the flu

[Guest guest]

sheko:lih,

my man has the flu! i am treating him with homeopathy, and teas- what else

can i do? he is sooo sore, and he went from sore throat to on the couch in

about 1 hr- weird, but thats how you know it is the flu. its only been 2

days, i hope this goes quickly. any suggestions are welcome

yaw^ko!

danielle

[Guest guest]

Without knowing anymore specifics and symptoms, the first homeopathic that comes

to

mind is Occilococcinum (available at health food stores). " So sore " has me also

think of

Eupatorium perfoliatum--what I call the remedy for the Achey Breaky Flu.

Gelsemium flu

symtpoms would include chills up the spine and an occipital headache.

 

However, the Occilo is a wonderful flu remedy that everyone should have on hand;

it

definitely will shorten the course of the flu when taken early on in the

symptoms.

 

Cathleen Springer

Certified Homeopath/

Homeopathy Teleseminar Training

 

 

 

, " pete and danielle " <wrathchilde

wrote:

>

> sheko:lih,

> my man has the flu! i am treating him with homeopathy, and teas- what else

> can i do? he is sooo sore, and he went from sore throat to on the couch in

> about 1 hr- weird, but thats how you know it is the flu. its only been 2

> days, i hope this goes quickly. any suggestions are welcome

> yaw^ko!

> danielle

>

[Guest guest]

Flu bath always works for us.

 

1 cup epsom salts -for body aches/detox

1 tbls Dry mustard - detox

1tbls ground ginger -detox

few drops lavender oil - for relaxing

few drops ( if tolerated ) eucalytpus oil - for

congestion

 

Combine in hot tub and soak as long as you can stand

it. While in the tub drink tepid ( room temp ) water

to induce sweating. Shower off residue and then get

some sleep and let the body heal.

 

You will feel weak, but better after this soak. It's

very potent and effective. I've been doing this soak

for over 30 years whenever I get the first sign of flu

and sleep. I've never had a flu last more than 2 days

tops.

 

Jenny Kernan

 

 

--- pete and danielle <wrathchilde wrote:

 

> sheko:lih,

> my man has the flu! i am treating him with

> homeopathy, and teas- what else

> can i do? he is sooo sore, and he went from sore

> throat to on the couch in

> about 1 hr- weird, but thats how you know it is the

> flu. its only been 2

> days, i hope this goes quickly. any suggestions are

> welcome

> yaw^ko!

> danielle

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

---the flu is a virus yes ..

for these could try the bob beck protocol

 

have a look a this presentaion

Beck videos

 

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2095786730805958061

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3451198977216830251 & q=bob+beck

 

a bit about the subject

Dr Robert Beck Energetic-Medicine researcher

1925-2002

Dr Robert Beck was a physicist, who has to his name a PhD in physics

from the University of Southern California. Prior to USC Dr. Beck was

a Professor at the University of California. Dr. Beck is known as a

renowned researcher and inventor in the field of Energy Medicine

devices. Amongst his achievements he is accredited with a version of

the Brain Tuner. This device has been successful in helping to

alleviate anxiety, addictions, insomnia and depression. As he

initially trained as a photojournalist he applied his inventive flair

and curiosity toward flash photography. He was the inventor of the

strobe flashlight.

 

He has been nominated by a Mexican hospital for the Noble Prize for

his research in developing an Aids cure.

 

Bob Beck formed his first company specialising in the development of a

powerful electroencephalograph unit. Through his company he conducted

extensive research on the electrical properties of the brain. From

this research was born a powerful electroencephalograph unit. After

reading articles on a 'black box' device, developed by a British

surgeon, Dr. Margaret Patterson, he became increasingly interested in

the potential of electricity and the brain. Dr Patterson had developed

this 'black box' with Dr Wong of Hong Kong an expert in

electro-acupuncture. Though its inventors to help reduce symptoms of

recovering drug addicts used this black box, Beck saw other potential

for this device.

 

Bob Beck used research and technology from the black box to develop

his own device. He called it the Brain Tuner. Based around the

principal of frequencies it used over 200 specific frequencies to

encourage the rejuvenation, healing, and rapid re-stimulation of the

neuro-transmitters.

 

Bob Beck's research then led on to look at the effect of electrical

frequency on the lymphatic system. Working on the basis that many

viral infections ay shelter in the lymph nodes, he developed a

magnetic pulse generator to induce electricity in specific nodes

around the body. Beck's work in this field led him to do much work

with HIV and AIDS patients. His studies also highlighted

ionic/colloidal silver as a natural antibiotic, providing a potential

alternative to the somewhat clumsy approach of pharmaceutical

antibiotics. He went on to elaborate his research by creating devices

able to make colloidal/ionic silver at home.

 

Bob Beck went on to lecture and give demonstrations at health trade

shows around North America. It was at one such show in Seattle, in

1996 that a couple (Russ Torlage and Lesley Punt) came across Beck's

device. Lesley Punt was suffering from M.E. of Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome and the couple were at the Seattle show looking for possible

ways to alleviate her condition. They took Beck's device and

redesigned it, making it an accessible tool for public use.

 

In pursuit of improving the affectivity of Beck's device Dr. Beck

introduced a protocol. Along with the both blood electrification the

protocol also includes the making of ionic/colloidal silver, and the

ozonation of drinking water, thus increasing the level of oxygen in

the blood.

 

What is The Beck Protocol?

There are four parts to The Beck Protocol.

1. Microcurrent therapy for cleansing the blood

Over the years, while enjoying the fruits of a successful career as an

acclaimed physicist, Robert (Bob) C. Beck, D.Sc. maintained an

interest in electro-therapy for health. When he heard that viruses and

other pathogens had been deactivated in a medical research study by

the application of microcurrents of electricity to blood, his

considerable intellect and ingenuity were aroused. While the medical

research suggested the application of microcurrents similar to

dialysis with the blood flowing out and then back into the body, Bob

Beck developed a system to apply microcurrents to blood without

invading the body. He developed a simple system for applying these

microcurrents by placing electrodes over the wrist arteries.

2. Magnetic pulsing for tissue electrification

After considerable experimentation on himself, friends, acquaintances

and a few individuals diagnosed with AIDS, all reaped some health

benefit. Soon, however, he realized that the blood might be cleared of

viruses or other pathogens but these same pathogens could be

temporarily hiding in the lymph system. To create the necessary

microcurrents in lymph and tissue to neutralize viruses and other

pathogens, he developed a magnetic pulse generator. Pulsed magnetic

fields create microcurrents in lymph and other tissue.

3. Drinking ionic/colloidal silver

Bob explains how he awoke at 4:00 a.m. one morning with a sudden

insight. He knew colloidal silver had been used extensively prior to

the advent of antibiotics. He awoke with an insight on how to make

colloidal silver electrically—easily and inexpensively. Thus was born

an industry for the manufacture of home units to make colloidal

silver. Ionic/colloidal silver is made using 99.99% pure silver wires,

distilled water and an electrical circuit.

4. Drinking freshly ozonated water

By this time, Bob Beck was on the lecture circuit at health shows to

make his discoveries known. At his lectures, he also provided papers

with information about his work and the schematics to build units.

These lectures gave Bob an opportunity to talk with many people who

had either bought or built his units and were using them to improve

their health. One problem kept recurring. Many experienced flu-like

symptoms as a result of the die-off of the pathogens. The body was not

able to expel the toxins fast enough. Bob always stated the importance

of drinking enough water to help flush toxins but one day he realized

adding ozone to the water would speed the detoxification process.

Ozone is a great detoxifier but ozone was generally only available

using expensive medical devices. Bob visited a fish supply store as he

knew they used ozone to keep the fish tanks oxygenated. Eureka! Bob

and his friends started freshly ozonating a glass of water before

drinking it. Bob used a pulse oxymeter on the finger to measure blood

oxygen saturation and discovered, water saturated with ozone would

increase the level of oxygen in the blood. Thus the fourth part of The

Beck Protocol was added—drinking freshly ozonated water to help flush

toxins.

A big advantage of The Beck Protocol is that it can be used in the

privacy of your home. The effectiveness of The Beck Protocol has

spread worldwide—largely by word-of-mouth. People around the world

have found the tools offered by The Beck Protocol have helped them

heal and recover … from minor ailments to debilitating diseases. SOTA

Instruments Inc. collects testimonials from customers who use the

units. We have published some of these testimonials in The Beck

Protocol Handbook.

Bob Beck gained confidence in SOTA Instruments as a company that

offered a high standard of quality. He endorsed SOTA as a supplier of

units for The Beck Protocol. For blood electrification and making

ionic/colloidal silver, SOTA offers The Silver Pulser. For lymph and

tissue electrification, The Magnetic Pulser. For freshly ozonating

drinking water, The Water O3zonator. For making ionic/colloidal silver

only, The Silver Maker. See our Recommended Products section.

See Electrifying Books & Videos section for a video How to Use The

Beck Protocol. This video features Dr. Eliezer Ben-Joseph, ND as host.

With three guests asking questions, he provides all you need to know

to use the protocol at home for personal health. The Beck Protocol

Handbook package includes Beck's original papers, testimonials and

Bob's 1983 talk on The Brain Tuner. The booklet Electricity for Health

in the 21st Century is included with the package. This booklet

provides amazing insights into the electrical nature of the body and

the history of electro-therapy.

A new video, An Introduction to The Beck Protocol will be available in

2003. It will offer health practitioners who have experience with the

protocol, individuals who have had profound healing experiences with

the help of The Beck Protocol and an interview with Robert C. Beck.

The video includes lively interviews exposing the politics of health

as well.

See our Researchers to Know section for details about Bob Beck's

electronic instrumentation, brain research and more on the birth of

The Beck Protocol.

 

Beck videos

 

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2095786730805958061

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3451198977216830251 & q=bob+beck

 

EXACT MEANS AND METHODS FOR ELIMINATING INFECTIOUS DISEASES and CANCER

Copyright 1998 Robert C. Beck, D.Sc. January 14, 1998

(The complete process is described here in detail to allow anyone to

successfully achieve recoveries and insure that the currently proven

methods will never again be " lost " or suppressed.)

WHAT YOU DO:

1. Apply salt-water moistened electrodes over Ulnar and Radial

arteries on opposite insides of same wrist. A Velcro® and elastic

strap holds electrodes in place. You must electrify blood for one to

two hours every day for three weeks. This should not interfere with

other activities. As your blood circulates normally, enough will be

flowing along this path in forearm until most blood in your body is

eventually treated by the 50 to 100 microampere current flowing

internally. About 3 to 5 milliamperes is necessary at the skin to

overcome resistive losses through tissue before current reaches blood.

2. Drink 8 to 16 OZ of 3 to 5 ppm self-made Silver Colloid daily.

Costing under 1 cent per gallon, colloids are shown to easily control

opportunistic infections. This gives you a second intact immune

system. Colloids can be generated in the same water while ozonizing.

3. Apply your magnetic pulse generator for about 20 minutes daily by

positioning and pulsing coil over lymph nodes and internal organs.

Pulse each time it recharges at several second intervals. Pulses of

high intensity time-varying magnetic flux generate a measurable back

e.m.f. in adjacent tissue thus neutralizing any residual germinating

and incubating pathogens. Without this step, sufferers have been known

to sometimes reinfect themselves. Conventional permanent magnets

positively will not work.

4. Drink as much ozonated water as you can comfortably ingest daily.

You must generate fresh ozone yourself each time and drink immediately

since ozone has a half-life of only a few minutes. All known pathogens

and cancers are anaerobic. Ozone aids their elimination by oxidation

and speeds your detoxification and recovery with no discomfort.

Consuming ozone water flushes neutralized pathogens, wastes and toxins

from your system.

THESE FOUR STEPS WORK SYNERGISTICALLY AND ALMOST MAGICALLY AND SHOULD

BE USED TOGETHER. AVERAGE TIME FOR RECOVERY IS UNDER A MONTH.

If you are not technically oriented, you may skip the following.

HOW AND WHY YOU must DO THIS:

1. The blood electrifier and silver colloid maker are usually combined

in one small plastic box, typically 3-3/4 " X 2-1/4 " X 1 " (cigarette

pack size) containing one outlet for wrist electrodes and a second

outlet for colloid making. A single 9 volt transistor radio battery

drives a voltage tripler, and a single-IC-chip switches the 27 volts

from negative to positive 3.92 times each second. A biphasic square

wave with sharp rise time output is fed to a 3.5 mm jack connecting to

two 3/32 " stainless steel electrodes 1 " long each covered with two

layers of 100% cotton flannel saturated with dilute salt water. A

potentiometer allows users to adjust output until comfortable. Red and

green LED's show polarity reversal (essential for safe blood

electrification) and overall system functioning. A grain-of-wheat lamp

indicates current flow when making ionic colloid. Precise electrode

locations are determined by carefully feeling arterial pulse points on

opposite insides of same wrist and positioning saturated electrodes

precisely along the paths where arteries come closest to surface.

Locations are critical, since objective is to supply maximal current

into blood and not waste it in surrounding flesh. Typical impedance

measured from electrode-to-electrode may be as low as 2000 ohms.

Adjust output for strongest comfortable level. Schematics, parts lists

and detailed instructions appear in [elsewhere in these lecture

notes]. Anyone can build his own system: you need buy nothing except

replacement batteries. However commercially available systems are

inexpensive, reliable, and are usable immediately.

2. Ionic Silver Colloids of excellent quality and freshness are easily

user-made as follows - Pure silver (99.9%) 14 gauge electrodes,

providing anode and cathode about 6 " long, are immersed in an 8 OZ

glass of room-temperature water (tap or distilled) and the 27 volt DC

output is applied for about 3 minutes in tap water and 20 minutes in

distilled water or until water appears milky. Stir and drink

immediately two or three times daily. I ozonate the water while making

colloid and drink the combination immediately. Some prefer " golden "

colloids, easily made by using only heated (150 degrees F) distilled

water in Pyrex containers with electrodes activated for ~20 minutes.

Store silver colloid in dark brown bottles. Keep out of light and do

not refrigerate.

3. MAGNETIC PULSER: This extremely useful tool neutralizes active,

hibernating or incubating pathogens being normally processed in lymph,

spleen, liver, skin, kidney, stomach muscles and other tissue. It is

easily made by purchasing or winding a ~2.5 millihenry coil and

driving it with a 35 to 70 Watt-Second (Joules) electronic flash or

" strobe " . (A Joule is (1/2 CV^2) where C is in microfarads and V is in

Kilovolts.) A self-wound inductance coil of ~130 turns of 14 or 16

gauge, plain enameled magnet wire works well. A 2.5 mH audio speaker

cross-over coil is prettier. The coil is simply wired between one

electrode of the strobe flash lamp and its capacitor. The device, if

self-made, costs about $27 and is vasty more powerful than $5000 to

$7O00 commercial devices of far less measurable power. The coil kicks

a steel washer several feet into the air when pulsed thus showing the

" occult " (invisible) energy going into your body during use. A typical

finished device (Future Tech Today, USA 1-(866)-747-7447) tests 600

mfd, 330-350V, 36 WS, 21,429 Gauss, 105 Amperes peak, 17,850 Ampere

Turns pulse rise time ~1.8 microseconds, pulse duration ~2.6

milliseconds, penetration ~8 " in tissue. It and its AC power supply

fit in a box 1-1/2 " X 2-5/8 " X 4-1/2 " with an external applicator coil

2-3/4 " diameter X 1-3/8 " thick on a 4' cord. (These details are

offered for professionals only.)

4. OZONIZED DRINKING WATER: Before adding this final step to the

" magic four " , we had some very uncomfortable full-blown AIDS patients

while they were detoxifying. All are now completely well and symptom

free. By simply drinking ozone-charged water, most of the benefits of

ozone use such as insufflation (ozone enemas), autohemotherapy, ozone

injections and blood bubbling, Oxygen Bars and Hyperbaric Oxygen

chambers were easily surpassed and made simple and inexpensive. Tanks

of " medical oxygen " (identical to welding oxygen) require medical

prescriptions. Ozonized water is made from oxygen in ambient air and

costs nothing. MAKING YOUR OWN: You can purchase ozone generators

legally in tropical fish (aquarium) stores. Preferred is the 200 ML

Sander (brand) ozonizer used with an aquarium aerator pump. Air pumped

through a bubble-making " stone " is passed through chilled water.

Depending on the strength ozone maker you buy, water becomes

" saturated " in a few minutes and must be drunk immediately. You can

see an increase in % blood oxygen saturation which often reaches 100%

within minutes. Do NOT use ultra-violet (cheapest but almost useless)

generators. Use ONLY cold-corona high voltage ozonizers. Construction

and use is fully explained in my main paper.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In , " pete and danielle "

<wrathchilde wrote:

>

> sheko:lih,

> my man has the flu! i am treating him with homeopathy, and teas-

what else

> can i do? he is sooo sore, and he went from sore throat to on the

couch in

> about 1 hr- weird, but thats how you know it is the flu. its only been 2

> days, i hope this goes quickly. any suggestions are welcome

> yaw^ko!

> danielle

>

[Guest guest]

that bath sounds devine.. and so helpful thanks for sharing it with the group..

i personally will try it sometime hopfully not to soon.. lol

 

virginia

-

Jenny Kernan

Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:54 PM

Re: the flu

 

 

Flu bath always works for us.

 

1 cup epsom salts -for body aches/detox

1 tbls Dry mustard - detox

1tbls ground ginger -detox

few drops lavender oil - for relaxing

few drops ( if tolerated ) eucalytpus oil - for

congestion

 

Combine in hot tub and soak as long as you can stand

it. While in the tub drink tepid ( room temp ) water

to induce sweating. Shower off residue and then get

some sleep and let the body heal.

 

You will feel weak, but better after this soak. It's

very potent and effective. I've been doing this soak

for over 30 years whenever I get the first sign of flu

and sleep. I've never had a flu last more than 2 days

tops.

 

Jenny Kernan

 

--- pete and danielle <wrathchilde wrote:

 

> sheko:lih,

> my man has the flu! i am treating him with

> homeopathy, and teas- what else

> can i do? he is sooo sore, and he went from sore

> throat to on the couch in

> about 1 hr- weird, but thats how you know it is the

> flu. its only been 2

> days, i hope this goes quickly. any suggestions are

> welcome

> yaw^ko!

> danielle

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Thea it was interesting to read about your backround because I also was raised in a mennonite backround. I am in Ontario Canada Edith

 

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thea

health_and_healing

Cc: nobltn528

Friday, February 08, 2008 11:05 AM

THE FLU

 

 

 

Well well well!

Let me take you back to the 1940's and 50's when I was a little girl and my Mennonite raised father (German father - English mother) had some pretty different ideas about getting sick.

I can never remember having a cold or the flu for more than 4 hours tops. You see Dad thoroughly believe that when we got sick, it was because our systems (bodies) had too much bad stuff in them, and had to be cleaned out.

If I started with the "heaves" I immediately got a dose of Milk of Magnesia. It only took about three doses - the first two would come up - the third would stay down - and I was eating at the next meal - maybe a little shaky on the feet - but getting better. Others in and around the "church family" would be sick and stay sick for a week - but we were not allowed to stay sick.

In the 1950's an old lady came by our house when Dad was starting with a cold - and put some herbs in a pan to heat - all of our heads immediately cleared up - dad was told to drink the water only - but he was afraid to because he didn't know what she had tossed into that pan. However, the next day we were all well!!! and stayed well the rest of the winter -- Just from breathing the fumes???

When I got married in the early 60's my husband had a doctor in the family who would eat a slice of onion every day at every meal. Said it kept him well!!

My mother told me the story about her brother's bronchitis - and how grandmother would take an onion and slice and cook it - and her brother would eat it -- and his bronchitis would be gone - sometimes he would grab a slice or two of raw onion because it was taking too long for the water to get hot. But he was immediately better.

Well, we are staying well - not getting out in crowds, eating onions and garlic every day.

Life was interesting - and is interesting now!

I do not believe in medicine because -- I was on Premarin for 25 years -- it was suppose to protect my bones (didn't do anything for them), protect my heart (I question what it did), and then we are told it doesn't do what they said it would do. Sorry! I only believe a lie from someone who lies the first time - then I am a skeptic forever thereafter. If they could lie to me about Premarin, they will lie like dogs about everything else -- they are liars! and the people in authority are aiding and abetting the liars. In my book it is called " attempted murder", and if our legal system wasn't bought and paid for by the liars, we would all have the knowledge we need to keep ourselves well. However, when the food supply, water supply and air supply are tainted with God knows what - we are at the mercy of it all.

All of us are not lucky enough to be able to grow our own food. However, if the air and water are tainted with bad stuff - it doesn't do much good - because you are slowly poisoning yourself also. After all a plant can only put good stuff in when it has good stuff to put in and if they air is poison then the plant cannot take up the good stuff it should have. Our soil was being depleted back in the 60's and 70's according to the guru's back then - so?

Enough of what I think

All praise to God for keeping us and teaching us what we need to know to stay as healing as we can stay. I guess I could say that we don't have the old fashioned sense to realize that we are only healed by a loving God anyway. All of the old doctors I had, always said that they didn't heal anything -- that the man upstairs did the healing - they were only accessories to the fact.

thea

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