New to group.........Question about the FOOT DETOX MACHINE.

March 19, 2007

Hello Everyone...

I am new to this site and I have a question about the

AQUA CHI or any IONIC FOOT DETOX MACHINE that is supposed to help

remove toxins from the body through the feet.

I've heard a lot of great things about the ionic foot detox machine,

but I have not been able to find much information about this

alternative therapy device on the interent. I've visted a few

company websites that make the ionic detox machines (for example, Q2

and AQUA CHI), but neither company has responded to my questions.

I have several questions listed below. Any information would be very

helpful to me and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Some of the questions I have are:

-Who was the " first " to invent the foot detox machine or what is the

history of this machine?

-What qualifications does one need to have, if they want to start a

business to provide only foot detox treatments?

-If a person were to start a business just giving these therapeutic

treatments, where would one go for " formal " or " certified " training?

-Are there any other groups or websites that help educate the public

about this therapy?

-Where can I find books or dvds specifically on ionic detoxification?

Where can I go to research more info about this topic?

Again, any information would be helpful and greatly appreaciated.

Thank you kindly.

Have a great week.

Ree

March 19, 2007

Foot detox scam By Palmdoc

A patient of mine recently brought a leaflet advertising “foot

detoxifcation” asking me if it will help her illness.

The brochure claims the device will “detoxify” your body by immersing your feet

in it. The brochure is even so bold as to deny that they are “not linked with

the recent media reports on foot spa services being investigated by the

Ministry” and even has pictures of two alleged medical doctors in the brochure

to claim “product genuity and reliability”

They even have a website which denies their product is a scam. However, while

one section of the website states that “As a company we do not claim that we can

cure disease by soaking the feet in water”, another section of the website has

the usual “testimonials” of people with various “disorders” like migraine (see

pic), kulit gatal-gatal and even “severe gout” allegedly obtaining benefit from

its use.

People, a scam is a scam is a scam. Surely you cannot be so gullible to believe

that by soaking your feet in this contraption your body will be “detoxified”?

The public may be swayed by the water “miraculously” turning brown or black in

colour.

Someone has offered a simple explanation on How Foot Detox Works:

The scam vendors advertised these devices as aqua chi machine, bio electrical

biofeedback machine, foot spa, energy spa, super detox foot bath . They also

advertise the scam as a service such as bio-detox, aqua detox, aqua spa, emerald

detox, platinum detox.

In essence, the foot bath contains a low voltage/amperage AC to DC transformer

attached to ferrous electrodes.

The process is basically electrolysis of water, a typical high school

experiment, with a twist.

The brown “toxins” you see is from the rust generated by the corrosion of the

iron electrodes. The different variations in color can be accounted by varying

amount of salt added to the water and variations in the compositions of the

electrodes.

It’s a simple chemical reaction folks. Don’t be gullible and fall for this BS!

Addendum 9/11/5: (Link pointed out by Jimmy Chew)

The Aqua Detox Scam in Devicewatch: further explanation of how it works:

Many skeptics suspected that the color change produced by the Aqua Detox was

caused by rust (oxidized iron), rather than toxins. Ben Goldacre, who writes the

“bad science” column for Guardian Unlimited (an online British newspaper),

investigated by using a car battery to send current through two metal nails that

he placed into a bowl of salt water. The water turned brown and developed some

sludge on top. Then he sent a colleague to get “detoxed” and collect

before-and-after water samples. Laboratory testing showed that in both cases,

the change of water color was due to greatly increased iron content [7]. Thus it

appears that (a) the color change is due mainly to the precipitation of rust

created by corrosion of the electrodes, and (b) the water would change color

regardless of whether or not a foot was placed in it.

reeinmaryland <reeamor wrote:

Hello Everyone...

I am new to this site and I have a question about the

AQUA CHI or any IONIC FOOT DETOX MACHINE that is supposed to help

remove toxins from the body through the feet.

I've heard a lot of great things about the ionic foot detox machine,

but I have not been able to find much information about this

alternative therapy device on the interent. I've visted a few

company websites that make the ionic detox machines (for example, Q2

and AQUA CHI), but neither company has responded to my questions.

I have several questions listed below. Any information would be very

helpful to me and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Some of the questions I have are:

-Who was the " first " to invent the foot detox machine or what is the

history of this machine?

-What qualifications does one need to have, if they want to start a

business to provide only foot detox treatments?

-If a person were to start a business just giving these therapeutic

treatments, where would one go for " formal " or " certified " training?

-Are there any other groups or websites that help educate the public

about this therapy?

-Where can I find books or dvds specifically on ionic detoxification?

Where can I go to research more info about this topic?

Again, any information would be helpful and greatly appreaciated.

Thank you kindly.

Have a great week.

Ree

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March 19, 2007

, " reeinmaryland "

<reeamor wrote:

>

> Hello Everyone...

>

> I am new to this site and I have a question about the

> AQUA CHI or any IONIC FOOT DETOX MACHINE that is supposed to help

> remove toxins from the body through the feet.

>

> I've heard a lot of great things about the ionic foot detox

machine,

> but I have not been able to find much information about this

> alternative therapy device on the interent. I've visted a few

> company websites that make the ionic detox machines (for example,

Q2

> and AQUA CHI), but neither company has responded to my questions.

>

> I have several questions listed below. Any information would be

very

> helpful to me and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

>

> Some of the questions I have are:

>

> -Who was the " first " to invent the foot detox machine or what is

the

> history of this machine?

>

> -What qualifications does one need to have, if they want to start

a

> business to provide only foot detox treatments?

>

> -If a person were to start a business just giving these

therapeutic

> treatments, where would one go for " formal " or " certified "

training?

>

> -Are there any other groups or websites that help educate the

public

> about this therapy?

>

> -Where can I find books or dvds specifically on ionic

detoxification?

> Where can I go to research more info about this topic?

>

> Again, any information would be helpful and greatly appreaciated.

> Thank you kindly.

>

> Have a great week.

> Ree

>

March 19, 2007

There is a lot of controversy on detox foot baths. I

would research other brands while you're looking. I

haven't heard a thing on either one of these. There

are devices out there that just do not work. I believe

some do. Many make you think they are working because

of the debris left behind and the changing in the

water color. This is caused by the copper electrodes

used.

I do footbath detox using my SCIO device, point probes

and Magnetic Detox clay in either a full bath or foot

bath.

Jenny Kernan

Quantum Biofeedback Therapist

--- asd_20103537 <asd_20103537 wrote:

> ,

> " reeinmaryland "

> <reeamor wrote:

> >

> > Hello Everyone...

> >

> > I am new to this site and I have a

> question about the

> > AQUA CHI or any IONIC FOOT DETOX MACHINE that is

> supposed to help

> > remove toxins from the body through the feet.

> >

> > I've heard a lot of great things about the ionic

> foot detox

> machine,

> > but I have not been able to find much information

> about this

> > alternative therapy device on the interent. I've

> visted a few

> > company websites that make the ionic detox

> machines (for example,

> Q2

> > and AQUA CHI), but neither company has responded

> to my questions.

> >

> > I have several questions listed below. Any

> information would be

> very

> > helpful to me and highly appreciated. Thanks in

> advance.

> >

> > Some of the questions I have are:

> >

> > -Who was the " first " to invent the foot detox

> machine or what is

> the

> > history of this machine?

> >

> > -What qualifications does one need to have, if

> they want to start

> a

> > business to provide only foot detox treatments?

> >

> > -If a person were to start a business just giving

> these

> therapeutic

> > treatments, where would one go for " formal " or

> " certified "

> training?

> >

> > -Are there any other groups or websites that help

> educate the

> public

> > about this therapy?

> >

> > -Where can I find books or dvds specifically on

> ionic

> detoxification?

> > Where can I go to research more info about this

> topic?

> >

> > Again, any information would be helpful and

> greatly appreaciated.

> > Thank you kindly.

> >

> > Have a great week.

> > Ree

> >

>

March 20, 2007

Hi Ree,

I have the Aqua Chi model and have seen very good results with it. My

friend had one and out of all the different therapies she did to get

rid of her fibromyalgia and CF after a severe accident that also left

her with some brain damage she credited the footbath as helping the

most. She literally spent five years trying every therapy and

supplement she heard might work. I tried a footbath at her place and

that evening I was breathing much clearer. I wasn't even aware that I

had a breathing problem!

I ordered one myself and after about 5 sessions, a patch of fungal

skin on my leg that didn't respond to anything simply vanished. My

Mom's fibromyalgia went away after about 25 treatments. We haven't had

results with migraines though; liquid zeolite worked for that,

indicating to me that the brain isn't cleansed with the footbath.

The guy who repairs and I think manufactures the Aqua Chi in the US

says they have done studies with this in China. Many illnesses caught

in the early stages can be reversed. He will be the first to tell you

that it is not a cure for anything. It's really the charging of the

cells with energy that makes this so unique. When the cells function

at a higher level, they will detoxify.

Interestingly, someone at another group posted that she was at a

health fair with her naturopath and they each did a session in the

Aqua Chi. Her naturopath had WORMS! They came out in the bath water.

I have never seen this and it's only the second time I've even heard

of it happening. Her water on the other hand was full of sludge but

not wormy.

I've noticed that when people do a detox program, the water is

dirtier. My friend noticed that when her clients all started taking

Reishi mushroom that their water was like sludge so it will enhance

upon any other detox program. People with fibro, arthritis, etc tend

to have much slimier and larger bubbles indicating that the lymph is

being cleansed and mucous is being removed. A healthy person doesn't

have this.

I recommend a minimum of three every other day if possible. Some

people will not experience the full benefits the first time. My

husband who used to be a lathe operator (making metal pieces for

diamond bits). He'd come home from work and this metallic dust would

be all over his clothes. 7 years later after not working there, he

started with the footbaths. His first one there was practically

nothing, just the typical orangey/browny stuff that will be formed

with or without feet. The second one was pitch black, oily and reeked

of the exact same smell that used to be on his clothes.

Smokers and ex-smokers will have brown glue around their ankles. An

ex-smoker will have this only once or twice. A current smoker will

have this every time.

As you can see the article that was posted about these being a scam is

an outright lie. You will find articles in this style written online

for just about every product that works. They are almost like carbon

copies with just the names and products changed. When these people

are corrected, they never remove what they've said and they never

publish an apology. Thankfully at least the Quackbuster guy is now

being " busted " himself. These people should just get a life instead

of interfering in other peoples' lives.

You don't need any special training for this. So long as the person

isn't pregnant, doesn't have epilepsy or have electronic implants,

they can do the footbaths. The company also says blood thinners and

prescription meds to be on the safe side but I have had not adverse

effects with anyone on prescriptions at all. I do a full wellness

consultation for clients as part of the deal. Many practitioners just

hook them up and leave them to relax for the half hour or 40 minutes.

If you want to contact me off group, I can pass on some info regarding

where I bought mine (and wouldn't again!) and where I'd recommend to

get one now (I buy my parts from there). You can see my waiver, a few

photos, etc.

Sharon

, " reeinmaryland "

<reeamor wrote:

>

> Hello Everyone...

>

> I am new to this site and I have a question about the

> AQUA CHI or any IONIC FOOT DETOX MACHINE that is supposed to help

> remove toxins from the body through the feet.

>

> I've heard a lot of great things about the ionic foot detox machine,

> but I have not been able to find much information about this

> alternative therapy device on the interent. I've visted a few

> company websites that make the ionic detox machines (for example, Q2

> and AQUA CHI), but neither company has responded to my questions.

>

> I have several questions listed below. Any information would be very

> helpful to me and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

>

> Some of the questions I have are:

>

> -Who was the " first " to invent the foot detox machine or what is the

> history of this machine?

>

> -What qualifications does one need to have, if they want to start a

> business to provide only foot detox treatments?

>

> -If a person were to start a business just giving these therapeutic

> treatments, where would one go for " formal " or " certified " training?

>

> -Are there any other groups or websites that help educate the public

> about this therapy?

>

> -Where can I find books or dvds specifically on ionic detoxification?

> Where can I go to research more info about this topic?

>

> Again, any information would be helpful and greatly appreaciated.

> Thank you kindly.

>

> Have a great week.

> Ree

>

March 28, 2007

Wow!

Thanks Sharon for the enlightning information!

Ree

, <energy_now

wrote:

>

> Hi Ree,

>

> I have the Aqua Chi model and have seen very good results with it.

My

> friend had one and out of all the different therapies she did to get

> rid of her fibromyalgia and CF after a severe accident that also

left

> her with some brain damage she credited the footbath as helping the

> most. She literally spent five years trying every therapy and

> supplement she heard might work. I tried a footbath at her place

and

> that evening I was breathing much clearer. I wasn't even aware

that I

> had a breathing problem!

>

> I ordered one myself and after about 5 sessions, a patch of fungal

> skin on my leg that didn't respond to anything simply vanished. My

> Mom's fibromyalgia went away after about 25 treatments. We haven't

had

> results with migraines though; liquid zeolite worked for that,

> indicating to me that the brain isn't cleansed with the footbath.

>

> The guy who repairs and I think manufactures the Aqua Chi in the US

> says they have done studies with this in China. Many illnesses

caught

> in the early stages can be reversed. He will be the first to tell

you

> that it is not a cure for anything. It's really the charging of the

> cells with energy that makes this so unique. When the cells

function

> at a higher level, they will detoxify.

>

> Interestingly, someone at another group posted that she was at a

> health fair with her naturopath and they each did a session in the

> Aqua Chi. Her naturopath had WORMS! They came out in the bath

water.

> I have never seen this and it's only the second time I've even

heard

> of it happening. Her water on the other hand was full of sludge but

> not wormy.

>

> I've noticed that when people do a detox program, the water is

> dirtier. My friend noticed that when her clients all started taking

> Reishi mushroom that their water was like sludge so it will enhance

> upon any other detox program. People with fibro, arthritis, etc tend

> to have much slimier and larger bubbles indicating that the lymph is

> being cleansed and mucous is being removed. A healthy person

doesn't

> have this.

>

> I recommend a minimum of three every other day if possible. Some

> people will not experience the full benefits the first time. My

> husband who used to be a lathe operator (making metal pieces for

> diamond bits). He'd come home from work and this metallic dust

would

> be all over his clothes. 7 years later after not working there, he

> started with the footbaths. His first one there was practically

> nothing, just the typical orangey/browny stuff that will be formed

> with or without feet. The second one was pitch black, oily and

reeked

> of the exact same smell that used to be on his clothes.

>

> Smokers and ex-smokers will have brown glue around their ankles. An

> ex-smoker will have this only once or twice. A current smoker will

> have this every time.

>

> As you can see the article that was posted about these being a scam

is

> an outright lie. You will find articles in this style written

online

> for just about every product that works. They are almost like

carbon

> copies with just the names and products changed. When these people

> are corrected, they never remove what they've said and they never

> publish an apology. Thankfully at least the Quackbuster guy is now

> being " busted " himself. These people should just get a life instead

> of interfering in other peoples' lives.

>

> You don't need any special training for this. So long as the person

> isn't pregnant, doesn't have epilepsy or have electronic implants,

> they can do the footbaths. The company also says blood thinners and

> prescription meds to be on the safe side but I have had not adverse

> effects with anyone on prescriptions at all. I do a full wellness

> consultation for clients as part of the deal. Many practitioners

just

> hook them up and leave them to relax for the half hour or 40

minutes.

>

> If you want to contact me off group, I can pass on some info

regarding

> where I bought mine (and wouldn't again!) and where I'd recommend to

> get one now (I buy my parts from there). You can see my waiver, a

few

> photos, etc.

>

> Sharon

>

> , " reeinmaryland "

> <reeamor@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Everyone...

> >

> > I am new to this site and I have a question about

the

> > AQUA CHI or any IONIC FOOT DETOX MACHINE that is supposed to help

> > remove toxins from the body through the feet.

> >

> > I've heard a lot of great things about the ionic foot detox

machine,

> > but I have not been able to find much information about this

> > alternative therapy device on the interent. I've visted a few

> > company websites that make the ionic detox machines (for example,

Q2

> > and AQUA CHI), but neither company has responded to my questions.

> >

> > I have several questions listed below. Any information would be

very

> > helpful to me and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

> >

> > Some of the questions I have are:

> >

> > -Who was the " first " to invent the foot detox machine or what is

the

> > history of this machine?

> >

> > -What qualifications does one need to have, if they want to start

a

> > business to provide only foot detox treatments?

> >

> > -If a person were to start a business just giving these

therapeutic

> > treatments, where would one go for " formal " or " certified "

training?

> >

> > -Are there any other groups or websites that help educate the

public

> > about this therapy?

> >

> > -Where can I find books or dvds specifically on ionic

detoxification?

> > Where can I go to research more info about this topic?

> >

> > Again, any information would be helpful and greatly appreaciated.

> > Thank you kindly.

> >

> > Have a great week.

> > Ree

> >

>

April 2, 2007

Scam, period. Complete nonsense.

Analyzing the text on the wbsite you linked to:

The use of controlled, low-frequency, direct electrical currents in the

treatment of a variety of diseases and injuries are well-established and widely

understood.

Standard procedure, refer to some known and established knowledge, although

" lowfrequency, direct " is nonsense; either it is direct or not.

In terms of bio-electricity, the cells of a healthy human organism have a

negative potential of between 70 and 90 millivolts. Within this range of

potential, nutritional absorption and the discharge of toxic waste are

efficient.

More established knowledge, but the text is beginning to show bias towards the

scam ( " toxic waste " ). They are trying to build up an air of credibility.

The negative potential of a stressed or injured cell, on the other hand, can

measure as little as 10-20 millivolts, and in this situation both nutritional

absorption and the discharge of toxic wastes are poor.

Actually, such a cell is more or less dead.

Such a condition can occur suddenly, as a result of an accident,

Accident, disease, or acute poisoning :eek:

or can develop more slowly as a result, for example, of the progressive build-up

of positive ions due to the effects of modern diets, stressed life-styles and

the impact of a toxic environment.

BZZZZT! First lie: Only serious trauma can disturb cells so profoundly.

If the energy balance of the body is disturbed in this way it is necessary to

detect and correct it.

BZZZZZT! If the energy balance of the entire body (instead of just a number of

cells) is so disturbed, you'll know: The person will be dead.

Those who work within the bounds of preventive and complementary therapies will

apply natural remedies such as proper nutrition, exercise and detoxification.

:rolleyes: Ain't gonna do much good to a dead person!

The Aqua Detox Treatment The Aqua Detox treatment is normally given through the

feet, by placing them in water in which the array will be activated.

BZZZT! BZZZT! BZZZT! Now suddenly enter the ADT box. Here is the required leap

of faith: They have told you a few established facts, now they want you to

belive that their product has anything to do with that. Mind you, they do not

say so directly, just hoping for you to make that assumption.

The feet have an enormous number of pores - in the order of 2000 in each foot -

and thus offer a point of application which is both efficient and convenient.

Actually the number is probably more like 200.000, like any other area of skin

of similar size.

The apparatus can just as well be placed in a bath for the immersion of most of

the body. As soon as the apparatus is switched on, gas bubbles form around the

electrodes indicating that an electrolytic reaction is taking place. (This will

happen without any part of the body being in contact with the water; liberated

gases will clearly be seen).

Yah, thats what happens whenever you pass a current through water. The gasses

are oxygen and hydrogen.

The water in the foot bath (or bath) becomes an extension of the water in the

body, from which it is separated by nothing more substantial than a thin

membrane - the skin.

BZZZT! That membrane is (luckily for us) capable of separating our body liquids

quite effeciently from the environment, even when in water. Otherwise taking a

both would be mortally dangerous. However, the electrical current they pass

through the water might give you a nasty chock :eek:

Aqua Detox in Action

Before

Whilst immersing your feet in the AQUA DETOX apparatus something special

happens.

When the apparatus is turned on and the array (Illustrated right) is immersed in

the water, the unit creates the electrolytic flow (a flow of electrons)

Actually, it is a flow of salt ions. Why this is important will be clear soon.

which imparts to the water a bio-energetic field which corresponds to that of

the person using the apparatus.

BZZZZZZZ! There is no known phenomenon called a bio-energetic field.

This allows a gentle Bio-Energetic Resonance to travel through the body. The

body now starts to re-balance. Bio-Energetic stimulation has a positive effect

on the microcirculation of the body.

BZZZZZ! BZZZZZT! And, of course, no such thing as " Bio-Energetic Resonance " .

Note the versals, a sure kook sign. Obviously the two other statements are also

completely unfounded.

After

The water is now filled with iron-cloride. This comes from the electrolytic

interaction between the sodium cloride (salt) that was put int othe water and

the iron in the electrodes. You can easily repeat this process: Dissolve a

spoonful of salt in a glass of water. Connect the poles of a 9v battery to two

large nails and place them in the water (they must not touch). First you see the

" gas bubbles " , then after a while the water turns brown with iron-cloride.

Iron-cloride is mildly poisonous and aggressive against many metals.

If the microcirculation is good, the body is more likely to be healthy. When

there is an imbalance, there is more likely to be a dysfunction. As the body

re-balances its Bio-Energetic Field it plays an important part in regulating

both supply of Oxygen and nutrients to the tissues and the proper excretion of

waste products (toxins) out of the body. The body is therefore more likely to be

healthy, allowing the body to restore its natural healing energy levels.

BZZZZ! A rehash of medieval belief in health being connected to balance of body

fluids. We have come a bit further since then. (well, some of us, that is

:rolleyes: )

The pictures below are of photographs taken using the Gas Discharge

Visualisation (GDV) camera, also known as the Kirlian camera, which is able to

identify the body's bio-energetic field.

They show the disruption and un-balanced energy profile of a person before an

AQUA Detox treatment and the improved profile following treatment.

Those are evidently drawings. One woowooo belief trying to seek confirmation

from another woowooo belief.

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reeinmaryland <reeamor wrote:

Wow!

Thanks Sharon for the enlightning information!

Ree

, <energy_now

wrote:

>

> Hi Ree,

>

> I have the Aqua Chi model and have seen very good results with it.

My

> friend had one and out of all the different therapies she did to get

> rid of her fibromyalgia and CF after a severe accident that also

left

> her with some brain damage she credited the footbath as helping the

> most. She literally spent five years trying every therapy and

> supplement she heard might work. I tried a footbath at her place

and

> that evening I was breathing much clearer. I wasn't even aware

that I

> had a breathing problem!

>

> I ordered one myself and after about 5 sessions, a patch of fungal

> skin on my leg that didn't respond to anything simply vanished. My

> Mom's fibromyalgia went away after about 25 treatments. We haven't

had

> results with migraines though; liquid zeolite worked for that,

> indicating to me that the brain isn't cleansed with the footbath.

>

> The guy who repairs and I think manufactures the Aqua Chi in the US

> says they have done studies with this in China. Many illnesses

caught

> in the early stages can be reversed. He will be the first to tell

you

> that it is not a cure for anything. It's really the charging of the

> cells with energy that makes this so unique. When the cells

function

> at a higher level, they will detoxify.

>

> Interestingly, someone at another group posted that she was at a

> health fair with her naturopath and they each did a session in the

> Aqua Chi. Her naturopath had WORMS! They came out in the bath

water.

> I have never seen this and it's only the second time I've even

heard

> of it happening. Her water on the other hand was full of sludge but

> not wormy.

>

> I've noticed that when people do a detox program, the water is

> dirtier. My friend noticed that when her clients all started taking

> Reishi mushroom that their water was like sludge so it will enhance

> upon any other detox program. People with fibro, arthritis, etc tend

> to have much slimier and larger bubbles indicating that the lymph is

> being cleansed and mucous is being removed. A healthy person

doesn't

> have this.

>

> I recommend a minimum of three every other day if possible. Some

> people will not experience the full benefits the first time. My

> husband who used to be a lathe operator (making metal pieces for

> diamond bits). He'd come home from work and this metallic dust

would

> be all over his clothes. 7 years later after not working there, he

> started with the footbaths. His first one there was practically

> nothing, just the typical orangey/browny stuff that will be formed

> with or without feet. The second one was pitch black, oily and

reeked

> of the exact same smell that used to be on his clothes.

>

> Smokers and ex-smokers will have brown glue around their ankles. An

> ex-smoker will have this only once or twice. A current smoker will

> have this every time.

>

> As you can see the article that was posted about these being a scam

is

> an outright lie. You will find articles in this style written

online

> for just about every product that works. They are almost like

carbon

> copies with just the names and products changed. When these people

> are corrected, they never remove what they've said and they never

> publish an apology. Thankfully at least the Quackbuster guy is now

> being " busted " himself. These people should just get a life instead

> of interfering in other peoples' lives.

>

> You don't need any special training for this. So long as the person

> isn't pregnant, doesn't have epilepsy or have electronic implants,

> they can do the footbaths. The company also says blood thinners and

> prescription meds to be on the safe side but I have had not adverse

> effects with anyone on prescriptions at all. I do a full wellness

> consultation for clients as part of the deal. Many practitioners

just

> hook them up and leave them to relax for the half hour or 40

minutes.

>

> If you want to contact me off group, I can pass on some info

regarding

> where I bought mine (and wouldn't again!) and where I'd recommend to

> get one now (I buy my parts from there). You can see my waiver, a

few

> photos, etc.

>

> Sharon

>

> , " reeinmaryland "

> <reeamor@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Everyone...

> >

> > I am new to this site and I have a question about

the

> > AQUA CHI or any IONIC FOOT DETOX MACHINE that is supposed to help

> > remove toxins from the body through the feet.

> >

> > I've heard a lot of great things about the ionic foot detox

machine,

> > but I have not been able to find much information about this

> > alternative therapy device on the interent. I've visted a few

> > company websites that make the ionic detox machines (for example,

Q2

> > and AQUA CHI), but neither company has responded to my questions.

> >

> > I have several questions listed below. Any information would be

very

> > helpful to me and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

> >

> > Some of the questions I have are:

> >

> > -Who was the " first " to invent the foot detox machine or what is

the

> > history of this machine?

> >

> > -What qualifications does one need to have, if they want to start

a

> > business to provide only foot detox treatments?

> >

> > -If a person were to start a business just giving these

therapeutic

> > treatments, where would one go for " formal " or " certified "

training?

> >

> > -Are there any other groups or websites that help educate the

public

> > about this therapy?

> >

> > -Where can I find books or dvds specifically on ionic

detoxification?

> > Where can I go to research more info about this topic?

> >

> > Again, any information would be helpful and greatly appreaciated.

> > Thank you kindly.

> >

> > Have a great week.

> > Ree

> >

>

David DeDominicis, LMT

248 East Southwest

Parkway

Lewisville, Tx. healing_hands75067

ph 972-782-2746

cell 469-734-9512

Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and

always stay connected to friends.

April 2, 2007

Hmmm, I have heard only good things about these so far. Good to hear

another point of view though.

Happy

, David DeDominicis

<healing_hands75067 wrote:

>

> Scam, period. Complete nonsense.

>

> Analyzing the text on the wbsite you linked to:

> The use of controlled, low-frequency, direct electrical currents in

the treatment of a variety of diseases and injuries are well-

established and widely understood.

>

> Standard procedure, refer to some known and established knowledge,

although " lowfrequency, direct " is nonsense; either it is direct or

not.

>

> In terms of bio-electricity, the cells of a healthy human organism

have a negative potential of between 70 and 90 millivolts. Within

this range of potential, nutritional absorption and the discharge of

toxic waste are efficient.

>

> More established knowledge, but the text is beginning to show bias

towards the scam ( " toxic waste " ). They are trying to build up an air

of credibility.

>

> The negative potential of a stressed or injured cell, on the other

hand, can measure as little as 10-20 millivolts, and in this

situation both nutritional absorption and the discharge of toxic

wastes are poor.

>

> Actually, such a cell is more or less dead.

>

> Such a condition can occur suddenly, as a result of an accident,

>

> Accident, disease, or acute poisoning :eek:

>

> or can develop more slowly as a result, for example, of the

progressive build-up of positive ions due to the effects of modern

diets, stressed life-styles and the impact of a toxic environment.

>

> BZZZZT! First lie: Only serious trauma can disturb cells so

profoundly.

>

> If the energy balance of the body is disturbed in this way it is

necessary to detect and correct it.

>

> BZZZZZT! If the energy balance of the entire body (instead of just

a number of cells) is so disturbed, you'll know: The person will be

dead.

>

> Those who work within the bounds of preventive and complementary

therapies will apply natural remedies such as proper nutrition,

exercise and detoxification.

>

> :rolleyes: Ain't gonna do much good to a dead person!

>

> The Aqua Detox Treatment The Aqua Detox treatment is normally given

through the feet, by placing them in water in which the array will be

activated.

>

> BZZZT! BZZZT! BZZZT! Now suddenly enter the ADT box. Here is the

required leap of faith: They have told you a few established facts,

now they want you to belive that their product has anything to do

with that. Mind you, they do not say so directly, just hoping for you

to make that assumption.

>

> The feet have an enormous number of pores - in the order of 2000 in

each foot - and thus offer a point of application which is both

efficient and convenient.

>

> Actually the number is probably more like 200.000, like any other

area of skin of similar size.

>

> The apparatus can just as well be placed in a bath for the

immersion of most of the body. As soon as the apparatus is switched

on, gas bubbles form around the electrodes indicating that an

electrolytic reaction is taking place. (This will happen without any

part of the body being in contact with the water; liberated gases

will clearly be seen).

>

> Yah, thats what happens whenever you pass a current through water.

The gasses are oxygen and hydrogen.

>

> The water in the foot bath (or bath) becomes an extension of the

water in the body, from which it is separated by nothing more

substantial than a thin membrane - the skin.

>

> BZZZT! That membrane is (luckily for us) capable of separating our

body liquids quite effeciently from the environment, even when in

water. Otherwise taking a both would be mortally dangerous. However,

the electrical current they pass through the water might give you a

nasty chock :eek:

>

> Aqua Detox in Action

>

> Before

>

> Whilst immersing your feet in the AQUA DETOX apparatus something

special happens.

> When the apparatus is turned on and the array (Illustrated right)

is immersed in the water, the unit creates the electrolytic flow (a

flow of electrons)

>

> Actually, it is a flow of salt ions. Why this is important will be

clear soon.

>

> which imparts to the water a bio-energetic field which corresponds

to that of the person using the apparatus.

>

> BZZZZZZZ! There is no known phenomenon called a bio-energetic

field.

>

> This allows a gentle Bio-Energetic Resonance to travel through the

body. The body now starts to re-balance. Bio-Energetic stimulation

has a positive effect on the microcirculation of the body.

>

> BZZZZZ! BZZZZZT! And, of course, no such thing as " Bio-Energetic

Resonance " . Note the versals, a sure kook sign. Obviously the two

other statements are also completely unfounded.

>

> After

>

> The water is now filled with iron-cloride. This comes from the

electrolytic interaction between the sodium cloride (salt) that was

put int othe water and the iron in the electrodes. You can easily

repeat this process: Dissolve a spoonful of salt in a glass of water.

Connect the poles of a 9v battery to two large nails and place them

in the water (they must not touch). First you see the " gas bubbles " ,

then after a while the water turns brown with iron-cloride. Iron-

cloride is mildly poisonous and aggressive against many metals.

>

> If the microcirculation is good, the body is more likely to be

healthy. When there is an imbalance, there is more likely to be a

dysfunction. As the body re-balances its Bio-Energetic Field it plays

an important part in regulating both supply of Oxygen and nutrients

to the tissues and the proper excretion of waste products (toxins)

out of the body. The body is therefore more likely to be healthy,

allowing the body to restore its natural healing energy levels.

>

> BZZZZ! A rehash of medieval belief in health being connected to

balance of body fluids. We have come a bit further since then. (well,

some of us, that is :rolleyes: )

>

> The pictures below are of photographs taken using the Gas Discharge

Visualisation (GDV) camera, also known as the Kirlian camera, which

is able to identify the body's bio-energetic field.

> They show the disruption and un-balanced energy profile of a person

before an AQUA Detox treatment and the improved profile following

treatment.

>

> Those are evidently drawings. One woowooo belief trying to seek

confirmation from another woowooo belief.

>

> Find out More If you want to know more about Aqua Detox, you can

> Download a more detailed Brochure (PDF file 0.7Mb)

> Contact us

> Place an order

>

> No thanx!

>

> reeinmaryland <reeamor wrote:

>

> Wow!

> Thanks Sharon for the enlightning information!

> Ree

>

> , <energy_now@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Ree,

> >

> > I have the Aqua Chi model and have seen very good results with

it.

> My

> > friend had one and out of all the different therapies she did to

get

> > rid of her fibromyalgia and CF after a severe accident that also

> left

> > her with some brain damage she credited the footbath as helping

the

> > most. She literally spent five years trying every therapy and

> > supplement she heard might work. I tried a footbath at her place

> and

> > that evening I was breathing much clearer. I wasn't even aware

> that I

> > had a breathing problem!

> >

> > I ordered one myself and after about 5 sessions, a patch of fungal

> > skin on my leg that didn't respond to anything simply vanished. My

> > Mom's fibromyalgia went away after about 25 treatments. We

haven't

> had

> > results with migraines though; liquid zeolite worked for that,

> > indicating to me that the brain isn't cleansed with the footbath.

> >

> > The guy who repairs and I think manufactures the Aqua Chi in the

US

> > says they have done studies with this in China. Many illnesses

> caught

> > in the early stages can be reversed. He will be the first to tell

> you

> > that it is not a cure for anything. It's really the charging of

the

> > cells with energy that makes this so unique. When the cells

> function

> > at a higher level, they will detoxify.

> >

> > Interestingly, someone at another group posted that she was at a

> > health fair with her naturopath and they each did a session in the

> > Aqua Chi. Her naturopath had WORMS! They came out in the bath

> water.

> > I have never seen this and it's only the second time I've even

> heard

> > of it happening. Her water on the other hand was full of sludge

but

> > not wormy.

> >

> > I've noticed that when people do a detox program, the water is

> > dirtier. My friend noticed that when her clients all started

taking

> > Reishi mushroom that their water was like sludge so it will

enhance

> > upon any other detox program. People with fibro, arthritis, etc

tend

> > to have much slimier and larger bubbles indicating that the lymph

is

> > being cleansed and mucous is being removed. A healthy person

> doesn't

> > have this.

> >

> > I recommend a minimum of three every other day if possible. Some

> > people will not experience the full benefits the first time. My

> > husband who used to be a lathe operator (making metal pieces for

> > diamond bits). He'd come home from work and this metallic dust

> would

> > be all over his clothes. 7 years later after not working there, he

> > started with the footbaths. His first one there was practically

> > nothing, just the typical orangey/browny stuff that will be formed

> > with or without feet. The second one was pitch black, oily and

> reeked

> > of the exact same smell that used to be on his clothes.

> >

> > Smokers and ex-smokers will have brown glue around their ankles.

An

> > ex-smoker will have this only once or twice. A current smoker will

> > have this every time.

> >

> > As you can see the article that was posted about these being a

scam

> is

> > an outright lie. You will find articles in this style written

> online

> > for just about every product that works. They are almost like

> carbon

> > copies with just the names and products changed. When these people

> > are corrected, they never remove what they've said and they never

> > publish an apology. Thankfully at least the Quackbuster guy is now

> > being " busted " himself. These people should just get a life

instead

> > of interfering in other peoples' lives.

> >

> > You don't need any special training for this. So long as the

person

> > isn't pregnant, doesn't have epilepsy or have electronic implants,

> > they can do the footbaths. The company also says blood thinners

and

> > prescription meds to be on the safe side but I have had not

adverse

> > effects with anyone on prescriptions at all. I do a full wellness

> > consultation for clients as part of the deal. Many practitioners

> just

> > hook them up and leave them to relax for the half hour or 40

> minutes.

> >

> > If you want to contact me off group, I can pass on some info

> regarding

> > where I bought mine (and wouldn't again!) and where I'd recommend

to

> > get one now (I buy my parts from there). You can see my waiver, a

> few

> > photos, etc.

> >

> > Sharon

> >

> > , " reeinmaryland "

> > <reeamor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Everyone...

> > >

> > > I am new to this site and I have a question about

> the

> > > AQUA CHI or any IONIC FOOT DETOX MACHINE that is supposed to

help

> > > remove toxins from the body through the feet.

> > >

> > > I've heard a lot of great things about the ionic foot detox

> machine,

> > > but I have not been able to find much information about this

> > > alternative therapy device on the interent. I've visted a few

> > > company websites that make the ionic detox machines (for

example,

> Q2

> > > and AQUA CHI), but neither company has responded to my

questions.

> > >

> > > I have several questions listed below. Any information would be

> very

> > > helpful to me and highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

> > >

> > > Some of the questions I have are:

> > >

> > > -Who was the " first " to invent the foot detox machine or what

is

> the

> > > history of this machine?

> > >

> > > -What qualifications does one need to have, if they want to

start

> a

> > > business to provide only foot detox treatments?

> > >

> > > -If a person were to start a business just giving these

> therapeutic

> > > treatments, where would one go for " formal " or " certified "

> training?

> > >

> > > -Are there any other groups or websites that help educate the

> public

> > > about this therapy?

> > >

> > > -Where can I find books or dvds specifically on ionic

> detoxification?

> > > Where can I go to research more info about this topic?

> > >

> > > Again, any information would be helpful and greatly

appreaciated.

> > > Thank you kindly.

> > >

> > > Have a great week.

> > > Ree

> > >

> >

David DeDominicis, LMT

> 248 East Southwest

> Parkway

> Lewisville, Tx. healing_hands75067

> ph 972-782-2746

> cell 469-734-9512

>

> Don't be flakey. Get Mail for Mobile and

> always stay connected to friends.

>

April 2, 2007

This shows the power of the human mind and of suggestion. Yet the nail, salt

water, nine volt battery test that I duplicated has sealed my deal. I am a

natural skeptic as I was with ear candling and I have conclusive proof that it

was not smoke and mirrors. So before I stick my money or feet in this unit I had

to view all research available.

Happy <happylittlemom wrote: Hmmm, I have heard only good

things about these so far. Good to hear