Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Jen, If you search the files.. you will find many remedies that are NOT Docs.. there is a member contribution file... also, if his remedies work, why not use them.. Thru out the message archives you can find alot of remedies from members... Doc's "So called" agenda as you put it is to teach people to heal themselves... if that is a cult I'm proud to be a part of it. I think you're a bit paranoid here.... research thru the files for yourself...many members have contributed remedies... Suzie g <earthagaia wrote: Well, due to many of the messages in this digest I have decided to call it quits on list this for good. I have subbed and unsubbed a number of times....all in frusteration. Why? There is a lot of good info here, but it is all muddled up in DOC's agenda. The thing that scares me the most is that everyone else just follows his agenda and doesn't have their own. This list is by my definition a CULT. Does anyone here have their own mind or their own remedy? Not as far as I know. I've never seen anything mentioned except for Doc's remedies, and have a fear that if any were mentioned they would be hounded. I am washing my hands clean.Jen-----------DATE: 14 Oct 2003 22:21:14 -000herbal remedies To: herbal remedies Cc: >>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: >1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. >2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. >3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to>prescribe for your own health. >We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as >they behave themselves. >Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person >following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. >It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to >be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. >>Dr. Ian Shillington>Doctor of Naturopathy>Dr.IanShillington------>>There are 25 messages in this issue.>>Topics in this digest:>> 1. Re: Digest Number 2561> "Janet Seidlitz" > 2. Sweeteners> Persian > 3. Re: Digest Number 2561> "Dr. Ian Shillington" > 4. Re: Sweeteners> "Dr. Ian Shillington" > 5. skye - ducks> "nkbaker2001" > 6. Re: Digest Number 2561> Species2001 7. Re: Flu vaccine> Species2001 8. Re: Digest Number 2561> "Dr. Ian Shillington" > 9. Re: Eggstravaganza ( & Stevia)> "jesusislord57" > 10. Re: Flu vaccine> Species2001 11. Colgate Palmolive Company> "Dr. Ian Shillington" > 12. Re: Re: Eggstravaganza ( & Stevia)> "Dr. Ian Shillington" > 13. Re: Digest Number 2561> Species2001 14. Re: Digest Number 2561> Species2001 15. Re: Eggstravaganza ( & Stevia)> "jesusislord57" > 16. Re: Digest Number 2561> Species2001 17. Studies Suggest Millions Not Protected Against Fifth Leading Cause of Death (11-> Species2001 18. Re: Digest Number 2561> Species2001 19. Re: Flu vaccine> "Dr. Ian Shillington" > 20. Re: Flu vaccine> "laura_e25" > 21. Re: Digest Number 2561> "Dr. Ian Shillington" > 22. Re: Digest Number 2561> Species2001 23. Re: Mother Tincture> John Ybarra > 24. Re: Digest Number 2561> John Ybarra > 25. Re: Digest Number 2561> John Ybarra >>>______________________>______________________>>Message: 1> Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:20:56 -0700> "Janet Seidlitz" >Re: Digest Number 2561>>Why not prevent the flu naturally? Eat right, take your Dragon Snot, and have some Total Tonic and Echinacea around just in case you do get sick. Flu vaccine suppresses the immunce system among other things - it will make you sick.>>Janet> - > Species2001 > To: herbal remedies > Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:42 AM> Re: [herbal remedies] Digest Number 2561>>> In a message dated 10/14/2003 11:34:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, blondldyinblk writes:>>> Oh my I didn't know how bad vaccines were. I will let my daughter read> this. I do not want my grandbaby given any of this stuff and I will fix his> bed and my daughter's also as she sleeps on a hospital bed.I was thinking of> getting a flu shot as they say cancer patients should get one but now I am> rethinking that one-is it just as bad? I get so sick from the flu.Hum.> Everything they think up makes one sick. It's a wonder I have lived these 53> years.>>>> I missed the original post but I get th flu shot every year and im ok with it. My sister works for a doctor so she brings them home. Its a heck of a lot better then catching the flu and I recommend you getting it. This is just my oppinion but I wouldnt want to see you catch the flu. It really knocks you out.>> Claudette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 You know, it never ceases to amaze me how some people (the Real Negative Types) manage to show their true antisocial instincts as they do when they leave a group (just as written up in the list policies on those who announce their departure with fanfare). They can be counted upon to leave as destructively as possible. This holds true for marriages, as well as other interpersonal relationships. It seems as if Jen is just one of those who is a Toxic Being. I get the idea that those around her would just fester naturally on account of the connection to her. Now, she's made the announcement that she's leaving, but she hasn't left yet. She's stilllllll here! This is because she wants to see the negative effect she's created and whether or not it bears any fruit. My bet is that her comm below is actually aimed at Claudette to see if she can get Claudette to "leave" with her so that the two of them can go off somewhere and natter and fester together ROTFL Welllllllllllllllllllllllll Jen, one of the nice things about washing your hands is that you are now prepared to eat your, Toast! Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - "e g" <earthagaia <herbal remedies > Tuesday, October 14, 2003 6:57 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Digest Number 2563 > Well, due to many of the messages in this digest I have decided to call it quits on list this for good. I have subbed and unsubbed a number of times....all in frusteration. Why? There is a lot of good info here, but it is all muddled up in DOC's agenda. The thing that scares me the most is that everyone else just follows his agenda and doesn't have their own. This list is by my definition a CULT. Does anyone here have their own mind or their own remedy? Not as far as I know. I've never seen anything mentioned except for Doc's remedies, and have a fear that if any were mentioned they would be hounded. > > I am washing my hands clean.> > Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 No problem... just speaking the truth... anyone can check the files and archives and see for themselves. Suzi "Dr. Ian Shillington" <Dr.IanShillington wrote: Thanks hon. I do appreciate the back-up. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Suzanne herbal remedies Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:04 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Digest Number 2563 Jen, If you search the files.. you will find many remedies that are NOT Docs.. there is a member contribution file... also, if his remedies work, why not use them.. Thru out the message archives you can find alot of remedies from members... Doc's "So called" agenda as you put it is to teach people to heal themselves... if that is a cult I'm proud to be a part of it. I think you're a bit paranoid here.... research thru the files for yourself...many members have contributed remedies... SuziFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 To all: I went to the site of the distributor of the flu shot and it did list one of the chemicals that one should not injest. Due to the fact that my immune system must not be too great if I got cancer. I had fever for 2 weeks in the hospital a couple a months from pancretitis that I got from having the ERCP I was asked to take to see if I had bile duct cancer. I took a phnemonia one last year so I am covered (maybe).I think I will not get one this year!!! and take my chances.I am trying to detox my body and just what I need are more toxins, right? I enjoy reading about your different ideas. I hope to learn more. I would like to be able to go out to the woods and survive and know what to do to heal myself and those around me. We never know when that might happen-that we have a war right here or some such thing. I was in the earthquake in CA so I have wondered if the world was collapsing around me. Gives you a whole NEW perspective on life! keep up the banter. I love it. Rosalind - <herbal remedies > <herbal remedies > Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:21 PM [herbal remedies] Digest Number 2563 Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington ------ There are 25 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Digest Number 2561 " Janet Seidlitz " <dragonhealing 2. Sweeteners Persian <persian13 3. Re: Digest Number 2561 " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington 4. Re: Sweeteners " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington 5. skye - ducks " nkbaker2001 " <nkbaker2001 6. Re: Digest Number 2561 Species2001 7. Re: Flu vaccine Species2001 8. Re: Digest Number 2561 " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington 9. Re: Eggstravaganza ( & Stevia) " jesusislord57 " <jesusislord57 10. Re: Flu vaccine Species2001 11. Colgate Palmolive Company " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington 12. Re: Re: Eggstravaganza ( & Stevia) " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington 13. Re: Digest Number 2561 Species2001 14. Re: Digest Number 2561 Species2001 15. Re: Eggstravaganza ( & Stevia) " jesusislord57 " <jesusislord57 16. Re: Digest Number 2561 Species2001 17. Studies Suggest Millions Not Protected Against Fifth Leading Cause of Death (11- Species2001 18. Re: Digest Number 2561 Species2001 19. Re: Flu vaccine " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington 20. Re: Flu vaccine " laura_e25 " <laura_e23 21. Re: Digest Number 2561 " Dr. Ian Shillington " <Dr.IanShillington 22. Re: Digest Number 2561 Species2001 23. Re: Mother Tincture John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929 24. Re: Digest Number 2561 John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929 25. Re: Digest Number 2561 John Ybarra <deuteronomy2929 ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:20:56 -0700 " Janet Seidlitz " <dragonhealing Re: Digest Number 2561 Why not prevent the flu naturally? Eat right, take your Dragon Snot, and have some Total Tonic and Echinacea around just in case you do get sick. Flu vaccine suppresses the immunce system among other things - it will make you sick. Janet - Species2001 herbal remedies Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:42 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Digest Number 2561 In a message dated 10/14/2003 11:34:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, blondldyinblk writes: Oh my I didn't know how bad vaccines were. I will let my daughter read this. I do not want my grandbaby given any of this stuff and I will fix his bed and my daughter's also as she sleeps on a hospital bed.I was thinking of getting a flu shot as they say cancer patients should get one but now I am rethinking that one-is it just as bad? I get so sick from the flu.Hum. Everything they think up makes one sick. It's a wonder I have lived these 53 years. I missed the original post but I get th flu shot every year and im ok with it. My sister works for a doctor so she brings them home. Its a heck of a lot better then catching the flu and I recommend you getting it. This is just my oppinion but I wouldnt want to see you catch the flu. It really knocks you out. Claudette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Hey Lynn, Thank you! Jen left immediately after she posted that message.. Just another "POT STIRRER" I guess... Well, my daddy always told me " You can't please everyone" Suzipearlmoon wrote: Hey!!Wait a minute! I sent in a number of teas and remedies a while back. Theyshould be in the files if not in the archives and Don has contributed areally nice lymph cleans as well. The members of this groups "do"contribute, if not with remedies all the time, then with advise. Some of uson this list joined to learn from Doc as well. I wouldn't consider that acult at all.Pearlmoon/Lynn- "e g" Tuesday, October 14, 2003 8:57 PMRe: [herbal remedies] Digest Number 2563> Well, due to many of the messages in this digest I have decided to call itquits on list this for good. I have subbed and unsubbed a number oftimes....all in frusteration. Why? There is a lot of good info here, but itis all muddled up in DOC's agenda. The thing that scares me the most is thateveryone else just follows his agenda and doesn't have their own. This listis by my definition a CULT. Does anyone here have their own mind or theirown remedy? Not as far as I know. I've never seen anything mentioned exceptfor Doc's remedies, and have a fear that if any were mentioned they would behounded.>> I am washing my hands clean.>> Jen>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Here's what I know, since I have been here, oh, I guess about a year now, I have learned soooo much good in regards to health, that is, eating healthful foods, taking healthful tinctures that don't crap up the body, but heal the body, I could go on and on and I have had many wins by applying this knowledge to my body and sharing with those around me, as well. I have learned from Doc, Valerie, Suzi, Don, Lisa, Laura, John, Granny Lee, Angel and others whose names escape me at the moment, but am grateful. Along with the above, we have shared many good, healing laughs and if this is a cult, I am so HAPPY to be here. Some people are so ready to call a group a "cult", when they need to really define that word for themselves in the dictionary. For one, "cult" is the root word for culture. Thanks to all here who have given me and others a new lease on life and a special thanks to Doc, your articles are always so informative and as pj said, you have given a lot. Love, Phyllis In a message dated 10/15/03 2:13:01 PM Mountain Daylight Time, dragonhealing writes: Lemme guess - another one of Debbie/Claudette's personalities?? LMAO Janet - "e g" <earthagaia <herbal remedies > Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:57 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Digest Number 2563 >Well, due to many of the messages in this digest I have decided to call it quits on list this for good. I have subbed and unsubbed a number of times....all in frusteration. Why? There is a lot of good info here, but it is all muddled up in DOC's agenda. The thing that scares me the most is that everyone else just follows his agenda and doesn't have their own. This list is by my definition a CULT. Does anyone here have their own mind or their own remedy? Not as far as I know. I've never seen anything mentioned except for Doc's remedies, and have a fear that if any were mentioned they would be hounded. > >I am washing my hands clean. > >Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Thank you Phyllis. Your vote of confidence gives me the warm fuzzies. It is appreciative people like you who make it all worth while for Suzi, Don, Valorie, Lisa, Laura, John, Granny, Angel, Mary, and many others on our list who contribute their valuable time to help others. As said earlier by ... I forget who, we do this from a sense of love, respect for our fellow man, and most of all because we "CARE". And, I'm glad you like the Articles. With the kind words below, you just know, they'll keep on coming. LOL Much love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - ChinLdy herbal remedies Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:48 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Digest Number 2563 Here's what I know, since I have been here, oh, I guess about a year now, I have learned soooo much good in regards to health, that is, eating healthful foods, taking healthful tinctures that don't crap up the body, but heal the body, I could go on and on and I have had many wins by applying this knowledge to my body and sharing with those around me, as well. I have learned from Doc, Valerie, Suzi, Don, Lisa, Laura, John, Granny Lee, Angel and others whose names escape me at the moment, but am grateful. Along with the above, we have shared many good, healing laughs and if this is a cult, I am so HAPPY to be here. Some people are so ready to call a group a "cult", when they need to really define that word for themselves in the dictionary. For one, "cult" is the root word for culture. Thanks to all here who have given me and others a new lease on life and a special thanks to Doc, your articles are always so informative and as pj said, you have given a lot. Love, Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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