question is what are you eating, drinking?.. could be a combination of things.. > when was the last time you did a cleanse??? > Suzi > > > Scott Hales <hales@v...> wrote: > > I thought at first, it was the herbal extracts in the foot lotion, but it might be the > nut oils in the Biotone lotion and the oil blend, (walnut, pecan, almond) or > both?? I also have been taking Lauricidin (from coconut oil.. supposed to > knock down candida.. I had a couple day cleansing reaction to it, sort of cold- > like symptoms, but the rash has been going on for months., and is mainly in > the areas that contact the massage oil and cream.) which may have bumped > up my immune response (inflamation?) and made latent allergies more > " active " .. I had to resort to cortisone cream to manage the sores. (not good for > massage business.. : / ) I know I am due for a good cleansing, and maybe I'll > be able to start, as I have several days off, now.. > > Any suggestions about allergies, rashes, etc., would be welcome. > > > > > Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in Times Square Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats> wrote: > Scott, > Forgot to ask, what herbs are you currently taking? > Suzi I have been taking a product from coconut, called Lauricidin, and also oregano oil, (occasionally), and a multi vitamin/herb/mineral supplement from Super Nutrition: Men's Blend. I have taken wellness Formula, which has echincea, propolis, garlic, etc., etc., too. Occasionally I took Valerian and Passion Flower, and 5htp (tryptophan), along with GABA (an amino acid), for sleep/stress reduction and relaxation, I ate a LOT of basil this summer, too, and have been under a lot of stress for a long time. The Lauricidin and/or Oregano oil seemed to help with some congestion in my inner ears that was bothering me. I'm not sure if this rash started before or after I first tried the Lauricidin.. one of the side effects may be an increased immune response.. I wondered if that might mean more reactivity to allergens, a kind of autoimmune thing. Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 LOL you're answering your own questions........ try eliminating the wine first, cut down on the coffee. and do a 3 day juice cleanse for now.....eat alot more raw veggies and fruit....see if this helps the allergy SuziScott Hales <hales wrote: Suzi, thanks for the quick reply.. the answers are, a bit too much coffee and wine, and it's been too long since I did any kind of cleanse, aside from generally being "moderate" in my diet.. (I used to do an herbal cleanse, in Fall and Spring, but haven't the last couple of years. Being on the list is my way of dipping my toe into the water, towards being more proactive about my diet and health. I keep asking the same question, hoping for a different answer, but obviously I need to clean up my act and do a cleanse, a.s.a.p... the other stuff is really secondary, most likely, to an overtaxed set of organs. Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in Times Square Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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