Diabetes Insipidus.

December 22, 2003

Alon,

What is this person's diet consist of? You are most likely looking at diet change and a total cleanse..

SuziAlon Shalev <phytotherapist wrote:

Dear Friends,I have just joined the group, directed here by a member of another who saw a question that I posted with out much success.I have just met with a client who has been diagnosed with Diabetes Insipidus. I have gleaned plenty of info about what it is and the allopathic response, but can't find much from the natural health sources that I use.Diabetes Insipidus, as I understand it, is characterized by excretion of large amounts of dilute urine, which disrupts the body's water regulation. To make up for this lost water, the person feels the need to drink large amounts of water and has to urinate frequently, even at night, which obviously disrupts sleep. There is also a dangerthat, because of the excretion of abnormally large volumes of dilute urine, the person quickly becomes dehydrated. The

cause can either lie in a weak kidney that can't absorb ADH - an antidiuretic hormone - or from the hypothalamus failing to produce the ADH. So I assume I am looking for herbs that are have the opposite effect to diuretic herbs and am rather stumped. In addition, I would appreciate anything else that can be a part of a treatment protocol. It is important to note that we are talking about a man in his late seventies who I would describe as active, but somewhat fragile … and not clearly sold on natural healing.Thank you all for any help. I hope my posting is in tune with the group.In peace,Alon ShalevA Gardener's Tale – Alon Shalev's Latest Novelhttp://www.authorsden.com/alonshalevKibbutz Lotanhttp://www.kibbutzlotan.comFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult

your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

December 22, 2003

Suzi - thank you for the prompt reply.

Diet - mainly veggie with occasional poultry. White bread, rice etc. –

He is moving over to a more wholesome diet, primarily because his

wife believes in it and she does the cooking.

A total cleanse – I am doubtful if he could / would deal with this (I

am slightly apprehensive because of his age and the fact that he has

never done this before). The idea of a 3-day fruit fast is well

beyond his willingness at this time. I could move him into this

direction herbally speaking and definitly imrove his diet.

Is there a specific reasoning behind the suggestion, or a more

general treatment protocol?

Thank you for your time, Suzi.

herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats>

wrote:

> Alon,

> What is this person's diet consist of? You are most likely looking

at diet change and a total cleanse..

> Suzi

>

> Alon Shalev <phytotherapist> wrote:

> Dear Friends,

>

> I have just joined the group, directed here by a member of another

> who saw a question that I posted with out much success.

>

> I have just met with a client who has been diagnosed with Diabetes

> Insipidus. I have gleaned plenty of info about what it is and the

> allopathic response, but can't find much from the natural health

> sources that I use.

>

> Diabetes Insipidus, as I understand it, is characterized by

excretion

> of large amounts of dilute urine, which disrupts the body's water

> regulation. To make up for this lost water, the person feels the

need

> to drink large amounts of water and has to urinate frequently, even

> at night, which obviously disrupts sleep. There is also a danger

> that, because of the excretion of abnormally large volumes of

dilute

> urine, the person quickly becomes dehydrated.

>

> The cause can either lie in a weak kidney that can't absorb ADH -

an

> antidiuretic hormone - or from the hypothalamus failing to produce

> the ADH.

>

> So I assume I am looking for herbs that are have the opposite

effect

> to diuretic herbs and am rather stumped. In addition, I would

> appreciate anything else that can be a part of a treatment

protocol.

>

> It is important to note that we are talking about a man in his late

> seventies who I would describe as active, but somewhat fragile …

and

> not clearly sold on natural healing.

>

> Thank you all for any help. I hope my posting is in tune with the

> group.

>

> In peace,

>

> Alon Shalev

>

> A Gardener's Tale – Alon Shalev's Latest Novel

> http://www.authorsden.com/alonshalev

>

> Kibbutz Lotan

> http://www.kibbutzlotan.com

>

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own

physician and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and

any person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own

risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or

products from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner

and members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington@G...

>

December 24, 2003

Hi Alon,

What is this gentleman's diet consist of? Drink? Food? Does he drink coffee, teas, dairy, sodas, alcohol? Does he drink plenty of water? Does he get plenty of sunshine and fresh air? Is he a meat eater, lots of preprocessed foods? Cooked foods? Greasy foods? Junk foods? Fast foods? Does he eat in restaurants a lot? Lots of fresh fruits and vegetables? Does he smoke? What medications is he taking? What do you mean by active and how is he fragile (other than his age)? What is his lifestyle like? Jetsetter? Sedentary?

Awaiting your answers,

Don Quai

-

Alon Shalev

herbal remedies

Monday, December 22, 2003 9:54 PM

[herbal remedies] Diabetes Insipidus.

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December 24, 2003

Hi again Alon,

Which form of DI was he diagnosed with? Nephrogenic, dipsogenic or neurogenic?

Personally, other than, quite possibly dietary changes and lifestyle changes, I would venture to go and say he needs hormone or glandular balancing and tonic herbal preps.

Has he suffered any head injuries at any time? Tumors in the head? This can cause damage to the posterior portion of the pituitary where vasopressin is created. Vasopressin is a hormone that acts on the kidney to reduce urine output.