Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 chris wrote; Cholesterol ONLY comes from animal products .. so if ya don't over do the meat and animal fats cholesterol shouldn't be a big problem ..... Since we are animals- we also make our own cholesterol- her are some other tidbits- from " nourishing traditions " by sally fallon (this is pretty amazing ME being an advocate for animal foods- I am a former vegan...but found it was not in fact making me healthy at all...) Today heart disease causes at least 40% of all US deaths....If, as we have been told, heart disease is caused by the consumption of animal fats, one would expect to see an increase in animal fat in diets. Actually the reverse is trueThe proportion of traditional animal fat in diets decreased from 83% to 62%, and the butter consumption dropped from 18 lbs per person a year to 4. During the same period the percantage of dietary vegetable oils has increasedabout 400% (margarine, shortening and refined oils), and the consumption of sugar and processed foods increased about 60%... I would add to this that animals that make the milk and meat are increasingly fed corn and other grains instead of grass, to add nmore bulk, and also things like cottonseed meal and other by products of other industries. " mothers milk contains a higher proportion of cholesterol than almost any other food. It also contains over 50% of its calories as fat, much of it saturated. Both cholesterol and saturated fat are necessary for the growth in babies and children, especially the development of the brain. Yet the american heart assoc is now recommending a lowfat diet for children! Commercial formulas are low in saturated fats and soy formulas are devoid of cholesterol. A recent study linked lowfat diets with failure to thrive in children' (so let your kid eat the stick of butter hes after...at least a little- I call my little guy " krishna " ) " A medical research council survey showed that men eating butter ran half the risk of developing heart disease as those eating margarine " OK....this is really a great book- loads of info on traditional diets and the modern " diet " and tons of great recipes... Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 Thanks Michelle! *Smile* Chris (list mom - loving the ghee thread! I may have to post some yummy Indian food recipes later today!) Sale Sale Sale! Everything On Sale! http://www.alittleolfactory.com Michelle Morton-niyama wrote: > chris wrote; > Cholesterol ONLY comes from animal products .. so if ya don't over do > the meat and animal fats cholesterol shouldn't be a big problem ..... > > Since we are animals- we also make our own cholesterol- > > her are some other tidbits- from " nourishing traditions " by sally fallon > (this is pretty amazing ME being an advocate for animal foods- I am a > former > vegan...but found it was not in fact making me healthy at all...) > > Today heart disease causes at least 40% of all US deaths....If, as we have > been told, heart disease is caused by the consumption of animal fats, one > would expect to see an increase in animal fat in diets. Actually the > reverse > is trueThe proportion of traditional animal fat in diets decreased > from 83% > to 62%, and the butter consumption dropped from 18 lbs per person a > year to > 4. During the same period the percantage of dietary vegetable oils has > increasedabout 400% (margarine, shortening and refined oils), and the > consumption of sugar and processed foods increased about 60%... > > I would add to this that animals that make the milk and meat are > increasingly fed corn and other grains instead of grass, to add nmore > bulk, > and also things like cottonseed meal and other by products of other > industries. > > " mothers milk contains a higher proportion of cholesterol than almost any > other food. It also contains over 50% of its calories as fat, much of it > saturated. Both cholesterol and saturated fat are necessary for the growth > in babies and children, especially the development of the brain. Yet the > american heart assoc is now recommending a lowfat diet for children! > Commercial formulas are low in saturated fats and soy formulas are > devoid of > cholesterol. A recent study linked lowfat diets with failure to thrive in > children' > (so let your kid eat the stick of butter hes after...at least a little- I > call my little guy " krishna " ) > > " A medical research council survey showed that men eating butter ran half > the risk of developing heart disease as those eating margarine " > > > OK....this is really a great book- loads of info on traditional diets and > the modern " diet " and tons of great recipes... > > Michelle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 we do eat coconut- high in lauric acid- good stuff... we eat the oil and the milk... I am off to have some curry in coconut milk for lunch right now in my kitchen!! - James W. French <somatics Monday, January 07, 2002 1:02 PM Cholesterol > Cholesterol some will say we really know all about Cholesterol . I say > we really have yet to begin... > for reasons like this..a friend of mine.. Bob Pelikan,, his real name.. > is an animal... yep and it is his liver that is making the sludge... not > what he eats.. but the processes of his liver are producing much > sludge...Cholesterol.. > > The Manteca business, Lard in Spanish, well the proof is that many old > folks are living long and happy lives using tremendous amounts of lard.. > ((where do I get these weird ideas?..)) Wall Street Journal had this > article about the massive come back of the lard business .. across the > country, particularly in Los Angeles, but across the nation the lard > eating, specially hispanics are doing fine, low blood pressure, not > always too fat, and low or normal Cholesterol.. > > Butter will do it? not always . not on everyone... and Ghee is almost a > cure.. the fat acids are good...so they are looking ar the fatty acids.. > and are making negative statements about Trans-fatty acids....and so > yes Crisco is a hyper saturated at... so too is Coconut oil and there's > the rub.. ha . some have said coconut oil is bad.. hardens and is > saturated.. the coconut eaters are doing fine... like the lard > eaters... the coconut people are having low Cholesterol generally.. > > to me it could be that like strawberries, and cat hair some people are > allergic to some fats and things related?.. or like Bob since the > body needs some Cholesterol when it has none it will make it.. even make > too much of it... > > kind of sorry to have to add these 2 Cents to fats.. I wish the problems > would get solved.. I have many pounds of spare , usually happy, fat to > get rid of.. Reminds me of the Chinese non fat soap... anyone ever buy > any of that? > > it is a seaweed soap that will dry your skin like no other.. and > according to the label yo will loose fat..??? right... > > so ...ghee.. a little work and the solids fall out of the butter.. the > fact is we are often at odds with nature continually having to do > something to nature to make it acceptable to us?. this is I am sure a > vegan premise and that is " take it as nature delivers it. " . don't heat, > don't kill it, don't fillet it and barbecue it... if its to be eaten it > will come in its own package, like a nut in a shell, or a banana in a > peel.. > well that will leave us some deficient.. we have been cooking for quite > a while..Ghee > later > Jim > > > My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey > http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2002 Report Share Posted January 7, 2002 yep .. hard to figure the fats... yet.. Oh I will definitely have some of the Tom-Ka-kai Soup, a little lime and lemon grass and mushrooms and chicken and secret thai spices... yummmmmmm. jf Michelle Morton-niyama wrote: > > we do eat coconut- high in lauric acid- good stuff... > we eat the oil and the milk... > I am off to have some curry in coconut milk for lunch right now in my > kitchen!! > - > James W. French <somatics > > Monday, January 07, 2002 1:02 PM > Cholesterol > > > Cholesterol some will say we really know all about Cholesterol . I say > > we really have yet to begin... > > for reasons like this..a friend of mine.. Bob Pelikan,, his real name.. > > is an animal... yep and it is his liver that is making the sludge... not > > what he eats.. but the processes of his liver are producing much > > sludge...Cholesterol.. > > > > The Manteca business, Lard in Spanish, well the proof is that many old > > folks are living long and happy lives using tremendous amounts of lard.. > > ((where do I get these weird ideas?..)) Wall Street Journal had this > > article about the massive come back of the lard business .. across the > > country, particularly in Los Angeles, but across the nation the lard > > eating, specially hispanics are doing fine, low blood pressure, not > > always too fat, and low or normal Cholesterol.. > > > > Butter will do it? not always . not on everyone... and Ghee is almost a > > cure.. the fat acids are good...so they are looking ar the fatty acids.. > > and are making negative statements about Trans-fatty acids....and so > > yes Crisco is a hyper saturated at... so too is Coconut oil and there's > > the rub.. ha . some have said coconut oil is bad.. hardens and is > > saturated.. the coconut eaters are doing fine... like the lard > > eaters... the coconut people are having low Cholesterol generally.. > > > > to me it could be that like strawberries, and cat hair some people are > > allergic to some fats and things related?.. or like Bob since the > > body needs some Cholesterol when it has none it will make it.. even make > > too much of it... > > > > kind of sorry to have to add these 2 Cents to fats.. I wish the problems > > would get solved.. I have many pounds of spare , usually happy, fat to > > get rid of.. Reminds me of the Chinese non fat soap... anyone ever buy > > any of that? > > > > it is a seaweed soap that will dry your skin like no other.. and > > according to the label yo will loose fat..??? right... > > > > so ...ghee.. a little work and the solids fall out of the butter.. the > > fact is we are often at odds with nature continually having to do > > something to nature to make it acceptable to us?. this is I am sure a > > vegan premise and that is " take it as nature delivers it. " . don't heat, > > don't kill it, don't fillet it and barbecue it... if its to be eaten it > > will come in its own package, like a nut in a shell, or a banana in a > > peel.. > > well that will leave us some deficient.. we have been cooking for quite > > a while..Ghee > > later > > Jim > > > > > > My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey > > http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 hi all, my doctor told me that my cholesterol level is very high.and my trigliserid ( not so sure how to write it in english) is 4 times than the normal level. could you please help me what alternatives medicine i can have to reduce the level of my cholesterol and trigliserid? could you please reply to my personal email instead of to the mailing list? thank you thank you soooo much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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