Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hi everyone, my mom recently had a colonoscopy and the results are raising family concerns, especially since we just lost her sister to breast cancer 2 years ago. The letter stated that 2 small polyps were removed. These were completely benign. One of the polyps was of the variety, which is considered potentially precancerous. The Doctor recommended a repeat colonoscopy in 3 years. My anxiety has lots to do with our previous experience of the " wait and see " approach that the doctors took with my aunt's cancer. Therefore, I wanted to know what other things we should do given the results. Is this real serious or normal results? Should we wait 3 years or be doing something right now and if so, what? The doctor did not do any type of follow up consultation and discuss diet with my mom or any life style changes, which is frustrating. However, she is a very health conscious person, walks 3 miles everyday, doesn't smoke or drink, takes vitamins, and eats lots of vegetables and fruits. I also did some research on colon cancer and found calcium, Folate, Vitamin C, E, B6, D, Onions, curry, olive oil and grape seed are beneficial in decreasing cancerous polyps. But I really don't know where to begin or what quantity of everything to start with. It is very overwhelming and I really want to make sure that we are placing her health in our own hands and doing everything right from the start, verses leaving it all up to one doctors opinion. Thanks for any help, we appreciate it dearly! Betheney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Tell your mother not to worry. Polyps are normal at her age. Pre cancerous is the doctors way of making sure you come back in 3 years. I read a study (sorry, don't have the information anymore) that stated they followed a group of people for 20 years that had polyps. In the 20 years the people that had them removed and then waited 10 years before having another test showed the same amount of new polyps that the other group had (given age and health problems) when they went in every 3 years. The doctor's newsletter that I read this in said that most doctors use to routinely say come back in 3 years (originally it was every 5 years but then they switched to 3 years), but that now, because of the money to be made on these tests many doctors are having their patients come in every year!!! So the newsletter article said that every 10 years is fine for a checkup of the colon. My brother had gone for a test and had 3 polyps removed, went back 3 years later (as the doctor had recommended) and had one removed. He said the doctor told him well, the bad news is that you had one precancerous polyp but the good news is that you only had one instead of 3 like before " . And recommended him to come back in one year!! I sent my brother the article and he read it and said that he would not keep the one year appt, switching instead to the 10 year checkup. So, if it will make your mom feel better, she can go back in 3 years or even wait till 5 years. It was good that her doctor wasn't already recommending the yearly exam, which is very unnecessary--just a money maker for the doctor. But with her good physical health and health awareness, she shouldn t worry at all. Colon cancer comes from not having regular bowel movements so she should just be sure to go at least once a day. Twice a day is better Lots of water and fiber will assure her of good colon health. Also, she needs to make sure she continues to have good digestion, which helps the colon eliminate properly. Samala, Renee ---- Hi everyone, my mom recently had a colonoscopy and the results are Raising family concerns, especially since we just lost her sister to Breast cancer 2 years ago. The letter stated that 2 small polyps Were removed. These were completely benign. One of the polyps was Of the variety, which is considered potentially precancerous. The Doctor recommended a repeat colonoscopy in 3 years. My anxiety has Lots to do with our previous experience of the " wait and see " Approach that the doctors took with my aunt's cancer. Therefore, I Wanted to know what other things we should do given the results. Is This real serious or normal results? Should we wait 3 years or be Doing something right now and if so, what? The doctor did not do any Type of follow up consultation and discuss diet with my mom or any Life style changes, which is frustrating. However, she is a very Health conscious person, walks 3 miles everyday, doesn't smoke or Drink, takes vitamins, and eats lots of vegetables and fruits. I Also did some research on colon cancer and found calcium, Folate, Vitamin C, E, B6, D, Onions, curry, olive oil and grape seed are Beneficial in decreasing cancerous polyps. But I really don't know Where to begin or what quantity of everything to start with. It is Very overwhelming and I really want to make sure that we are placing Her health in our own hands and doing everything right from the Start, verses leaving it all up to one doctors opinion. Thanks for Any help, we appreciate it dearly! Betheney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 I don't know anything at all particularly about polyps, but I kept getting precancerous cells on scars. Scary. Uh-oh, I think this is going to turn into a long rant... doctors, and why I've seen enough of them. I started drinking aloe vera juice every day, and since then, haven't seen any precancerous cells. May or may not have anything to do with it, but my mother had a melanoma (or whatever it is -- cancerous) cut off her nose surgically, it came back, and she would dab a drop of aloe on it a couple times a day. It went away. I had a really ugly flat brown spot develop on my nose, put fresh aloe on it for a few days, and it went away. Also, I started to do more visualization, meditation, like any way I could think of to " look " inside my body, check on any things going haywire, clear them out, just try to release any " knots " or anything (seems like I'm clearing out some emotional stuff, too). I was a hypochondriac there for awhile, running to the dr. every time something seemed like it might be going awry. Maybe the turning point was when I had what may have been migraine symptom, and the dr. was extremely sarcastic and dismissive. Like it couldn't POSSIBLY have been anything real, like cancer -- not in ME. It didn't matter that I had just recently had two immediate family members die of cancer. Asthma runs in my family; we tend to get it around 30 years of age. I staved it off 'til about 40, undoubtedly by eating better food. Then, stupidly, I started giving in to the delicious-greasy-hamburger urges, and whoop-- there it is. Asthma. This same dr. that I went to waaay too many times totally ignored what I said about sometimes having to struggle hard for breath. After all, I was sitting still in his office and not having any problem at that moment. Went to another doctor (after answering their question about the name of another dr. I had seen about this), and this dr. actually snickered and said " it won't hurt anything " if I use the Albuterol inhaler when I need it. No tests of any kind. After trying all kinds of natural remedies, none of which seemed to do any good at all, I hit upon magnesium. Took several pills of it, during a particularly bad struggle for breath, and within the hour, I was hyperventilating, it was so easy to breathe. Works every time. I was pissed about these drs. ignoring me, but it finally occurred to me that I just did not need to play their game any more. No reason for me to have an official diagnosis of asthma or anything else. The doctors weren't doing me any good at all (except the one that actually noticed that I had a lupus mask, which let me know what to research and fix), and there are plenty of stories of people, for example, whose bellies suddenly started getting really big, they weren't pregnant, dr. told them they were a hypochondriac, and a few months later, they died of now-inoperable ovarian cancer... (but before they died, their insurance company paid many thousands of $$$$ for the " heroic " attempts to save their life) I have to be responsible for my own health. The vast majority of the doctors now are just pill-pushers, disseminating " information " and " cures " directly from the pharmaceutical mega-corporations, and they are far too busy to bother with what's really going on with people. Fortunately (heh -- not always...) for me, I have always been overly attuned to my body; now I'm learning how to listen accurately. I will put more faith in my knowledge of my body than in uncaring doctors. Seem to have two choices: put my (and my child's) health and well-being totally in the medical industry's hands, and just wait patiently for things to go wrong-enough that they can sweep in with their surgeries and pills, and take all my money, and then when I run out of money, they just let me rot, or, take responsibility for everything that goes on in my body, and find good and healthful ways to support it. Maybe occasionally go to a doctor to see if they can figure out something that I can't, then I take it from there. And when the drs. told your mom to just wait, that reminded me of the first time I started thinking there was something wrong in this medical racket. At 30, I was having discomfort around the stomach area, so went to the dr. He did a little push-and-release test, and went " hmmm! " when it caused a lot of pain. He asked if I'd ever had gallbladder problems (no), then said if it gets really bad, to go to the emergency room, then he left. I called later, asked if he thought I was starting to have gallbladder problems. " I didn't say that!! " and pretty much hung up on me. What the hell?! I'm not allowed to know what's going on in my body?! Why would he say that? But I think I figured it out. You have all these aches and pains, you go to the dr. The doctor pretty much ignores them, makes you feel like a hypochondriac. You worry. " I know there's something wrong. " So you go to the dr. again when something else comes up. You never get answers, but you keep worrying, and you get obsessed, because you know something's wrong, but the dr. won't tell you anything at all. So you make more appointments, give them more of your money... Then, when things finally progress to the correct point -- voila, " we can cure you, with a $100,000 surgery and hospital stay " . I thought it was just me until I started talking to other people about it. Then I finally decided enough was enough. The medical industry is not doing me any good at all. here's positive thoughts for your mother Joy , " bairdy23 " <bairdy23 wrote: > > Hi everyone, my mom recently had a colonoscopy and the results are > raising family concerns, especially since we just lost her sister to > breast cancer 2 years ago. The letter stated that 2 small polyps > were removed. These were completely benign. One of the polyps was > of the variety, which is considered potentially precancerous. The > Doctor recommended a repeat colonoscopy in 3 years. My anxiety has > lots to do with our previous experience of the " wait and see " > approach that the doctors took with my aunt's cancer. Therefore, I > wanted to know what other things we should do given the results. Is > this real serious or normal results? Should we wait 3 years or be > doing something right now and if so, what? The doctor did not do any > type of follow up consultation and discuss diet with my mom or any > life style changes, which is frustrating. However, she is a very > health conscious person, walks 3 miles everyday, doesn't smoke or > drink, takes vitamins, and eats lots of vegetables and fruits. I > also did some research on colon cancer and found calcium, Folate, > Vitamin C, E, B6, D, Onions, curry, olive oil and grape seed are > beneficial in decreasing cancerous polyps. But I really don't know > where to begin or what quantity of everything to start with. It is > very overwhelming and I really want to make sure that we are placing > her health in our own hands and doing everything right from the > start, verses leaving it all up to one doctors opinion. Thanks for > any help, we appreciate it dearly! > Betheney > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Dear Bethney, You are on the right track, Our diet is the main problem. Cut out all the sugar, soda and sugar supplements. No processed meats, no processed anything. Read the diet guidelines at www.cidpusa.org Eat more wholefoods, molasses is place of sugar, whole wheat , whole brown rice. (No vitamin supplements) No supplements. Lots of vegetables AND FRUITS RAW IF POSSIABLE. DRINK GREEN TEA 4-5 TIMES A DAY. No MSG FOODS FROM THE CHAIN STRORE FRONTS. MSG is in everything, ice cream to lipstick. Read the lables. No water in plastic bottles , its the plastic that causes these growths. No non sticky cooking pans which are laced with cancer causing PTFE. IKHAN www.cidpusa.org , " bairdy23 " <bairdy23 wrote: > > Hi everyone, my mom recently had a colonoscopy and the results are > raising family concerns, especially since we just lost her sister to > breast cancer 2 years ago. The letter stated that 2 small polyps > were removed. These were completely benign. One of the polyps was > of the variety, which is considered potentially precancerous. The > Doctor recommended a repeat colonoscopy in 3 years. My anxiety has > lots to do with our previous experience of the " wait and see " > approach that the doctors took with my aunt's cancer. Therefore, I > wanted to know what other things we should do given the results. Is > this real serious or normal results? Should we wait 3 years or be > doing something right now and if so, what? The doctor did not do any > type of follow up consultation and discuss diet with my mom or any > life style changes, which is frustrating. However, she is a very > health conscious person, walks 3 miles everyday, doesn't smoke or > drink, takes vitamins, and eats lots of vegetables and fruits. I > also did some research on colon cancer and found calcium, Folate, > Vitamin C, E, B6, D, Onions, curry, olive oil and grape seed are > beneficial in decreasing cancerous polyps. But I really don't know > where to begin or what quantity of everything to start with. It is > very overwhelming and I really want to make sure that we are placing > her health in our own hands and doing everything right from the > start, verses leaving it all up to one doctors opinion. Thanks for > any help, we appreciate it dearly! > Betheney > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2007 Report Share Posted March 21, 2007 Betheney, I have a friend that is in the same situation as your mom, her dad past away from it, Dr's' have found the same type of polyps that her dad had, She has one done every 3 years also, Hope this helps a little... the best to you and your mom. Marti ______________________________\ ____ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. http://videogames./platform?platform=120121 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 you got it, Joy. You should be happy that you have figured it out, Think how many people never will. Dr. Andrew Weil said " People that live the longest don't go to Doctors. " I say Amen. peace, thyme ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 Betheney writes: my mom recently had a colonoscopy (snip) The letter stated that 2 small polyps Were removed. These were completely benign. One of the polyps was Of the variety, which is considered potentially precancerous Betheney - Your mother did the right thing to get the polyps removed. The 'potentially pre-cancerous' one would be what they cam 'secretary'. Having removed the polyps she should be good for about 5 yrs before contemplating another colonoscopy. Then, only have it done IF she is experiencing any gut/bowel problems (like diarrhoea etc and stronger than usual reactions to various foods.) Your mother will know, her body will tell her. Address diet. Should your mother find that she is having problems bowel wise, or that certain food upset her, then she must ID those foods. Onions are a known for upsetting the colon - but, she 'might' be OK with onions. Other foods that 'can' upset are seeds, some types of nuts, too much fibre, too many veggies, citrus fruits, strawberries (all those tiny seeds). Diet will be a matter of try it and see how she goes. Moment she finds a reaction, cut down, try again, if the reaction continues, cut it out. Steer clear of ALL fried foods and oily foods and greasy foods. Grill, roast, raw or juice foods. White bread will bung up the gut, stick to brown organic - not the dyed flour kind!! Indian breads, like chappatti are good, made with brown flour and excellent. Cakes and muffins and that, leave out. Pasta, try, but don't be surprised if the gut reacts - or she gets colic. Any foods that give colic (potatoes do) then cut em down or cut em out.. Been there, had it done, have the gut reactive problems etc etc. You mother will just have to try out what suits 'her' - remember, everyone is different. But the no-nos are pretty much a given. Stay well clear of all those processed foods. NO cokes, sodas and such. FULL of sweeteners which will upset the gut! Try and eat as organically as possible, including meats and poultry (yes, this can be diff.) Now, as for meds. Steer clear of ALL NSAIDS - known to upset the gut: Ibubrophen etc. Also, certain antibiotics are renowned for sending one to the heave-ho (not funny). In the main, Clarithromycin is tolerated whereas Erethromycin is a gut wringer - don't use Ere! Check info out on the internet, check with Forum groups, check out herbal websites, check out ALL meds for contraindications *before taking... Be firm (but polite) with yr doctor/s - but remember, most don't know much and they are pretty much all in the thrall of the pharma boys!! Hope this brief overview is helpful. Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 My grandmother was in her eighties (I am 70) and in those days the doctors used to make house calls. Gran had a horror of being cut after she died, so the doctor used to come once a month so that he could issue a death certificate and she would not have an autopsy. One day he came to see her and wanted to prescribe some medication for her. He asked her if she would take it. Her reply - " NO, I want to die a natural death. " Margi - RSchl44964 Thursday, March 22, 2007 2:06 AM Re: colonoscopy showed precancerous polyp...please help you got it, Joy. You should be happy that you have figured it out, Think how many people never will. Dr. Andrew Weil said " People that live the longest don't go to Doctors. " I say Amen. peace, thyme ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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