Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I am sorting through a pile of stuff I found zipped on an ancient floppy disk. The following piece of wisdom deserves to be shared. No matter how good your health program, you may still get sick now and then, and here is why:. Nutritionist Jeanne Shaw (jshaw) wrote: I used to get sick every 3 weeks. Thanks to the algae, I don't anymore. However, I do still occasionally get " it " . My recent pathology course helped me really understand how the immune system functions (and I said duh! cause I figured I should have figured it out myself). With " common " viruses that haven't mutated, your immune system just gets rid of them and you don't get it. However, if the virus *has* mutated (and that's the key to viruses, they do it all the time), your immune system has to make new antibodies (cause the old ones don't really recognize this mutation)....that takes time...3-5 days. So, you WILL get sick while your immune system is ineffectively battling them with old antibodies (if they are recognized) and while new specific antibodies are made. SO, you may be " sick " for like a week, no matter how good your immune system. HOWEVER, people without a good immune system will be sick much longer and it will come back and they may get secondary infections. Jeanne Shaw Common Sense Nutrition Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Jean Enjoyed your email I have a question I have been having one virus after another, I was having a energetic testing with the meridian machine,using the computer, Of course they have a program,they Use I have been tested several times and it has gotten to be expensive They charge $150.00 for the test and then they make at least 2 1oz bottles of home-eopothy this is not included in the test this is at least 50.00 more plus they give you alot of supplments, You take all this and come back in 2 to 4 weeks and then you still have the virus? So my question is How Do you get to the cause of the Virus? or is it important to get to the immune system? I know this is general there are many diferent viruses, I have another question Can a virus cause a blood pressure to go high and stay high No Drug from the Dr's seem to work?????? I have used Herbs and treated self for a while Then they stopped working? I am stuck in this sea of thoughts? any help from any one thank you ? Oh Yes Rule out the heart for the cause of high blood pressure I had every test possible No Closterol and no harding of the artery no diabetic signs Blood pressure was and still is high 238/114 is this HIGH? Thank YOU Comley , " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan wrote: > > I am sorting through a pile of stuff I found > zipped on an ancient floppy disk. > The following piece of wisdom deserves to be shared. > No matter how good your health program, > you may still get sick now and then, and here is why:. > > Nutritionist Jeanne Shaw (jshaw) wrote: > > I used to get sick every 3 weeks. Thanks to the algae, I don't anymore. > However, I do still occasionally get " it " . My recent pathology course > helped me really understand how the immune system functions (and I said > duh! cause I figured I should have figured it out myself). > > With " common " viruses that haven't mutated, your immune system just > gets rid of them and you don't get it. However, if the virus *has* mutated > (and that's the key to viruses, they do it all the time), your immune system has > to make new antibodies (cause the old ones don't really recognize this > mutation)....that takes time...3-5 days. > > So, you WILL get sick while your immune system is ineffectively battling them > with old antibodies (if they are recognized) and while new specific antibodies are > made. SO, you may be " sick " for like a week, no matter how good your immune > system. > HOWEVER, people without a good immune system will be sick much longer and it > will come back and they may get secondary infections. > > Jeanne Shaw > Common Sense Nutrition > > Ien in the Kootenays > http://freegreenliving.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Hi Comely, A couple thoughts come to mind. Quantum Biofeedback also has the Meridian functions that you are speaking of in addition to being able to make energetic formularies that address your issues. Which are generally included in the fee. To remove the virus it needs to be zapped and the cause found. Like peeling an onion...you take off a layer at a time until you have found the core. If your body is in constant stress ( the virus ) blood pressure can be a symptom of something deeper. So in a way Yes it can cause that. I would find a Quantum Biofeedback Practitioner in your area, have them do the health scan, see what issues may be triggering this, zap the virus and work on the immune system and blood pressure stabilize. I'd be happy to recommend one. Jenny Kernan Quantum Biofeedback Therapist --- comley33 <comley33 wrote: > Jean Enjoyed your email I have a question I have > been having one > virus after another, I was having a energetic > testing with the > meridian machine,using the computer, Of course they > have a > program,they Use > I have been tested several times and it has gotten > to be expensive > They charge $150.00 for the test and then they make > at least 2 1oz > bottles of home-eopothy this is not included in the > test this is at > least 50.00 more plus they give you alot of > supplments, > You take all this and come back in 2 to 4 weeks and > then you still > have the virus? So my question is How Do you get to > the cause of the > Virus? or is it important to get to the immune > system? > > I know this is general there are many diferent > viruses, > I have another question Can a virus cause a blood > pressure to go high > and stay high No Drug from the Dr's seem to > work?????? > I have used Herbs and treated self for a while > Then they stopped working? I am stuck in this sea of > thoughts? > any help from any one thank you ? Oh Yes Rule out > the heart for the > cause of high blood pressure I had every test > possible No Closterol > and no harding of the artery no diabetic signs > Blood pressure was and still is high 238/114 is > this HIGH? > Thank YOU > Comley > > , " Ieneke > van Houten " > <ienvan wrote: > > > > I am sorting through a pile of stuff I found > > zipped on an ancient floppy disk. > > The following piece of wisdom deserves to be > shared. > > No matter how good your health program, > > you may still get sick now and then, and here is > why:. > > > > Nutritionist Jeanne Shaw (jshaw) wrote: > > > > I used to get sick every 3 weeks. Thanks to the > algae, I don't > anymore. > > However, I do still occasionally get " it " . My > recent pathology > course > > helped me really understand how the immune system > functions (and I > said > > duh! cause I figured I should have figured it out > myself). > > > > With " common " viruses that haven't mutated, your > immune system just > > gets rid of them and you don't get it. However, > if the virus *has* > mutated > > (and that's the key to viruses, they do it all the > time), your > immune system has > > to make new antibodies (cause the old ones don't > really recognize > this > > mutation)....that takes time...3-5 days. > > > > So, you WILL get sick while your immune system is > ineffectively > battling them > > with old antibodies (if they are recognized) and > while new specific > antibodies are > > made. SO, you may be " sick " for like a week, no > matter how good > your immune > > system. > > HOWEVER, people without a good immune system will > be sick much > longer and it > > will come back and they may get secondary > infections. > > > > Jeanne Shaw > > Common Sense Nutrition > > > > Ien in the Kootenays > > http://freegreenliving.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi Jenny This is wonderful I accept any info you have I am In Springfield Mo This sounds great to me I Have had Lots of allergies I Left Tx. for this reason all the crop sprays and mold I am 98% better from the allergies..... But the pressure is a mystery Looking forward to your info My Email is comley33 Thanks Comley , Jenny Kernan <rainysnana wrote: > > Hi Comely, > > A couple thoughts come to mind. Quantum Biofeedback > also has the Meridian functions that you are speaking > of in addition to being able to make energetic > formularies that address your issues. Which are > generally included in the fee. > > To remove the virus it needs to be zapped and the > cause found. Like peeling an onion...you take off a > layer at a time until you have found the core. If your > body is in constant stress ( the virus ) blood > pressure can be a symptom of something deeper. So in a > way Yes it can cause that. I would find a Quantum > Biofeedback Practitioner in your area, have them do > the health scan, see what issues may be triggering > this, zap the virus and work on the immune system and > blood pressure stabilize. I'd be happy to recommend > one. > > Jenny Kernan > Quantum Biofeedback Therapist > > > --- comley33 <comley33 wrote: > > > Jean Enjoyed your email I have a question I have > > been having one > > virus after another, I was having a energetic > > testing with the > > meridian machine,using the computer, Of course they > > have a > > program,they Use > > I have been tested several times and it has gotten > > to be expensive > > They charge $150.00 for the test and then they make > > at least 2 1oz > > bottles of home-eopothy this is not included in the > > test this is at > > least 50.00 more plus they give you alot of > > supplments, > > You take all this and come back in 2 to 4 weeks and > > then you still > > have the virus? So my question is How Do you get to > > the cause of the > > Virus? or is it important to get to the immune > > system? > > > > I know this is general there are many diferent > > viruses, > > I have another question Can a virus cause a blood > > pressure to go high > > and stay high No Drug from the Dr's seem to > > work?????? > > I have used Herbs and treated self for a while > > Then they stopped working? I am stuck in this sea of > > thoughts? > > any help from any one thank you ? Oh Yes Rule out > > the heart for the > > cause of high blood pressure I had every test > > possible No Closterol > > and no harding of the artery no diabetic signs > > Blood pressure was and still is high 238/114 is > > this HIGH? > > Thank YOU > > Comley > > > > , " Ieneke > > van Houten " > > <ienvan@> wrote: > > > > > > I am sorting through a pile of stuff I found > > > zipped on an ancient floppy disk. > > > The following piece of wisdom deserves to be > > shared. > > > No matter how good your health program, > > > you may still get sick now and then, and here is > > why:. > > > > > > Nutritionist Jeanne Shaw (jshaw@) wrote: > > > > > > I used to get sick every 3 weeks. Thanks to the > > algae, I don't > > anymore. > > > However, I do still occasionally get " it " . My > > recent pathology > > course > > > helped me really understand how the immune system > > functions (and I > > said > > > duh! cause I figured I should have figured it out > > myself). > > > > > > With " common " viruses that haven't mutated, your > > immune system just > > > gets rid of them and you don't get it. However, > > if the virus *has* > > mutated > > > (and that's the key to viruses, they do it all the > > time), your > > immune system has > > > to make new antibodies (cause the old ones don't > > really recognize > > this > > > mutation)....that takes time...3-5 days. > > > > > > So, you WILL get sick while your immune system is > > ineffectively > > battling them > > > with old antibodies (if they are recognized) and > > while new specific > > antibodies are > > > made. SO, you may be " sick " for like a week, no > > matter how good > > your immune > > > system. > > > HOWEVER, people without a good immune system will > > be sick much > > longer and it > > > will come back and they may get secondary > > infections. > > > > > > Jeanne Shaw > > > Common Sense Nutrition > > > > > > Ien in the Kootenays > > > http://freegreenliving.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Well, this might be a shot in the dark, but how are your kidneys??? They are SO important in regulating blood pressure. If there is a massive bacterial/viral infection going in the kidneys, that might have something to do with it. But again, it's just a shot in the dark. I hope all is well...and I would be looking for another resource for your energetic treatments if I were you. Most Reiki masters/OMDs/Qigong therapists are capable of doing as good of an eval if not better, as the human factor is taken heavily into consideration. Biofeedback and any other form of stress reducing activity is going to benefit you greatly, no matter what else is going on in your life! Less stress = lower blood pressure! But again, it is just a thought and suggestion. Take what resonates, and bless the rest. Dawn , " comley33 " <comley33 wrote: > > Jean Enjoyed your email I have a question I have been having one > virus after another, I was having a energetic testing with the > meridian machine,using the computer, Of course they have a > program,they Use > I have been tested several times and it has gotten to be expensive > They charge $150.00 for the test and then they make at least 2 1oz > bottles of home-eopothy this is not included in the test this is at > least 50.00 more plus they give you alot of supplments, > You take all this and come back in 2 to 4 weeks and then you still > have the virus? So my question is How Do you get to the cause of the > Virus? or is it important to get to the immune system? > > I know this is general there are many diferent viruses, > I have another question Can a virus cause a blood pressure to go high > and stay high No Drug from the Dr's seem to work?????? > I have used Herbs and treated self for a while > Then they stopped working? I am stuck in this sea of thoughts? > any help from any one thank you ? Oh Yes Rule out the heart for the > cause of high blood pressure I had every test possible No Closterol > and no harding of the artery no diabetic signs > Blood pressure was and still is high 238/114 is this HIGH? > Thank YOU > Comley > > , " Ieneke van Houten " > <ienvan@> wrote: > > > > I am sorting through a pile of stuff I found > > zipped on an ancient floppy disk. > > The following piece of wisdom deserves to be shared. > > No matter how good your health program, > > you may still get sick now and then, and here is why:. > > > > Nutritionist Jeanne Shaw (jshaw@) wrote: > > > > I used to get sick every 3 weeks. Thanks to the algae, I don't > anymore. > > However, I do still occasionally get " it " . My recent pathology > course > > helped me really understand how the immune system functions (and I > said > > duh! cause I figured I should have figured it out myself). > > > > With " common " viruses that haven't mutated, your immune system just > > gets rid of them and you don't get it. However, if the virus *has* > mutated > > (and that's the key to viruses, they do it all the time), your > immune system has > > to make new antibodies (cause the old ones don't really recognize > this > > mutation)....that takes time...3-5 days. > > > > So, you WILL get sick while your immune system is ineffectively > battling them > > with old antibodies (if they are recognized) and while new specific > antibodies are > > made. SO, you may be " sick " for like a week, no matter how good > your immune > > system. > > HOWEVER, people without a good immune system will be sick much > longer and it > > will come back and they may get secondary infections. > > > > Jeanne Shaw > > Common Sense Nutrition > > > > Ien in the Kootenays > > http://freegreenliving.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Hi Comley, Below are the links to finding a practitioner in your area. Quantum Biofeedback also has the capability of doing Allergy Desensitization along with the meridian work. http://theqxci.com/practitioners.php http://www.thequantumgallery.com/ Good Luck and if you have any questions I'd be happy to try to answer them. You can also check out my website www.quantumassociatesofutah.com Jenny Kernan --- comley33 <comley33 wrote: > > Hi Jenny > This is wonderful I accept any info you have > I am In Springfield Mo > This sounds great to me I Have had Lots of > allergies I Left Tx. for this reason all the > crop sprays and mold I am 98% better from the > allergies..... But the pressure is a mystery > Looking forward to your info > My Email is comley33 > Thanks Comley > , Jenny > Kernan > <rainysnana wrote: > > > > Hi Comely, > > > > A couple thoughts come to mind. Quantum > Biofeedback > > also has the Meridian functions that you are > speaking > > of in addition to being able to make energetic > > formularies that address your issues. Which are > > generally included in the fee. > > > > To remove the virus it needs to be zapped and the > > cause found. Like peeling an onion...you take off > a > > layer at a time until you have found the core. If > your > > body is in constant stress ( the virus ) blood > > pressure can be a symptom of something deeper. So > in a > > way Yes it can cause that. I would find a Quantum > > Biofeedback Practitioner in your area, have them > do > > the health scan, see what issues may be triggering > > this, zap the virus and work on the immune system > and > > blood pressure stabilize. I'd be happy to > recommend > > one. > > > > Jenny Kernan > > Quantum Biofeedback Therapist > > > > > > --- comley33 <comley33 wrote: > > > > > Jean Enjoyed your email I have a question I have > > > been having one > > > virus after another, I was having a energetic > > > testing with the > > > meridian machine,using the computer, Of course > they > > > have a > > > program,they Use > > > I have been tested several times and it has > gotten > > > to be expensive > > > They charge $150.00 for the test and then they > make > > > at least 2 1oz > > > bottles of home-eopothy this is not included in > the > > > test this is at > > > least 50.00 more plus they give you alot of > > > supplments, > > > You take all this and come back in 2 to 4 weeks > and > > > then you still > > > have the virus? So my question is How Do you get > to > > > the cause of the > > > Virus? or is it important to get to the immune > > > system? > > > > > > I know this is general there are many diferent > > > viruses, > > > I have another question Can a virus cause a > blood > > > pressure to go high > > > and stay high No Drug from the Dr's seem to > > > work?????? > > > I have used Herbs and treated self for a while > > > Then they stopped working? I am stuck in this > sea of > > > thoughts? > > > any help from any one thank you ? Oh Yes Rule > out > > > the heart for the > > > cause of high blood pressure I had every test > > > possible No Closterol > > > and no harding of the artery no diabetic signs > > > Blood pressure was and still is high 238/114 is > > > this HIGH? > > > Thank YOU > > > Comley > > > > > > , > " Ieneke > > > van Houten " > > > <ienvan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am sorting through a pile of stuff I found > > > > zipped on an ancient floppy disk. > > > > The following piece of wisdom deserves to be > > > shared. > > > > No matter how good your health program, > > > > you may still get sick now and then, and here > is > > > why:. > > > > > > > > Nutritionist Jeanne Shaw (jshaw@) wrote: > > > > > > > > I used to get sick every 3 weeks. Thanks to > the > > > algae, I don't > > > anymore. > > > > However, I do still occasionally get " it " . My > > > recent pathology > > > course > > > > helped me really understand how the immune > system > > > functions (and I > > > said > > > > duh! cause I figured I should have figured it > out > > > myself). > > > > > > > > With " common " viruses that haven't mutated, > your > > > immune system just > > > > gets rid of them and you don't get it. > However, > > > if the virus *has* > > > mutated > > > > (and that's the key to viruses, they do it all > the > > > time), your > > > immune system has > > > > to make new antibodies (cause the old ones > don't > > > really recognize > > > this > > > > mutation)....that takes time...3-5 days. > > > > > > > > So, you WILL get sick while your immune system > is > > > ineffectively > > > battling them > > > > with old antibodies (if they are recognized) > and > > > while new specific > > > antibodies are > > > > made. SO, you may be " sick " for like a week, > no > > > matter how good > > > your immune > > > > system. > > > > HOWEVER, people without a good immune system > will > > > be sick much > > > longer and it > > > > will come back and they may get secondary > > > infections. > > > > > > > > Jeanne Shaw > > > > Common Sense Nutrition > > > > > > > > Ien in the Kootenays > > > > http://freegreenliving.com > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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