Guest guest Posted December 18, 2003 Report Share Posted December 18, 2003 Hi Persian, What is wrong with beeswax that you can't use it? Right off the top of my head the only other things I can think of that might possibly work, instead of beeswax, would be lanolin or tallow. You really don't want to use paraffin. HTH, Don Quai (quietly contemplating how ear wax could fit into this) The reason the coconut fat and cocoa butter don't work is cause you mixed them with an oil. They will never set up by themselves that way. This is why beeswax is used or hard tallow. - Persian herbal remedies Friday, December 19, 2003 11:04 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: cayenne salve/coconut oil Hi,I have some coconut fat in a jar from the HFS, it is white and solid at roomtemperature, is this it?I tried to make some eczema salve for my cat! I used the dried herbs, plantain,chickweed etc, ground up and I cooked them really slow in almond oil a low oven with the door ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Ain't no bugs here!Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.551 / Virus Database: 343 - Release 12/11/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Persian You can use shea butter jasminaSuzanne <suziesgoats wrote: Persian, why can't you use beeswax? SuziPersian <persian13 wrote: Hi,On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 09:34:29 +0100, Don Quai wrote:> Coconut oil and olive oil. The only two oils that have been used for> thousands of years by man and with such wondrous results. They both keep> very well indeed and are both very healthy for our bodies.> I have some coconut fat in a jar from the HFS, it is white and solid at roomtemperature, is this it?I tried to make some eczema salve for my cat! I used the dried herbs, plantain,chickweed etc, ground up and I cooked them really slow in almond oil a low oven with the door open for a few hours till the oil was coloured. I read this in the Herbal Medicine MakersHandbook. Then after straining the oil I mixed in some of the coconut fat till it melted but it never set again once the oil was in it. As I can't use beeswax does anyone know a way to get ointments or salves to set?Also I dont know if I should be making an ointment that sits on the skin ora cream that is absorbed?The next thing I tried was cocoa butter, it came in solid pieces but once againwhen mixed with any oil it would not reset, I just tried warming a couple ofspoons of the oil and melting in some (expensive) cocoa butter, without herbs,for a trial, but I can't get anything to firm up.PersianFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 what about the living organisms in our stomach that digest our food??? are they considered animals, too? just curious, wondering where the line is drawn <grin> ???!!! and dust mites??? intestinal parasites... i think i must have taken a "silly pill" this morning enstead of one of my medications!!!! love.. grany lee ---- Original Message ----- Don Quai herbal remedies ....snip.... You must be part Slovenian. I never considered insects to be animals but over here anything that moves by its own volition is called an animal, even fleas, ticks, worms etc. Funny how different languages use different words with a different meaning than ours to say the same thing. HUH??? HTH, Don Quai (going off to check his biology books once again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Please send me one of your pills.. like that I will have an excuse for my sillyness.. Avec amour, Brigitte leo [leo] December 19, 2003 12:12 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: [herbal remedies] Re: cayenne salve/coconut oil what about the living organisms in our stomach that digest our food??? are they considered animals, too? just curious, wondering where the line is drawn <grin> ???!!! and dust mites??? intestinal parasites... i think i must have taken a "silly pill" this morning enstead of one of my medications!!!! love.. grany lee ---- Original Message ----- Don Quai herbal remedies ....snip.... You must be part Slovenian. I never considered insects to be animals but over here anything that moves by its own volition is called an animal, even fleas, ticks, worms etc. Funny how different languages use different words with a different meaning than ours to say the same thing. HUH??? HTH, Don Quai (going off to check his biology books once again) Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Hi Persian, Got a crockpot? Maybe one of those miniature crock pots they use for potpourri? Place the shea or mango butter in it, turn it on low and let it melt. Then add your herbs. Let it heat for a couple of hours and then strain, press or stomp to get the liquid butter back out of the herbs. Then bottle it and allow it to set up. Should work that way with no water. Or you can use the water method. Just have to keep heating the butter till all the water evaporates. I would evaporate as much water as possible first before adding into the butter. HTH, Don Quai - Persian herbal remedies Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:30 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: cayenne salve/coconut oil But I still have to get the herbs in there somehow.Even with the Shea or Mango butter, how can I add the herbs as the problem seems to benothing will set at room temp with oil in, so I am wondering if it's possibleto use an infusion and sort of evaporate the water off??Thanks heaps to all who have helped with this,regardsPersianFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 HI, On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 05:54:03 -0800, angel wrote: > I really dont know much about making salves and such but i made a paste with coconut oil from the same thing you described about it being in the jar looking like fat..well anyway the paste i made i put it in the fridge and it set in about an hour. The paste contained coconut oil, olive oil,and chopped garlic and that's what worked. I don't know much but i hope that helps. Is that everyhting you put in the paste? I really don't want something that only sets in the fridge cos the poor little cat doesn't much like really cold cream on her tummy! hehe I know that olive oil does set in the fridge by itself, I would just like the salve I make to be just like the white coconut fat which is solid just in the cupboard. But I still have to get the herbs in there somehow. Even with the Shea or Mango butter, how can I add the herbs as the problem seems to be nothing will set at room temp with oil in, so I am wondering if it's possible to use an infusion and sort of evaporate the water off?? Thanks heaps to all who have helped with this, regards Persian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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