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Hi all, my sister in law and her 14 year old daughter both have lupus and we are

very concerned for there health and well being. I was wondering if there is

anything that can be done for them. is there any natural items that they can

take to help with the flare ups and also decrease the symptons. please let me

know

Bazhena

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gailhess

 

Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:35 AM

Discoid lupus

 

 

Discoid lupus can be treated naturally? How? Suggestions please!

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Quantum Biofeedback Therapies will help to reduce and

or lessen symptoms while working to find the original

cause that made the Lupus appear. And Biofeedback IS

natural and non invasive.

 

Jenny Kernan

Quantum Biofeedback Therapist

--- Bazhena77 wrote:

 

> Hi all, my sister in law and her 14 year old

> daughter both have lupus and we are very concerned

> for there health and well being. I was wondering if

> there is anything that can be done for them. is

> there any natural items that they can take to help

> with the flare ups and also decrease the symptons.

> please let me know

> Bazhena

> " God has given me the greatest gift the gift of

> being noticed. "

>

>

>

> gailhess

>

> Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:35 AM

> Discoid lupus

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>

> Discoid lupus can be treated naturally? How?

> Suggestions please!

> Gail

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I only have some vague stuff on lupus. I felt really bad for 2 or 3

yrs., kept going to the doctor, who ignored me, treated me like a

hypochondriac. Sometimes I would have this puffy redness across my

nose and cheeks, like an alcoholic, but I didn't drink much. Guess I

never asked the dr. about that, particularly. Finally went to a

different dr., for something else, and he ordered some blood tests.

ANA (antinuclear antibodies) was " borderline, maybe lupus, and there's

not really anything you can do about it " . Went home and searched the

internet, and the symptoms matched up.

 

Long story short, it scared me enough that I ate nothing but good

whole food for a month, and took lots of digestive enzymes with every

meal, and by a month and 1/2 felt great, no rash or anything. Well,

that kind of diet would be good for almost everything. I didn't notice

how my bowel movements were, but now I know that has a lot to do with

how I feel.

 

I relapsed into not eating all good food, but still take the digestive

enzymes (almost twice what it recommends on the bottle), and only

occasionally get a little bit of that redness and achy joints and stuff.

 

Sure is good to know that there IS something I can do about it...

 

Joy

 

, Bazhena77 wrote:

>

> Hi all, my sister in law and her 14 year old daughter both have

lupus and we are very concerned for there health and well being. I was

wondering if there is anything that can be done for them. is there any

natural items that they can take to help with the flare ups and also

decrease the symptons. please let me know

> Bazhena

> " God has given me the greatest gift the gift of being noticed. "

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thank you for that information as well i make sure to give it to my sister in

law as well.

Bazhena

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Tue, 27 Mar 2007 9:05 PM

Re: lupus ?

 

 

Quantum Biofeedback Therapies will help to reduce and

or lessen symptoms while working to find the original

cause that made the Lupus appear. And Biofeedback IS

natural and non invasive.

 

Jenny Kernan

Quantum Biofeedback Therapist

--- Bazhena77 wrote:

 

> Hi all, my sister in law and her 14 year old

> daughter both have lupus and we are very concerned

> for there health and well being. I was wondering if

> there is anything that can be done for them. is

> there any natural items that they can take to help

> with the flare ups and also decrease the symptons.

> please let me know

> Bazhena

> " God has given me the greatest gift the gift of

> being noticed. "

>

>

>

> gailhess

>

> Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:35 AM

> Discoid lupus

>

>

> Discoid lupus can be treated naturally? How?

> Suggestions please!

> Gail

>

> --

> Gail Hess

> www.SimplySendCards.com

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I have had Lupus for many years. The ANA testa that

they do are often inconclusive. They are also out date

tests. You only have to have 4 of the 11 clinical

signs to be diagnosed. Do your self a faver and do not

go to a rheumatologist. They are full of #@$%!!!!!

Lupus is nothing to be afraid of. You feel bad. You

can eat well and yet still you can feel like dog crap.

If your system can tolerate Celebrex it is one of the

best drugs to keep you going. I have tried every

herbal remedy that exists. Their is only one herb that

keeps the joint pain and the duration of the flair up

to a minimum. Their is only one herb that can really

help keep the flair ups to a minimum. That is

Cannabus.

If you live in a state that will give you a script for

it, then you have it made. If you want more

information concerning that you can e-mail me at:

Williamandkandyce

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> I only have some vague stuff on lupus. I felt really

> bad for 2 or 3

> yrs., kept going to the doctor, who ignored me,

> treated me like a

> hypochondriac. Sometimes I would have this puffy

> redness across my

> nose and cheeks, like an alcoholic, but I didn't

> drink much. Guess I

> never asked the dr. about that, particularly.

> Finally went to a

> different dr., for something else, and he ordered

> some blood tests.

> ANA (antinuclear antibodies) was " borderline, maybe

> lupus, and there's

> not really anything you can do about it " . Went home

> and searched the

> internet, and the symptoms matched up.

>

> Long story short, it scared me enough that I ate

> nothing but good

> whole food for a month, and took lots of digestive

> enzymes with every

> meal, and by a month and 1/2 felt great, no rash or

> anything. Well,

> that kind of diet would be good for almost

> everything. I didn't notice

> how my bowel movements were, but now I know that has

> a lot to do with

> how I feel.

>

> I relapsed into not eating all good food, but still

> take the digestive

> enzymes (almost twice what it recommends on the

> bottle), and only

> occasionally get a little bit of that redness and

> achy joints and stuff.

>

> Sure is good to know that there IS something I can

> do about it...

>

> Joy

>

> ,

> Bazhena77 wrote:

> >

> > Hi all, my sister in law and her 14 year old

> daughter both have

> lupus and we are very concerned for there health and

> well being. I was

> wondering if there is anything that can be done for

> them. is there any

> natural items that they can take to help with the

> flare ups and also

> decrease the symptons. please let me know

> > Bazhena

> > " God has given me the greatest gift the gift of

> being noticed. "

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Joy. My sister in law has a more intense case then you. She needs her

kidney removed and her daughter is having signs of the same thing. but i am glad

to know that you are keeping yourself healthy. I know that Beth is trying to do

the same thing also. But its hard and its hard becasue she has a child who also

has Lupus now.

Bazhena

" God has given me the greatest gift the gift of being noticed. "

 

 

 

jomarex

 

Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:51 AM

Re: lupus ?

 

 

I only have some vague stuff on lupus. I felt really bad for 2 or 3

yrs., kept going to the doctor, who ignored me, treated me like a

hypochondriac. Sometimes I would have this puffy redness across my

nose and cheeks, like an alcoholic, but I didn't drink much. Guess I

never asked the dr. about that, particularly. Finally went to a

different dr., for something else, and he ordered some blood tests.

ANA (antinuclear antibodies) was " borderline, maybe lupus, and there's

not really anything you can do about it " . Went home and searched the

internet, and the symptoms matched up.

 

Long story short, it scared me enough that I ate nothing but good

whole food for a month, and took lots of digestive enzymes with every

meal, and by a month and 1/2 felt great, no rash or anything. Well,

that kind of diet would be good for almost everything. I didn't notice

how my bowel movements were, but now I know that has a lot to do with

how I feel.

 

I relapsed into not eating all good food, but still take the digestive

enzymes (almost twice what it recommends on the bottle), and only

occasionally get a little bit of that redness and achy joints and stuff.

 

Sure is good to know that there IS something I can do about it...

 

Joy

 

, Bazhena77 wrote:

>

> Hi all, my sister in law and her 14 year old daughter both have

lupus and we are very concerned for there health and well being. I was

wondering if there is anything that can be done for them. is there any

natural items that they can take to help with the flare ups and also

decrease the symptons. please let me know

> Bazhena

> " God has given me the greatest gift the gift of being noticed. "

 

 

 

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Joy wrote:

 

<Long story short, it scared me enough that I ate nothing but good

whole food for a month, and took lots of digestive enzymes with every

meal, and by a month and 1/2 felt great, no rash or anything. Well,

that kind of diet would be good for almost everything. I didn't notice

how my bowel movements were, but now I know that has a lot to do with

how I feel. >

 

GREAT post! It shows us how generic measures taken

to build health take us beyond the " this for that " mentality

that allopathic medicine is based on.

It has its place, but we can do so much ourselves!

A rising tide lifts all boats, and it doesn't matter if the

boat was stuck in the front, the back or the middle.

 

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<I have tried every

herbal remedy that exists. Their is only one herb that

keeps the joint pain and the duration of the flair up

to a minimum. Their is only one herb that can really

help keep the flair ups to a minimum. That is Cannabis. >

 

Can't you just GROW some? And, did you try

Cat's Claw? (Una de Gato) Nothing works

for everyone, but according to an article at

Dr. Viana Muller's site it is an immune modulator,

and works for auto-immune diseases too.

 

Ien in the Kootenays

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http://wildhealing.net (my rainforest store)

http://wildwholefoods.net (my algae store)

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm sorry to here about your sister in law and her daughter. This can be a very

sad disease. I lost my father to it. He was a very strong healthy man all of

his life. I never remember him getting sick until the symptoms started. It

took him very fast(within months). They diagnosed him and sent him to

Rochester, MN to Mayo twice and the second time he never came home. It was sad

to watch him deteriorate and all organs shut down one by one. But your family

has a really good chance of living a better and longer life. I lost him 20

years ago. They know so much more now. One thing I remember them telling us is

that women can be put in remission alot easier than men. I wish all the best to

you and your family. We will be praying for your family.

 

Bazhena77 wrote: Hi all, my sister in law and her 14 year old

daughter both have lupus and we are very concerned for there health and well

being. I was wondering if there is anything that can be done for them. is there

any natural items that they can take to help with the flare ups and also

decrease the symptons. please let me know

Bazhena

" God has given me the greatest gift the gift of being noticed. "

 

 

 

gailhess

 

Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:35 AM

Discoid lupus

 

Discoid lupus can be treated naturally? How? Suggestions please!

Gail

 

--

Gail Hess

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My wife has had Lupus since 1980 and is still here although she is

seriouslt restricted now. When I was a student osteopath,I was told

about a medical person who was close to death with Lupus and persuaded

his team to stress him, by doing nothing. They set him up in bed with a

saline drip and observed, on his instructions.

 

After two days he was unconcious and not expected to live more than

three days, after two weeks he sat up and said I feel fine. He realised

that diet must play an important part, so he ate sensibly and gave up

alcohol; and smoking. The last I heard of him he was still going

strong and that was three years ago.

 

What a medical man can do for himself, no medical man would or could do

for the general public, but it gave me an idea.

 

I arranged for my wife to be stressed, under supervision, with fasting

and she was fasted for five weeks. She then went vegetarian, no booze

and no smoking. Her quality of life was superb for 15 years, then she

got fed up and has slowly gone downhill ever since. All the current

medical treatment has been to no avail, so now we await verification of

stemcell therapy.

 

If anybody would like to go down the same route as my wife, I would

suggest you fast as much as you can, go vegetarian, no alcohol or

smoking. If you can't face vegetarianism then pay attention to your

diet and test naturally at home for any mildly allergic responses of

your body to food or drink.

 

If I can be of any help please let me know. nasalb0ne.

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