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> What are the symptoms of spleen deficiency and what

> are the common herbs that can treat this syndrome??

 

Bloating, gas, loose stools.

Formula: Si Jun Zi Tang for Spleen Qi deficiency.

Shen Ling Bai Zhu San for watery diarrhea.

Liu Jun Zi Tang for bloating, gurgling, fatigue, etc...

 

Easy brusing.

Formula: Gui Pi Tang

 

Prolapsed organs. (organs sinking down out of their normal positions).

Formula: Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang

 

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> Does anyone have any views or comments on the

> worldwide Pneumonia scare today?

 

Bio-weapon?

 

 

>

> Chinese medicine view and to how these people may have

> succumbed to this normally mild disease?

 

Bio-weapon?

 

 

>

> Cuold it be due to the abuse of antibiotics in

> conventional western medicine?

 

If not bio-weapon, next best explanation,IMO.

 

Khepri

 

 

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> Regards,

> jerry

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For the TCM students on the list, this is a good post to print out

and use as a quick, handy reference. Thanks, Al.

 

Victoria

 

> > What are the symptoms of spleen deficiency and what

> > are the common herbs that can treat this syndrome??

>

> Bloating, gas, loose stools.

> Formula: Si Jun Zi Tang for Spleen Qi deficiency.

> Shen Ling Bai Zhu San for watery diarrhea.

> Liu Jun Zi Tang for bloating, gurgling, fatigue, etc...

>

> Easy brusing.

> Formula: Gui Pi Tang

>

> Prolapsed organs. (organs sinking down out of their normal

positions).

> Formula: Bu Zhong Yi Qi Tang

>

> --

> Al Stone L.Ac.

> <AlStone@B...>

> http://www.BeyondWellBeing.com

>

> Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

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I'm guessing you're referring to the one that's sweeping through the south of

China at the moment (and cropping up elsewhere I've been told).

Well the official line here (I'm doing a TCM internship here in China) is that

everything is " under control " . The local media (at least the English versions)

haven't had too much about it yet.

However I'd definately say its a strain of multiple antibiotic resistant

pneumonia that's doing the rounds. We could analyse it from a TCM point of view

- but sometimes we do have to take notice of the germ theory of infection. It

might have come to be seen as a relatively mild disease - but that is as much to

it being easily controlled by antibiotic therapy (in cases where it is

warranted) as to indiviual levels of antipathogenic factors.

As to the current situation coming about - well I'd definately have to say its

due to: 1) the current strain being particularly virulent, combined with....

2) abuse of antibiotics. And from what I (and my fellow classmates) have

observed - plenty of it is happening here in the TCM hospitals.

Pediatric Gan Mao? Use Amoxicillin. Seems to be the number one treatment in the

Pediatric department here.

I've heard rumours that this strain is also vancomycin resistant. Does anyone

know whether this is the case?

Anyhow, as yet I haven't heard of any cases being admitted to the TCM hospital.

However I'll keep you posted if there are any, along with what treatments are

being used in the hospital here to deal with it.

If its as resistant as I've heard it is, then using TCM herbal formulae might be

the only treatment that is available.

 

Cheers,

Jay.

gerard dennis <jerryacu wrote:

Does anyone have any views or comments on the

worldwide Pneumonia scare today?

 

Chinese medicine view and to how these people may have

succumbed to this normally mild disease?

 

Cuold it be due to the abuse of antibiotics in

conventional western medicine?

 

Regards,

jerry

 

 

 

 

 

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Our systems are being weakened by bad food, exposure to petrochemicals, overuse

of prescription drugs(including antibiotics). We need to adjust our priorities

to compensate. All the talk of a big war and it will probabaly be a small

microorganism that does it. The Chinese recent outbreak could be a form of

sabotage. We spent too much on our think tanks and biolabs. Some of it may have

gotten into the wrong hands due to a lack of proper monitoring. If I was to

treat the recent Chinese scare I would start with the envelope of the heart and

conception vessel. If it is a manufactured epidemic, that is a good start.

jay mackley <jaymackley wrote:

I'm guessing you're referring to the one that's sweeping through the south of

China at the moment (and cropping up elsewhere I've been told).

Well the official line here (I'm doing a TCM internship here in China) is that

everything is " under control " . The local media (at least the English versions)

haven't had too much about it yet.

However I'd definately say its a strain of multiple antibiotic resistant

pneumonia that's doing the rounds. We could analyse it from a TCM point of view

- but sometimes we do have to take notice of the germ theory of infection. It

might have come to be seen as a relatively mild disease - but that is as much to

it being easily controlled by antibiotic therapy (in cases where it is

warranted) as to indiviual levels of antipathogenic factors.

As to the current situation coming about - well I'd definately have to say its

due to: 1) the current strain being particularly virulent, combined with....

2) abuse of antibiotics. And from what I (and my fellow classmates) have

observed - plenty of it is happening here in the TCM hospitals.

Pediatric Gan Mao? Use Amoxicillin. Seems to be the number one treatment in the

Pediatric department here.

I've heard rumours that this strain is also vancomycin resistant. Does anyone

know whether this is the case?

Anyhow, as yet I haven't heard of any cases being admitted to the TCM hospital.

However I'll keep you posted if there are any, along with what treatments are

being used in the hospital here to deal with it.

If its as resistant as I've heard it is, then using TCM herbal formulae might be

the only treatment that is available.

 

Cheers,

Jay.

gerard dennis <jerryacu wrote:

Does anyone have any views or comments on the

worldwide Pneumonia scare today?

 

Chinese medicine view and to how these people may have

succumbed to this normally mild disease?

 

Cuold it be due to the abuse of antibiotics in

conventional western medicine?

 

Regards,

jerry

 

 

 

 

 

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> jay mackley <jaymackley wrote:

> Anyhow, as yet I haven't heard of any cases being

> admitted to the TCM hospital. However I'll keep you

> posted if there are any, along with what treatments

> are being used in the hospital here to deal with it.

> If its as resistant as I've heard it is, then using

> TCM herbal formulae might be the only treatment that

> is available.

 

Hi Jay and everyone. I can't give definites re

diagnosis, but I believe it fits well with a heavy

cold attack. Prevention is fairly dimple, and TCM

treatment shouldbe successful for most cases.

Deteriorated cases always having several exacerbating

factors, such as a previously, and heavily,

compromised " immune system " .

I would recommend GanMaoLing, a common patent

formula. Apparently I made a lucky first choice

because one of my teachers recommended it too. He has

been keeping up with the situation in China, and while

TCM hospitals have given this disease a new name, it

still is a variation on a (very old) theme. There are

several formulas being recommended (5? 6?), depending

on pattern diff., but they are all similar to

GanMaoLing.

 

Here is a listing of ingredients off the bottle:

lonicera

evodia lepta

chrysanthemum

ilex asprella

vitex negundo

rx isatidis

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thamks for the info - its the first concrete information we've had to date.

I'll try to hunt down answers to the questions you're after. I'm on an internal

medicine rotation in about a fortnight, so that might be a good time to get

information on any cases that are presenting. I'll also you let you know what

(if anything) is being used at this end. I suspect that at the moment most of

the cases are being admitted to Western Medince hospitals in the first instance.

 

Regards,

 

Jay.

SacredQi888 wrote:If someone is admitted could you please note the

emotional and mental

symptoms of when the disease comes on and when it progresses are there

changes in the emotions and mentals. Also the concomitants like how the fever

comes on perspiration and chills.

 

.. Also any other *distinctive* symptoms that were related

purely to this state, like food preferences and aversions, changes in sleep

pattern, changes in subjective and objective temperature, plus the

*qualities* attached to any of the symptoms -- eg. what sort of rash and

where, how the fever manifests itself, the type of pain experienced with any

symptom, whether symptoms are constant or variable, times when symptoms are

better or worse, anything that makes symptoms better or worse, etc. These

details are what distinguish one remedy state from another.

 

Maybe if you ask around someone can already give you those symptoms.

Here's some direct pt comments I know of so far:.....

 

 

 

 

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Does anyone speculate why there is so much contageous pneumonia going

around? chem trails??? I am never sick-I eat well, sleep, exercise,

and I cannot shake this horrible cough. I went to a healer that does

energy work and he said it was allergies, but my friend I have been

hanging out with over the past few weeks was just diagnosed with

pneumonia. any ideas or solutions on what might work?

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I have also noticed a rise in pneumonia reported among acquaintances and

friends. It used to be very rare, and now all of a sudden there seems to be a

lot of cases during flu season. Thanks for asking the question. Perhaps if

enough people ask, an answer will be found.

 

Renae

 

 

 

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---yes i am looking into chem trails too

 

if its viral look into the work of bob beck and try his protocol

we are just build ing some of his machines

colloidal silver

magnetic pulsar

blood cleaning

see this vid

copy ands paste this address

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2095786730805958061 & q=bob+beck

 

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In , " BB " <bbes10 wrote:

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> Does anyone speculate why there is so much contageous pneumonia going

> around? chem trails??? I am never sick-I eat well, sleep, exercise,

> and I cannot shake this horrible cough. I went to a healer that does

> energy work and he said it was allergies, but my friend I have been

> hanging out with over the past few weeks was just diagnosed with

> pneumonia. any ideas or solutions on what might work?

>

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GO to the health food store and ask for Tissue salts

This is Homeopathic ( KALI SULPH.6x ) I would get the

500 tablets " Brand name Hylands Homeopathic

It will tell you how to take On the bottle $ 10.00 or less

In the begining take 5 tablets under the toung every 15 min.

untill you have taken several doses then wait a hour then

take every hour You will stop the coughing You will feel the

difference the first day but take for several days after the

cough stops

 

I have a grand daughter that has Asthma and this will stop the

strange cough when she has asthma she is ten she now looks for

The tiny pills and takes them her self

This will not interfear with any thing else your taking this is a

mircale tiny tablet

 

 

, " pjb12345uk " <pho

wrote:

>

> ---yes i am looking into chem trails too

>

> if its viral look into the work of bob beck and try his protocol

> we are just build ing some of his machines

> colloidal silver

> magnetic pulsar

> blood cleaning

> see this vid

> copy ands paste this address

> http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?

docid=2095786730805958061 & q=bob+beck

>

> phill

> In , " BB " <bbes10@> wrote:

> >

> > Does anyone speculate why there is so much contageous pneumonia

going

> > around? chem trails??? I am never sick-I eat well, sleep,

exercise,

> > and I cannot shake this horrible cough. I went to a healer that

does

> > energy work and he said it was allergies, but my friend I have

been

> > hanging out with over the past few weeks was just diagnosed with

> > pneumonia. any ideas or solutions on what might work?

> >

>

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